come anticipate Miranda Lambert's new double album The Weight of These Wings

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there are 1440 minutes in a day

without sleeping, eating, or using the bathroom, every interview would have to last no more than 6 and a half minutes, not taking into account interview changeovers

calling bullshit on this bit of trivia

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 10 July 2021 11:31 (two years ago) link

is there a reason not to allow for even shorter spots? like just a couple of minutes? since it’s radio there could be a lot of quick hits imo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 10 July 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link

Do you buy this trivia?:

This is also where he met famous country music artist Taylor Swift. Jack stated they were developing a relationship though she wasn't interested.

r u rolling pop 2021 (morrisp), Saturday, 10 July 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

I didn’t know they did a Tiny Desk thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKK5FV6zPkY

r u rolling pop 2021 (morrisp), Sunday, 11 July 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

they also did the first episode of this CMT network show "Campfire Sessions"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8RCYBvByyQ
http://www.cmt.com/shows/cmt-campfire-sessions

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Monday, 12 July 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link

Dang that Tiny Desk is good!

Indexed, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

this is the best album of all time

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 11 September 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

I was listening to the first Pistol Annies yesterday and thinking the same thing. Her longevity and versatility is a gift.

Indexed, Sunday, 11 September 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

Acquaintances on a music-loving message board I frequent expressed genuine shock when this album appeared on the RS list. They still hold fast to CEG.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link

Love Crazy Ex-Girlfriend but for me this is pretty obviously the best Miranda album. Albeit I mostly mean the first disc when I say that.

Tim F, Sunday, 11 September 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

Her only mediocre album is Four the Record, which, if so, well...

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link

CEG is still my favorite, but "best," sure, I'm on the Wings train. There's an artistry and depth to it that is unique in her catalog, and I think she recognized that and very wisely chose to package it in a way that clearly stands out in her discography. But there's something to be said for CEG's tightness--some would find a song like "Famous in a Small Town" too tight, too Nashville, but me? I can't think of an opening three track run that I prefer in all of 21st century country music.

Indexed, Sunday, 11 September 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

Her last two albums are its match, though. I get CEG' importance too

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 September 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

Not sure if I've shared this before, but I'm almost certain my first encounter with Lambert -- who I now consider my favorite solo artist, period -- was the Stylus 2007 AOTY list where CEG placed, iirc, 2nd, and the blurb was written by none other than Alfred Soto.

Indexed, Monday, 12 September 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

lol that's right!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 September 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

my wife and I watched her season of Nashville Star, way back in another lifetime. she was clearly terrific, but i *think* i remember feeling like they picked the right winner? not certain about that. but i liked ol' Buddy Jewell.

alpine static, Monday, 12 September 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link

platinum is her best album to me. she expanded her sound and at the same time the songwriting is as sharp and witty as ever, while also being emotionally affecting, and catchy. it's like what taylor did w/ 'red' except (imo) even better. or what kacey did w/ 'golden hour.' there's no fat on the album at all. "girls," "priscilla," bathroom sink" couldn't have been on any of the albums before that & those are perfect songs to me. just great songwriting in a very classic sense and with production that fleshes out her sound in a natural way. and then you have like "smokin and drinkin" where she does something completely new and pulls it off. "little red wagon" sounds like it could be on the first be your own pet album. the lyric "something about platinum irrefutably / looks as good on records as it does on me" is positively mariah carey-esque. "another sunday in the south" is an effortless southern rock homage... my favorite closer of hers. the bridge on "holding on to you" ("baby we just rolled in / it's cold here in michigan..."). prob a top 10 album ever for me honestly.

but i can't hate on anyone who thinks weight of these wings is her best album, that's the album that made me fall in love w/ her music. if you took the best 16 tracks on that it might be better than platinum but it's amazing that she did a double album and i happily play it all the way through. "happiness ain't prison but there's freedom in a broken heart."

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 02:58 (one year ago) link

i actually think wildcard is closer in quality to platinum than i would've thought possible, it's great in the same way tho obv less great. has at least three of her best ever songs to me. revolution is the fourth classic to me. i need to spend more time w/ CEG

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link

a question i'm not sure i'd ever be able to answer is which album between weight of these wings ("runnin just in case" & "i've got wheels") and platinum ("girls" & "another sunday in the south") has the better opener/closer combo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 03:07 (one year ago) link

I put Platinum one spot ahead of Wings on my decade ballot, but I consider "Somethin' Bad" one of her worst songs.

re: Openers/Closers, she's always been so adept at making and sequencing coherent albums, but Kerosene, CEG, and Wings would be my podium finishers. I don't know how she did it but she somehow took the album opener from one of my all-time favorite country albums, slowed it down a hair, and made it the perfect send-off to CEG. The way that track dissolves piece by piece and is left with just the drumbeat gets me every time.

