Spoon - Hot Thoughts

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Hot Thoughts is the upcoming ninth studio album by the band Spoon. It will be released on March 17, 2017, through Matador Records and is their first album to be released on the label since their 1996 debut album, Telephono.

1 Hot Thoughts
2 WhisperI’lllistentohearit
3 Do I Have to Talk You Into It
4 First Caress
5 Pink Up
6 Can I Sit Next to You
7 I Ain’t the One
8 Tear It Down
9 Shotgun
10 Us

Bee OK, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:24 (two months ago) Permalink

https://youtu.be/D6KFBFg5q1Y

Bee OK, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:25 (two months ago) Permalink

that is different for them, not sure what i think.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:28 (two months ago) Permalink

don't think i've ever failed to like a spoon album even when i thought i was going to

this track sounds great tho

ciderpress, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:30 (two months ago) Permalink

i suppose he probably has but this makes me wonder if daniel had ever harmonized w/ himself on a record before, the effect is so pronounced

j., Wednesday, 18 January 2017 04:02 (two months ago) Permalink

I like the sounds and the mood of it well enough, but there doesn't seem to be much of an actual song there. Seems like an odd opener for a Spoon record. It took me ages to warm up to They Want My Soul, though.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 08:59 (two months ago) Permalink

I like the sounds and the mood of it well enough, but there doesn't seem to be much of an actual song there.

Sounds like business as usual then.

J/k, but it doesn't sound like a great departure from the less complicated pop of their last album, which is fine with me.

brekekekexit collapse collapse (ledge), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 09:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Ooooh.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 10:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Wasn't sure about that new song on the first listen, three more listens and I like it a lot. Can't wait for the new album, I love this band.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 11:45 (two months ago) Permalink

I love this.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 11:47 (two months ago) Permalink

^^^^

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 14:35 (two months ago) Permalink

I like it but still with the Fridmann.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 15:22 (two months ago) Permalink

I was listening to the title track when I saw this thread. I've never paid much attention to Spoon. This is okay. I could probably get to like it.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 15:53 (two months ago) Permalink

This delivers pretty much exactly what I was expecting from a Spoon song called "Hot Thoughts" and I am not complaining.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:00 (two months ago) Permalink

I like it but still with the Fridmann.

Indeed. Wish they'd go back to producing their records like they did with Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga, which is one of my favourite sounding recordings of the last 20 years.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 16:43 (two months ago) Permalink

I didn't really listen to the last record as a sort of irrational personal protest, because I was tired of bands breaking up or going on hiatus for basically as long as many bands take between albums anyway. But I'm listening now, and it's pretty good, so I'm looking forward to the new one, even if I agree that (Jim)Eno/Britt/McCarthy was a great production team.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 17:25 (two months ago) Permalink

indeed. Wish they'd go back to producing their records like they did with Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga, which is one of my favourite sounding recordings of the last 20 years.

― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:43 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

+1

Wimmels, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 18:29 (two months ago) Permalink

they haven't changed much at all!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 19:22 (two months ago) Permalink

i think the production on kill the moonlight is more interesting tbh

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 19:22 (two months ago) Permalink

i have grown to love this song now. it threw me off guard at first but after three spins i'm into it.

Bee OK, Thursday, 19 January 2017 02:37 (two months ago) Permalink

I didn't really listen to the last record as a sort of irrational personal protest, because I was tired of bands breaking up or going on hiatus for basically as long as many bands take between albums anyway.

They Want My Soul is top tier Spoon, really another classic in their cannon. might be my third favorite of theirs now. realized this when i ran the Spoon poll a bit back. it sneaks up on you and hits you over the head unlike the album before did.

