Future Funk—post-vaporwave japanese-oriented filter-disco for a new generation

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A friend put me onto this stuff on twitter last fall, i never kept up w/ the vaporwave thread much but I kind of love the idea of this.

It's been mentioned a few times in the vaporwave thread on noise board:
vaporwave and deriative products

But only really as a tag that pops up or a certain sub-style of vaporwave.

Anyway here's what he said:

"Folks were asking what the youngins listen to in Japan, so I asked 16-30 year olds for suggestions while I was there & finally now listening. A lot of it is a genre they call "Future Funk" which is essentially what the French did with Disco & are putting house beats on Funk samples. Instead of sampling Bony M, they're sampling bands like Tavares & tracks with synth melodies and bass guitar driven tunes. It's pretty dope. first thing I said was this is French Filter with 80's groove music. Funny thing is, Yung Bae & some of these producers..are actually white teenagers here in the states. They're collaborating with Japanese producers/DJs and spreading the wealth"

A few of the examples he sent me:

"My fav is when they sample older Japanese groove. Can't find the future funk version but this went off":

"Found it. Teenagers were going crazy for this":

seemed of ilx interest & a possible space for growth, or maybe it just stays a kind of weird nerd genre that prioritizes effusive formula over evolving, idk.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 21:50 (four months ago) Permalink

oh cool more 80s crap

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 21:52 (four months ago) Permalink

shakey this is the board "i love music."

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 21:53 (four months ago) Permalink

lol just bein curmodgeonly. first listen this stuff isn't so bad, kinda a Dam Funk vibe, so as far as 80s sounds go this is more my speed but not something I'm gonna get all hyper-excited about, there's so much that scratches this itch already

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 21:56 (four months ago) Permalink

lmao "bay city extended" is my very own youtube upload

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 21:58 (four months ago) Permalink

oh cool more 80s crap

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, January 24, 2017 4:52 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:00 (four months ago) Permalink

the pop up! delicious album was my fav in this genre last year
saint pepsi - hit vibes is my fav of all time

nxd, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:01 (four months ago) Permalink

really like dan masons stuff too

nxd, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:02 (four months ago) Permalink

anyway i started listening to this stuff from the opposite direction, getting obsessed with citypop and its more boogie- and freestyle-inflected variants and then it turned out to be the sample sources for most of the vaporwave ppl: '80s japanese boogie/r&b/freestyle

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:03 (four months ago) Permalink

saint pepsi - hit vibes is my fav of all time

great record (ryan aka saint pepsi aka skylar spence is a good friend)

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:04 (four months ago) Permalink

:)

nxd, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:11 (four months ago) Permalink

So far this stuff is a biiit retrominded for me but w/ the teenage fanbase i became hopeful that someone might come along & idk turn it up a bit & do something original w/ it.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:29 (four months ago) Permalink

Last one of the four is pretty good, cheesy funky house but chopped and twisted in pleasantly unexpected ways.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:30 (four months ago) Permalink

Has anyone done stuff like this with good non-sampled vocals? I've heard stuff from the Skylar Spence and I like the more song oriented approach, but I find his singing to sound too much like a bad Ben Folds impersonator.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:34 (four months ago) Permalink

This mix is pretty strong:

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:37 (four months ago) Permalink

is Hit Vibes still the gold standard in this genre or are there more I need to check out

cuz I like Hit Vibes a lot, though it just kinda....almost gets there. it's weird and funky but not enough of either

frogbs, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:37 (four months ago) Permalink

So far this stuff is a biiit retrominded for me but w/ the teenage fanbase i became hopeful that someone might come along & idk turn it up a bit & do something original w/ it.

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, January 24, 2017 3:29 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is where i'm at with it too for the most part

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:38 (four months ago) Permalink

there were 2 really cool comps last year by Aesthetics Please and AKANEINTOKIO, sorry I'm on my phone so cant link, but thought they were both really fun

nxd, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 22:42 (four months ago) Permalink

Super into this one:


Aritus — Summer With You

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 23:24 (four months ago) Permalink

is the new chaki ep future funk?