Indexed, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

I'm a little embarrassed b/c Platinum topped my 2014 album list. At the time I cringed at the title track, "Somethin' Bad," "Automatic," and "Gravity is a Bitch," the kind of shtick that made FTR stink. But Platinum also has "Smokin' and "Drinkin'," "Vice," and "Bathroom Sink (her best self-written song imo).

Wildcard and Palomino astonish me with their confidence, and they owe a lot to Wings.

My current ranking:

Wings
Wildcard
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Palomino
Kerosene
Platinum
Revolution
Four the Record

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

i've had a tough time getting into palomino honestly. it's all a bit... jaunty to me. but i need to revisit

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 14 September 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

it is quite jaunty! i love pretty much all the songs - i think it’d be a great roadtrip album. but mostly i love playing on friday evening after i’m done with my work week, they’re all pretty good “letting off steam” songs imo

i misheard the chorus for actin up initially, i thought it was “i want a car ride home, a california glow” instead of the correct lyric “colorado high, california glow” which makes sooo much more sense lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

otm

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I'll actually login for the first time since the Plague Years started to do this.

Here's how I assessed her full catalogue a few months back (on Twitter, hence the character counts):

A rankdown of the strongest catalog-- and it's not particularly close-- in this century's popular music. Side hustles in (#) but still ranked, and those side hustles are also better than most mainline careers. There's just no one else on Miranda Lambert's level.

#8 (#12) Wildcard (***)
Her contemporaries would dismember a hobo for an album this solid to be their worst. Too many half-baked, everything-to-everyone metaphors ("Bluebird" included, y'all) in the songwriting for a writer of her caliber, but some real winners, too.

#7 (#11) Four the Record (***1/2)
The heinous title tips its hand that something's a bit off for the first time, and it's the first of her albums to include anything that's actually poor ("Over You," still her worst single by miles, "Baggage Claim"). Still: Look at Miss Ohio.

(#10) Annie Up (***1/2)
Another bad wordplay as a warning sign. On their 2nd outing, they were still working out how seriously they wanted PAs to be taken after their debut's odd reception; it's the only time these 3, solo or together, ever sounded at all unsure of themselves.

(#9) The Marfa Tapes (****)
Points toward what her post-mainstream career might sound like, but let's hope that includes collaborators whose voices blend better with hers, less problematic cultural signifiers. But who else's first drafts are this good?

#6 (#8) Kerosene (****)
She was brilliant ("Kerosene," "Me and Charlie..," "What About GA") right out of the gate, conventional wisdom be damned; the slant rhymes and first-person details that she deploys better than anyone were already intact.

#5 (#7) Palomino (****)
An album that finds stability and comfort in restlessness and camaraderie in outsiders. She's covered these themes on individual songs before, but never with empathy this deep or with singing this nuanced. Some career-best lines in these songs.

(#6) Hell On Heels (****)
A slap in the face to the genre's authenticity fetishists, the Annies' debut revels in its artifice. Like the contemporaneous Laura Bell Bundy, they use country signifiers as a drag revue, and with killer, hook-forward songs.

#4 (#5) The Weight Of These Wings (****)
Less about her celebrity divorce than it is about how trauma re-forges a person's identity, it's her moodiest and most inward-focusing set. "Vice" remains a career-best, but, like most double-albums, this does have filler to cut.

#3 (#4) Revolution (****1/2)
Lacking the thematic heft of many of her other albums, it's still, song-for-song, her most consistently *great* set, a high-water mark for quality albums Music Row actually embraced.

#2 (#3) Platinum (****1/2)
Divorce Albums are a cliché, so Miranda, always ahead of the curve, made a Pre-divorce Album: Grateful for who she's been, keenly aware of who she is now, unapologetic about who she's going to be. A few clunkers, yes, but a bunch of her highest highs.

(#2) Interstate Gospel (*****)
No lingering doubts from its predecessor that they're a singular act of substance, the Annies' Interstate Gospel is the truth you *should* find in every hotel nightstand, a vision of an unmoored population that finds grace in limbo.