Bee OK, Thursday, 19 January 2017 03:16 (two months ago) Permalink

They Want My Soul has become an inextricable part of my life. The title track, "New York Kicks," "Knock Knock Knock" -- permanent rotation at the student radio station I advise.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 January 2017 03:32 (two months ago) Permalink

i never heard anything about them splitting up or even suggesting it. last album is their best after Girls Can Tell for me.

jamiesummerz, Thursday, 19 January 2017 10:17 (two months ago) Permalink

At one point I think Britt had talked about doing a solo album, but then Divine Fits ended up happening. Also the song that's inextricably part of your life is titled "New York Kiss."

DavidLeeRoth, Thursday, 19 January 2017 12:37 (two months ago) Permalink

You know what's inextricably part of my life? Auto Correct on my phone.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 January 2017 12:37 (two months ago) Permalink

indeed. Wish they'd go back to producing their records like they did with Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga, which is one of my favourite sounding recordings of the last 20 years.

― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:43 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

+1

― Wimmels, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 18:29 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

+2

i don't watch lamestream porn (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 January 2017 13:17 (two months ago) Permalink

this song is great

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 January 2017 14:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Spoon continue to rule. Fucking love the production on this.

yesca, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 06:13 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Tour:

Date Venue Location

Mar 06 The Observatory Santa Ana, CA
Mar 14 The Main (SXSW Residency) Austin, TX
Mar 15 The Main (SXSW Residency) Austin, TX
Mar 16 The Main (SXSW Residency) Austin, TX
Jun 27 Gorilla Manchester, United Kingdom
Jun 28 The Arts School Glasgow, United Kingdom
Jun 30 O2 Forum London, United Kingdom
Jul 07 Mad Cool Festival Madrid, Spain
Jul 14 Forecastle Louisville, KY
Jul 15 Sloss Festival Birmingham, AL
Jul 28 Panorama Festival New York, NY

Bee OK, Thursday, 9 February 2017 03:24 (one month ago) Permalink

i'm going to go to the Santa Ana show and their first date, so excited! will pick up tickets on Friday when they go on sale.

Bee OK, Thursday, 9 February 2017 03:25 (one month ago) Permalink

this is very very good:

na (NA), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:09 (one month ago) Permalink

it's "can i sit next to you"

na (NA), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:09 (one month ago) Permalink

The beginning sounds like "Down on the Corner."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:16 (one month ago) Permalink

am i insane or do both of the new songs released so far have a vague disco influence

na (NA), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:24 (one month ago) Permalink

there's one figure in there that's v. much Lament by the Cure.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:55 (one month ago) Permalink

in Hot Thoughts, that is.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 22:56 (one month ago) Permalink

I haven't heard note one - waiting for the album to come out so I can experience it as a whole. (Which is my M.O. for almost every record these days.)

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 23:14 (one month ago) Permalink

I don't know Lament but totally re: Cure, it really sticks out

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 23:44 (one month ago) Permalink

holy fuck is that good. i'm loving this direction, i really suites them.

Bee OK, Thursday, 23 February 2017 03:00 (one month ago) Permalink

or it...

Bee OK, Thursday, 23 February 2017 03:02 (one month ago) Permalink

So far their last album had more range and hooks but I'm still feeling this. Feels like it expands in a natural way from Spoon's emphasis on rigid grooves. Let's hear a whole record of "I Turn My Camera On"!

yesca, Saturday, 25 February 2017 15:20 (one month ago) Permalink

Bee OK, Saturday, 4 March 2017 06:37 (three weeks ago) Permalink

let's try this again:

Bee OK, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

on my way, so excited!