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 23:37 (four months ago) Permalink

digging a lil deeper there are def a few artists who play around more w/ the samples rather than just speeding up loops

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 01:17 (three months ago) Permalink

aww this one's sweet

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 01:53 (three months ago) Permalink

cheers for these links D-40 some real good stuff here

links to the albums i mentioned yesterday
Dan Mason - Miami Virtual 2.0
https://dmtrec.bandcamp.com/album/miami-virtual-20

Pop Up! - Delicious
https://goddamnpopup.bandcamp.com/album/delicious

Aesthetics Please - Righteous Groove
http://music.businesscasual.biz/album/righteous-groove

A K A N E I N T O K I O - ALL TOGETHER VOL. 1 ゴールドエディション
https://akaneintokio.bandcamp.com/album/all-together-vol-1

have only delved into whole albums rather than stand alone youtube numbers but these are really great cheers

nxd, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 09:22 (three months ago) Permalink

this thread has already ruined my youtube recommendations

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 14:49 (three months ago) Permalink

some of this stuff is pleasant enough but i'd really just prefer to listen to whatever city pop etc. they're mining for samples. i do hope something interesting comes out of it, looking forward to whatever skylar spence/saint pepsi is currently working on

ufo, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 14:52 (three months ago) Permalink

i'll have to remember this next time someone posts about rock music being creatively moribund and obsessed w/stale retro gestures

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 15:49 (three months ago) Permalink

:D

nxd, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 15:51 (three months ago) Permalink

couple from last year:

Future Society Singles comp: https://futuresocietycollective.bandcamp.com/album/single-series-volume-i
pretty consistent comp of tracks from this internet future funk label.

悲しい ANDROID - APARTMENT¶ https://android-apartment.bandcamp.com/album/with-me-without-you
Seems to come from filter disco end of spectrum, but well done

As a "genre", seems destined to fizzle out, but as long as people are nostalgic for the 80s, this kind of thing can never completely go away

Dominique, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 15:57 (three months ago) Permalink

the 4chan/reddit teens obsessed with this stuff have stuck much around longer than i expected already

ufo, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 16:23 (three months ago) Permalink

Search: supersex 420

a but (brimstead), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 16:52 (three months ago) Permalink

destroy: weak haters itt

a but (brimstead), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 16:53 (three months ago) Permalink

Also, Dan Mason has a good new one
https://danmason.bandcamp.com/album/lovers

Dominique, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 17:06 (three months ago) Permalink

awesome, thanks!

nxd, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 17:06 (three months ago) Permalink

i'll have to remember this next time someone posts about rock music being creatively moribund and obsessed w/stale retro gestures

― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:49 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ehh it depends this stuff has a contemporary aspect & all it takes is one kid raised on it who thinks to take it a new way & it's suddenly no longer so retro

i mean....french touch / daft punk were already ripping off chicago house that sampled disco etc.

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:37 (three months ago) Permalink

As a "genre", seems destined to fizzle out, but as long as people are nostalgic for the 80s, this kind of thing can never completely go away

― Dominique, Wednesday, January 25, 2017 9:57 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the 4chan/reddit teens obsessed with this stuff have stuck much around longer than i expected already

― ufo, Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:23 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i was halfway like, either i'm just super late to it bc i opted out of the idea of vaporwave and this is just another tributary of mining the past, or im early on it becoming something new & having renewed steam. It does seem like its still generating attention online & the view counts are trending upward on a lot of the videos

either way, its more enjoyable to me than vaporwave & seems built for short attention span internet listening

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:53 (three months ago) Permalink

obv i this is a minority viewpoint but 10-15 years on i find french touch / daft punk an increasingly embarrassing proposition and the existence of "future funk" just cements that feeling

the late great, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 19:22 (three months ago) Permalink

but whatever maybe the music is the same as it has always been and i am just 10-15 years older ... i'm too old for anything but diet soda so no surprise i guess that i'm too old for sugar rush music

the late great, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 19:24 (three months ago) Permalink

im about ready for a cheaper cheesier version personally.... but is it already dead? idk

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 26 January 2017 05:53 (three months ago) Permalink

I really really love "Koi"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 28 January 2017 00:06 (three months ago) Permalink

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 2 February 2017 09:53 (three months ago) Permalink

Make Believe Melodies is an excellent blog for those with an interest in Japanese pop & electronic outside of the idol system.

http://makebelievemelodies.com

MaresNest, Thursday, 2 February 2017 16:07 (three months ago) Permalink

like them links up top, keep em coming
a lot of it reminds me of the latter half of daft punks discovery

nxd, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 10:27 (three months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