#1 (#1) Crazy-Ex Girlfriend (*****)
I said what I said: "Brash, insightful, wry, and, above all else, *smart*, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend confirms that Miranda Lambert is... a country music legend in the making, and the most vital artist Music Row has produced in a generation."

jon_oh, Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link

She's the best popular singer-songwriter.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:57 (one year ago) link

I can't rank those marvelous Pistol Annies albums with Lambert albums.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 23:58 (one year ago) link

She's absolutely the best popular singer-songwriter. I don't know that I would really even entertain a different argument.

xp-Alfred: That's why I offset them in (): They're deserving of their own consideration, but I also think it has been overlooked-- outside of Very Online Country Music Writers-- how great they truly are. Feels weird to exclude them entirely, when they're of a piece with Lambert's overall career.

jon_oh, Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link

Four the Record looks especially disappointing next to the release of the first Pistol Annies album.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

Surprised to see Marfa Tapes rated so low. (Are the problematic cultural signifiers a reference to “Tequila Does”?)

mosh pit insurance agent (morrisp), Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

To me, their voices not blending is sort of part of the charm, but I get the critique.

mosh pit insurance agent (morrisp), Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

wait, i'm not much of a lyrics person ... what are the problematic cultural signifiers on Marfa Tapes?

alpine static, Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

oh sorry, xp ... should've read the "posted since" more closely

alpine static, Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

I respect The Marfa Tapes as demos for Palomino but I haven't listened to it since May 2021 and probably won't go back.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link

marfa tape - surely technically imperfect campfire harmonies are the whole point imo? the crackle of the fire or the wind in the microphone, shuffles & sniffles all part of the vibe

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 September 2022 00:54 (one year ago) link

Yeah, its twilight-to-evening presence sneaks up on me every time, like a great one-off bootleg---think I'll scoop up that and all the Pistol Annies albums, incl. the xmas, and my imaginary friend The Great Lost Pistol Annies Album, from their solo joints etc.---and go tottering off---

dow, Thursday, 15 September 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

But OK speaking of solo joints here are some, from my Nash Scene ballots, show previews etc over the years:

Miranda Lambert
Thursday @Celeste
When tiny blonde Miranda Lambert scored her first country hit by applying “Kerosene” to a cheatin’ boyfriend, the even-cuter-when-she’s mad factor promised to get out of hand. But ”Kerosene,” “Gunpowder And Lead” and “Crazy Ex-Girlfriend” gain more credibility as album tracks: tabloid-fueled or not, they’re as truly expressive as any other pages from the diary of a frustrated, sleeplessly dreaming small-town girl. Speaking of fuel, be sure to check the re-run of Lambert’s “Austin City Limits” set, where she and her band leave the somewhut more jaded or just plain tahred Gretchen Wilson’s crew in the dust.

Miranda Lambert
Friday @ Nationwide Arena

Young country star Miranda Lambert’s current album, “Revolution”, cranks up and orbits old folk star John Prine’s “That’s The Way The World Goes Round.” She’s found her own sharp-eyed stoicism, just naturally igniting when rubbed the wrong way too hard. Some say she rocks too hard for country, but Lambert’s “Only Prettier” draws on the droll, drawled comic zingers of honky tonk, and she thoughtfully, tunefully re-affirms her roots. It helps that her father’s an ace guitar picker, and both parents are also private detectives, specializing in marital disputes.

Miranda Lambert, Platinum: The winter of her discontent, and not just a diva's hissy fit. Oh yeah, when she stresses about being upstaged by her big loud stupid TV star husband (as if trying to maintain your hard-won status as a female star in NashVegas---having started as third-place finalist on TV's historic Nashville Star, then: gaining foothold via persona of cute-when-she's mad, eggsy gun-freak/pyro---now: vs. electro-bro chart toppers wasn't enough) we're perfectly cued to respond, "Oh no, Miranda, you're Elvis, he's Priscilla!" But she manages even that obvious move really well, ditto sassing us 'bout can't have a ride in my little red wagon---cause it's ALL MESSED UP. That's the way she really feels, pretty sure; she's not just playing hard to get, she is hard to get, hard to get a grip on, hard to accept, in her own view. Which is also true in the hinge track (getting even more relatable, as the kids say), where she doesn't wanna catch herself in the mirror, maybe looking like her Momma, the loved opponent who taught her to clean up this "Bathroom Sink," this microcosm of messy life itself. But she does go out with Little Big Town, getting relatable as hell on the bro and sis Saturday night parking lot circuit: "Smokin' and drinkin thinkin' bout the one that GOT AWAY," hell yeah, damn! Overall, the country equivalent of Beyonce's s/t Platinum Edition.

Prob be some argument, but to me, for now (especially with some of the guitars on relative mainstreamer Miranda Lambert's The Weight of These Wings is not that far from the more consistently "out" sounds of Lucinda Williams and cookin' E. Cook), this is a country album: the pitch and cadence of her voice, the turns of phrases, as written and sung, guide and shadow the grooves, bringing out the bluesy elements of crossroads sounds, without trying to pretend they're pre-digital; the subject matter, layers of atmospheric consistency---the fixations of an addict, recovering enough for perspective on same---though getting the fix, "getting straight," as they used to say, can provide enough detachment for moments of insight even inside the thing, as "Dharma Gate" and others suggest---all merge with certain classic themes of country, even if she's not meditating on a shot glass all of the time.