Bee OK, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"can i sit next to you" is fuckin great. they're still so great at deploying sound

ciderpress, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

1. Do I Have to Talk You Into It
2. Hot Thoughts
3. Inside Out
4. I Turn My Camera On
5. The Beast and Dragon, Adored
6. I Saw the Light
7. Don't You Evah
8. The Underdog
9. Black Like Me
10. Small Stakes
11. My Mathematical Mind
12. Can I Sit Next To You?
13. Do You
14. Got Nuffin
15. Rent I Pay

Encore:

16. I Ain't the One
17. Rainy Taxi

Bee OK, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 03:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Bee OK, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 03:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

nice setlist!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 03:12 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Daniel has become expert at that kind of ugly strummed noise

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 03:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the concert was unbelievable fun. my friend and i kept saying just when you think this can't get any better then they play a song that was even more epic then the one before. all the new songs are 10/10, well maybe not the new encore song as it was a bit mellow. the first song of the night was brand new to everyone there and it didn't disappoint. in fact i figured it would be the last song on the new album, turns out it will be the third song. "Rainy Taxi" was such a great way to end the night, so euphoric.

go if they come to town, a band at the top of their game.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 03:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Have you just been downloading / streaming?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 14:44 (five days ago) Permalink

series of sneaks is their shortest album (it's also my favorite). haven't listened to them in a long time, but i remember the back halves of both girls can tell and kill the moonlight as slogs.

mizzell, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 14:52 (five days ago) Permalink

also telephono is their only album i have on lp and side a is great and side b is totally skippable.

mizzell, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 14:53 (five days ago) Permalink

kill the moonlight back half is a grower iirc. the last track is kind of perfect

ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 14:55 (five days ago) Permalink

gimme fiction is the one where i skip the back half, the first 4 tracks are fantastic and then it just kinda coasts other than 'i summon you'

ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:00 (five days ago) Permalink

GF is my favorite, in no small part thanks to "They Never Get You," which could go on forever.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:01 (five days ago) Permalink

so are we saying that general rule of thumb is that Spoon albums are generally front-loaded? Is there an album of theirs where side B wins? Obviously Gavin upthread says he likes side B of Hot Thoughts better, but imo the two weakest tracks on Hot Thoughts (and the only weak tracks on the album afaic) are the last two

Wimmels, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:07 (five days ago) Permalink

Just looking over the discography and whoa I think we're into something here. I can't really even remember what a lot of these side 2 songs sound like. Definitely true of Transference. Even my favorite (Gax5), in retrospect, sorta sputters out toward the very end

Wimmels, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:12 (five days ago) Permalink

not sure if i like the latter half better, but I find Transference and TWMS to be pretty even, front and back.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:18 (five days ago) Permalink

i think Gax5 and transference are even & hot thoughts i prefer the back half

ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:27 (five days ago) Permalink

Two of their best songs are the last two on Gax5. A Series of Sneaks and Transference are solid all the way through.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:40 (five days ago) Permalink

transference has "out go the lights" -> "got nuffin" toward the end which are A+

ciderpress, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:56 (five days ago) Permalink

Yeah, this theory is nonsense.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 16:34 (five days ago) Permalink

but the back half of Gimme Fiction (after "I Summon You") can be hard to sit through

i remember the back halves of both girls can tell and kill the moonlight as slogs

also telephono is their only album i have on lp and side a is great and side b is totally skippable.

kill the moonlight back half is a grower iirc

gimme fiction is the one where i skip the back half, the first 4 tracks are fantastic and then it just kinda coasts other than 'i summon you'

some opinions suggest otherwise

Wimmels, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 17:27 (five days ago) Permalink

the b-side of ga ga is killer imo

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 17:30 (five days ago) Permalink

Yeah man, The Underdog and Finer Feelings alone cement it as excellent, it it finishes with Black Like Me.

Likewise Kill The Moonlight has Don't Let It Get You Down, Back to The Life AND Vittorio E. all of which are faultless.

Second half of Gimme Fiction is all about the minimal, repetitive grooves.

What they often seem to do is load the front half with really quick, catchy pop songs, and then stretch out a bit on the second half, slow down, explore a bit more in terms of tone and mood.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 19:23 (five days ago) Permalink

This is a *really* good record, isn't it? Love the less immediate stuff like WhisperI'lllistentohearit and Pink Up. I think this is my favourite Spoon since Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga.

Only thing it lacks for me is a 'traditional' Spoon album closer. Most of their records end on a track that makes me want to immediately play the whole thing over again, whereas Us isn't quite doing it for me yet.