I like this guy Abelard

what_have_you, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 20:02 (two months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

no real updates here, the artzie channel still churns out videos that regularly settle in the 50k-100k range on plays, and the biggest future funk song has surpassed 3 million views:

kind of curious if anything is gonna happen w/ this or its just gonna die out or its gonna go on forever unchanged

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 15 May 2017 21:22 (one week ago) Permalink

there's been some nice releases this year
i posted it on the vw page but not here sorry but my fav of which is probably this
https://desired.bandcamp.com/album/the-sweetest-dream

nxd, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 08:46 (one week ago) Permalink

future funk died when they started adding shit vocals to everything

clouds, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:31 (five days ago) Permalink

but it was a ripoff of french touch to begin with so

clouds, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:32 (five days ago) Permalink

French touch was a ripoff of Chicago house to begin with so

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 19 May 2017 18:35 (five days ago) Permalink

have you heard any??

clouds, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:50 (two days ago) Permalink

yes

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 22 May 2017 20:52 (two days ago) Permalink

french touch was a ripoff of chicago house

this is not correct

the late great, Monday, 22 May 2017 21:47 (two days ago) Permalink

[thinker emoji] how not

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 22 May 2017 21:52 (two days ago) Permalink

ripoff is much too strong of a word, i think. early french touch music has a warmth and pronounced downtempo / lounge influence that chicago house doesn't. early 90s chicago filter house has a jacking trackiness to the drums that french touch doesn't. they just sound different, and listening to something like daft punk's 95 essential mix you wouldn't confuse one for the other (even though the sounds are sympathetic and compatible and mix well). i will grant that toward the late 90s as the styles evolved they began to converge more and more, and chicago house was obvously a big influence on french touch. but a ripoff, no. not even what i would call an imitation.

this future funk stuff on the other hand ... i'm not sure if i'd even call it french touch influenced so much as daft punk influenced, and specifically "discovery" influenced ... i think lots of stuff on this thread would fit seamlessly on "discovery" and maybe that's the point?

the late great, Monday, 22 May 2017 22:01 (two days ago) Permalink

they are both big genres though so you can find exceptions to the rule ... thinking of the very ruffest french tracks, stuff like bangalter's "what to do". that track in particular i guess i could see a case for it being a ripoff of the chicago track style. but i don't think "what to do" is what people have in mind when they're talking about french touch. i also have a much harder time thinking of chicago tracks that sound like french tracks.

the late great, Monday, 22 May 2017 22:09 (two days ago) Permalink

i meant daft punk 97 essential mix, not 95

the late great, Monday, 22 May 2017 22:12 (two days ago) Permalink

maybe though the extent to which you perceive french touch to be a ripoff of chicago or future funk to be a ripoff of french touch is one of those things that has as mucb to do with the listener as the text

the late great, Monday, 22 May 2017 22:19 (two days ago) Permalink

idk ask any chicago house producer & they dont seem to see that much of a gulf between the styles lol

i also think its a bit reductive to say all this stuff would fit in on discovery ... theres way more use of japanese music & lyrics in this stuff

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 22 May 2017 22:20 (two days ago) Permalink

(much of which was of course rip-offs of american music itself but )

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 22 May 2017 22:20 (two days ago) Permalink

"any" chicago house producer? you've asked them all, i take it?

the late great, Monday, 22 May 2017 22:22 (two days ago) Permalink

sorry, just being snarky

the late great, Monday, 22 May 2017 22:25 (two days ago) Permalink

well, i find it hard to believe anybody could fail to distinguish between a french house track and a chicago house track, but like i said, maybe that has to do more with me than the music itself

and i admit i don't really know future funk well enough to make pronouncements on it ... my knowledge of it is strictly from skimming the tracks on this thread

on a somewhat unrelated note you should check out this comp

http://www.forcedexposure.com/Catalog/va-light-wave-today-tomorrow-cd/EM.1137CD.html

the late great, Monday, 22 May 2017 22:28 (two days ago) Permalink

i think a lot of ppl here are just bitter about daft punk getting all this acclaim & the grammies & all that shit while they're still back in chicago communities playing for locals if they're lucky

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 22 May 2017 22:37 (two days ago) Permalink

Ugggh I hate this music. It's mostly just the choice of name since years back we started a little music forum on a site that shall go unnamed (starts with R, full of haters) that we called Future Funk Airlines. It was mostly meant as a cheeky allusion to Beats In Space etc. So now we have these kids popping in dropping their vaporwave future funk turds on us, idk I'm honestly having a hard time not taking it personally that this otherwise easily forgettable subgenre took our name.