From a later online discussion:
Going for what I called her "sonic grid"---that dark, spare, hard-edged but flexible framework for the throughline of her narrative themes---has some of the same appeal as Stapleton and Eric Church's recent albums, something of a Jamey Johnson atmosphere too, but I doubt that she expects as much radio play as they've gotten. The main challenge is writing about this stuff at all, without becoming too dependent on lurid imagery or therapyspeak, or seeming evasive. Her current solution seems to be just to begin in the middle, to tell it like she might have told it then, in her most self-aware, lucid and candid moments. And maybe she's still in the middle of it, for all we know--but I have the impression (because the self-awareness etc is so sustained here) that she's been through some kind of therapy, with whatever lapses experienced or still possible, and of course the idea is to know yourself to be a recovering addict, present tense, no matter how long you've been sober. So, while these songs may not be the deepest, as Edd Hurt prev. mentioned, this is how far she's gotten writing-wise (with anything she'd want to show us now, at least).

dow, Thursday, 15 September 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link

Sorry! I was hewing too close to Ctrl + Search in the personal archive, so that Weight mention was really just in the middle of scribble about Elizabeth Cook's also badass Exodus of Venus.

dow, Thursday, 15 September 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link

Ctrl + F search, that is.

dow, Thursday, 15 September 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link

... and same writer has an interview with Miranda out today: https://www.vulture.com/2022/09/miranda-lambert-vegas-best-worst-music.html

that's not my post, Thursday, 15 September 2022 05:00 (one year ago) link

i love this

I, for a while, did this set where I would end with a fiery one and then go down and do a couple ballads, like “House That Built Me” and “Dark Bars.” I had to switch it, because I would do “Mama’s” before “House That Built Me,” and always girls would start fighting in the front row, and then they’d still be fighting through my ballad. And I’m like, All right, we’re going to have to put “House That Built Me” somewhere else because they don’t get over it quick enough.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 September 2022 05:13 (one year ago) link

she’s right that “dead flowers” is one of her best songs

J0rdan S., Thursday, 15 September 2022 05:29 (one year ago) link

i love it so much

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 15 September 2022 05:36 (one year ago) link

Also I love this bit about "The House That Built Me":

"I’m so thankful for that song. I sing it every night and I watch people cry. I cry once a tour, at least — especially if I’m playing in Dallas, because my family’s there. I think any songwriter that you ask right now, they have that on their top-ten list of songs they wish they’d written. It’s just so vivid, and parts of it are part of all of our childhood. But my guitar player for so long, who I lost this year, Scotty Wray — the first time he heard it, I was saying, “Isn’t this just everyone’s story?” He goes, “No. I wish I had that house. I wish that was my story.” I’d never thought about it like that. There’s a whole different meaning when you listen to it from someone that didn’t have that. It made me cry when he said that. I think that’s the power of “The House That Built Me.” It brings out so much emotion."

Tim F, Thursday, 15 September 2022 07:41 (one year ago) link

To think she didn't enjoy a country smash until 2010 and "The House That Built Me." Radio didn't know what to do with her.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 September 2022 12:01 (one year ago) link

I wrote here at the time that Revolution side one was her most rockin' side ever.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 September 2022 12:04 (one year ago) link

good list, jon_oh! Here's mine today - no doubt it'll be a bit different tomorrow.

Tier 1
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend
Platinum
The Weight of These Wings
Hell on Heels
Kerosene

Tier 2
Wildcard
Palomino
The Marfa Tapes
Interstate Gospel
Revolution

Tier 3
Annie Up
Four The Record

Indexed, Thursday, 15 September 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

Re: Cultural signifiers

Yeah, "Tequila Does," coupled with some interviews she did around the same time in which she had some tone-deaf responses about being a white woman opening a Tex-Mex restaurant / tequila bar. She's shown great allyship on LGBTQ+ issues, but she really didn't seem to get it when it came to cultural appropriation. I believe Dr. Amanda Martinez, whose work is essential in the country space, did some writing about it that explains it more authoritatively.

Re: Marfa

Still a great album, for sure: Check the **** ratings for albums (9) and above in my rankdown, and those rankings are always in flux depending on what I've listened to most recently. I just don't think the actual vocal timbres of their three voices make a pleasant sound when they sing together (I also think Trisha Yearwood and Garth Brooks sound horrible together, so...), in a way that detracts at least somewhat from my enjoyment of the album.

jon_oh, Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

she had some tone-deaf responses about being a white woman opening a Tex-Mex restaurant / tequila bar.

She's from Texas, where a substantial number of Tex-Mex restaurants/tequila bars are run by monied Whites under less scrutiny.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link


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