Spoon records are so good for driving to ...

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 19:36 (five days ago) Permalink

'back to the life' has some of my favorite production touches of anything they've done

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 19:41 (five days ago) Permalink

I think this is my favourite Spoon since Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga

me too

sleeper hit on here for me is "Pink Up"

Wimmels, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 19:46 (five days ago) Permalink

looking at the vinyl tracklisting for Transference, "Written In Reverse" or "Trouble Comes Running" seems like an obvious choice to kick off the B-side, that I'm having a hard time believing they went with "I Saw the Light" from anything other than sheer laziness (keeping the track order the same for the CD & LP)

the tracklisting of that album in general is just nutty: "Before Destruction" throws me off-kilter like opening the door and walking into a scene where the action is already underway. "Goodnight Laura" practically screams "closing number" but it's nowhere near the end... and I still don't know what to make of them burying the album's best song, "Got Nuffin", at the number-ten slot. (maybe the whole thing, I'm realizing now as I describe it, maps onto the structure of a live show w/ encore ?)

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 21:25 (five days ago) Permalink

(sorry this was an xpost to the conversation upthread about whether Transference has a weak second side, to which I say: not on your life, pal!)

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 21:26 (five days ago) Permalink

"I Saw The Light" is a fine side-opener imo

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 21:29 (five days ago) Permalink

It's too early for me to tell how I feel about this new record as a whole -- to the extent I've been listening to it, I've mostly done so in bits and pieces while walking around. Having great opening tracks either side, and releasing 'em both ahead of the album so they had time to get their hooks in, makes it easy to listen on repeat while I work my way into the heavier grooves ("Do I Have To Talk You Into It", "Tear It Down")

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 21:34 (five days ago) Permalink

xp to me the song feels like a side-ender... tbh I am mostly judging it in terms of the times I have almost fallen asleep during the extended jammy outro & then when "Trouble" hits I jump up like "aw yeah, right, we' rocking, isn't we!?"

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 21:38 (five days ago) Permalink

actually now I'm re-listening, the decision to strip "I Saw The Light" down to a lo-fi home-recorded demo aesthetic at the very end (for ~10 seconds), then begin "Trouble Comes Running" with a similarly isolated and thin-sounding guitar part, is kind of brilliant

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 21:42 (five days ago) Permalink

I feel like Spoon deconstruct "bandness" in a way I don't know anyone else has done. They show their workings within the songs.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 21:44 (five days ago) Permalink

yeah that's a level of their work that I didn't appreciate until fairly recently -- they don't hit you over the head with it like, idk, Todd Rundgren on Something/Anything

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 22:11 (five days ago) Permalink

Have you just been downloading / streaming?

yes, i was using the free Spotify but have been paying $10 for awhile now. i figured $10 is way less than i used to spend per month on CDs.

To Live and Die In L.A. (Bee OK), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 13:54 (four days ago) Permalink

on initial listen this feels like a descendent of kill the moonlight in terms of its deconstructionist tendencies. seems like a good record. i don't mind "us" but it does break a long streak of killer closing tracks (like, back to telephono long)

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:04 (four days ago) Permalink

xp I'm sure indie rock appreciates your generous support

Wimmels, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:06 (four days ago) Permalink

i remember the old music critic description of spoon circa kill the moonlight was that their songs were jenga towers where they tried to strip out as much as possible without them collapsing into nothing. they're not quite that minimalist anymore but i think some sort of architectural metaphor still works

ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:08 (four days ago) Permalink

Am I alone in thinking this is the worst Spoon album in a long time? That being said it's certainly not bad, but "WhisperI'lllistentohearit" sounds like a bad Cult song and half the album seems well below par in terms of hooks.

DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:36 (four days ago) Permalink

Hmm, I actually hear the Cult thing but that doesn't diminish my love for that song, it's one of my favorites. It reminds me of Dwight Twilley or something (once it kicks in)

Overall, not a hook-y album, this is also true. But hooks are not why I buy Spoon albums

Wimmels, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:40 (four days ago) Permalink

hooks are why i buy spoon albums

but this one has just enough

ciderpress, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:45 (four days ago) Permalink

I can't believe people aren't losing their shit over "Pink Up," which sounds like Tortoise and Mellow Gold-era Beck getting together to try to make Kid A

Wimmels, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:49 (four days ago) Permalink

Wimmels perfectly describes why I'm not feeling this album.

DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:55 (four days ago) Permalink

Wimmels your Twilley comparison has me intrigued though I'll listen again with that in mind.

DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 14:57 (four days ago) Permalink

I'm hearing fuckloads of hooks in this, especially on those first four tracks. Jesus. They're like a velcro prom dress. They're just mostly rhythmic and riff-based rather then vocal.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 15:12 (four days ago) Permalink

Am I alone in thinking this is the worst Spoon album in a long time? That being said it's certainly not bad, but "WhisperI'lllistentohearit" sounds like a bad Cult song and half the album seems well below par in terms of hooks.

― DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:36 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i couldn't get into it but i've only listened once. i think maybe it's too fridmann-y

na (NA), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 15:52 (four days ago) Permalink

I thought the last one was too Fridmann-y, but that this one pulls back from there. I wasn't keen on TWMS, and would still rank it below everything else since KTM.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:28 (four days ago) Permalink

GF, GA(x5), and Transference are miles better than the last two albums. The last album had a few better stand alone tunes, but didn't sound very cohesive which is not surprising knowing that they worked with two different producers. Hot Thoughts sounds more like an album, but the tunes just don't stand out to me. I will say the song "Hot Thoughts" is one of my favorite things they've ever done.

DavidLeeRoth, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 16:38 (four days ago) Permalink

i find it hard to believe daniel's ability to write a hooky tune will ever wither, so the new one just seems to me like a deliberate effort to write a certain kind of album. i like at least a few tunes on 'soul' way better than anything on this one, yet i find i've already played the new one ~40 times. it has a very compelling arc to it.

j., Wednesday, 22 March 2017 17:07 (four days ago) Permalink

this is good but the drum sounds are kinda driving me nuts fucking flaming lips ruined drums forever

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 17:18 (four days ago) Permalink

I love all Spoon albums, including this one so far. BUT the run from Kill the Moonlight to Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga (give or take the albums bookending that run) are rarefied air. This album and the last one are good but feel less essential to me. I haven't felt a desire to go back to the last one in quite some time.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 22 March 2017 21:32 (four days ago) Permalink

Starting to think of this band in comparison with Clinic. Pretty much same number of albums, same issues with building blocks, how to modify their sound, production, how to progress artistically, etc. I liked Free Reign II better than anything Spoon has done recently, which might be a good indication of where I'd like them to go.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 22 March 2017 22:31 (four days ago) Permalink

that is frankly bizarre. spoon's success with those things over an extended period has become the defining feature of the band.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 23 March 2017 01:08 (three days ago) Permalink

Is Transference a break-up album?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 24 March 2017 08:53 (two days ago) Permalink

I think its the sound of the band breaking up more than a relationship Britt was having, but I could be wrong.

DavidLeeRoth, Friday, 24 March 2017 12:05 (two days ago) Permalink

Not getting into this album, feel a bit turned off by the obviousness of the titles and choruses. Where are the beasts and dragons, the monsieur valentines, the sister jacks and japanese cigarette cases? Have they strayed too far from the mystery zone?

ledge, Sunday, 26 March 2017 13:20 (five hours ago) Permalink

i forgot how well executed My Mathematical Mind is - they ride on that single chord for a full 3 minutes until when it finally resolves in the final bars it feels like total collapse

ciderpress, Sunday, 26 March 2017 17:30 (one hour ago) Permalink


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