My internet REALLY sucks so it would be a massive effort to dig thru all the rec's here to find anything passable, anyone who generally has good taste in music feel up to highlighting anything in particular for me? Cheers. (By good taste I basically mean whatever Fact/Resident Advisor rates. Yeah that's how I roll.)

viborg, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:49 (yesterday) Permalink

I also had a quick dread today, seeing some 'future funk' crap in another forum, that this would be the next big thing and totally come to dominate popular EDM this year.

viborg, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:51 (yesterday) Permalink

pure sugar rush, i don't care, i love it right now. the cheap/disposable discovery rip offs anyway.

this stuff doesn't sound like it was built for club systems.

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 02:48 (yesterday) Permalink

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 03:15 (yesterday) Permalink

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 03:16 (yesterday) Permalink

(By good taste I basically mean whatever Fact/Resident Advisor rates. Yeah that's how I roll.)

― viborg, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 00:49 (two hours ago) Permalink

lol

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 03:50 (yesterday) Permalink

Ugggh I hate this music. It's mostly just the choice of name since years back we started a little music forum on a site that shall go unnamed (starts with R, full of haters) that we called Future Funk Airlines. It was mostly meant as a cheeky allusion to Beats In Space etc. So now we have these kids popping in dropping their vaporwave future funk turds on us, idk I'm honestly having a hard time not taking it personally that this otherwise easily forgettable subgenre took our name.

lol who cares?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:22 (yesterday) Permalink

Future Funk will not dominate over EDM because it's just a rehash of French House and that wasn't that big in the mainstream to begin with.

Is EDM even making the charts anymore? Last time I checked they were dominated by dancehall pop and tropical house and moomba and trap and reggaeton. No EDM. There's Bruno Mars doing his Chromeo thing... it's funky sort of but not future funky.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:34 (yesterday) Permalink

I thought EDM just meant 'bad electronic music'.

lol who cares?

Jordan S, the guy who's single handedly done more to shit up ILM than any other, weighs in with his valuable contribution to discussion.

viborg, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 05:22 (yesterday) Permalink

it's cool that Parrot Jungle 95 looped my favorite Rene & Angela song

sexualing healing (crüt), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 05:25 (yesterday) Permalink

Who said anything about future funk dominating edm lol it is edm

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 05:57 (yesterday) Permalink

Jordan S, the guy who's single handedly done more to shit up ILM than any other, weighs in with his valuable contribution to discussion.

― viborg, Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:22 AM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah because "i don't like this subgenre because now kids post music i don't like to my subreddit" is really bringing a lot to the table

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 23 May 2017 06:10 (yesterday) Permalink

lol crut otm

clouds, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 14:28 (yesterday) Permalink

i actually hope this dumb subgenre goes more mainstream so that tatsuro yamashita can get some fucking royalties finally

clouds, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 14:37 (yesterday) Permalink

xp it's Ian Pooley undone

insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 14:40 (yesterday) Permalink

it's cool that Parrot Jungle 95 looped my favorite Rene & Angela song

It is cool!!!

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 14:58 (yesterday) Permalink

i actually hope this dumb subgenre goes more mainstream so that tatsuro yamashita can get some fucking royalties finally

― clouds, Tuesday, May 23, 2017 7:37 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:00 (yesterday) Permalink

did rene and angela rip off rod stewart or was it the other way around

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:04 (yesterday) Permalink

hey everybody did you know that discovery is just a bunch of disco samples too wow oh my gosh

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:07 (yesterday) Permalink

Is EDM even making the charts anymore? Last time I checked they were dominated by dancehall pop and tropical house and moomba and trap and reggaeton. No EDM.

The only notable exception I can think of was Calvin Harris's This Is What You Came For from last year.

There's also The Chainsmokers, but they're not really EDM at this point, I think. I actually don't know, because I've avoided listening to anything by them all this time.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:08 (yesterday) Permalink


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