So a new UK music mag has launched ....part 66756564 - "Louder Than War"

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LJ must be editor if Mansun are in a mag in 2015

http://vivelerock.net/item/louder-than-war-issue-1/

Louder Than War is the brand new indie music magazine brought to you by the hugely successful website Louderthanwar.com and Big Cheese Publishing Ltd, publisher of Big Cheese and Vive Le Rock magazines.

Aiming to cover the glory years of classic indie, alternative and post-punk music, Louder Than War is launched in September and will initially be a quarterly 116 glossy A4 magazine covering everything from Oasis to Blur, The White Stripes and Joy Division, Swans and Sonic Youth to PJ Harvey and Nirvana.

IN THE FIRST ISSUE:
THE STONE ROSES / MORRISSEY / NEW PSYCH / MANSUN / HAPPY MONDAYS / SLEAFORD MODS / SWANS / MAXIMO PARK / SLAVES / PUBLIC SERVICE BROADCASTING / THE CHARLATANS / ASH / ZOMBI / BIRDLAND / HOOTON TENNIS CLUB / HONEYBLOOD / GRAVE PLEASURES / KAGOULE / SUB POP / DEAFHEAVEN
& more!

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:50 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/BkOfbs9.jpg

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:51 (eight years ago) link

fucksake

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:54 (eight years ago) link

this belongs on that swagger of oasis thread

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:55 (eight years ago) link

& yeah Mansun were great but Stone Roses worship = die, forever

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:55 (eight years ago) link

Blimey.

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:57 (eight years ago) link

oh god

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link

Birdland??? wtf!

xelab, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link

War is obviously a quite quiet thing, thesedays.

Mark G, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:06 (eight years ago) link

still cant believe Mansun are in a magazine in 2015 lol

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:10 (eight years ago) link

while you're trying to wind me up, you must also recognise that there are about 15 things about that cover more embarrassing than Mansun

we're on a slow train to no way sna btw folks, enjoy the ride

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:12 (eight years ago) link

I do like the fact that the top banner line clearly establishes that neither indie, alternative, nor post-punk are in any way weird.

The cover is pretty hideous, though. I mean, blue and gray doesn't exactly scream "BUY ME NOW!" even in England, does it?

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link

fits in with the general design of LTW to be honest.

mark e, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:17 (eight years ago) link

The Quietus has really let itself go.

Matt DC, Thursday, 24 September 2015 13:36 (eight years ago) link

ZOMBI / BIRDLAND

sounds like an iggy tribute act

Ray Chard (NickB), Thursday, 24 September 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

is this basically John Robb: The Magazine?

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 24 September 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link

is this basically John Robb: The Magazine?

― glumdalclitch, Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:19 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This was my first thought.

Turrican, Thursday, 24 September 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link

covering everything from Oasis to Blur

let no-one live rent free in your butt (sic), Thursday, 24 September 2015 16:06 (eight years ago) link

The band's second album, Not Real, was released on 13 April 2015[5] to "generally favourable" reviews.[6]

6. ^ Metacritic, http://www.metacritic.com/music/not-real/stealing-sheep

nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 16:40 (eight years ago) link

The Quietus has really let itself go.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 24 September 2015 14:36 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

westminster cerdo ring (wins), Thursday, 24 September 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link

how many copies of that first issue would they expect to sell

nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

presumably an arse-covering amount if there's an actual Stone Roses interview in there (the cover not specifying one suggests there isn't). other than that I genuinely can't figure out who this is supposed to be aimed at

Hector Ringtone (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

ex-artrocker readers.

mark e, Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

People who bought the nme once in a while? Seems significant that they launched this at the same time the nme retreated to a dusty corner of your nearest Topman

Ray Chard (NickB), Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link

I genuinely can't figure out who this is supposed to be aimed at

There's a whole thread on here stuffed to the gunwales with the bastards.

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

I knew Tom D would buy it

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link

maybe a couple of thousand?

nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:25 (eight years ago) link

can u get it over here

deejerk reactions (darraghmac), Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

theres probably an ocd population who compulsively buy new magazines like those 'collectible miniature busts of victorian generals, issue 1 with free custer' type of things advertised on daytime tv

nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:27 (eight years ago) link

I cant imagine deems buying those

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

From Ash to Zombi, thats the whole gamut to some folk that post on here.

xelab, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/EKKBliz.jpg

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

from the new psych article

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:12 (eight years ago) link

out of any playlist i've ever seen, that one veers most wildly from incredible to shit

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link

two of the better songs from the last 10-15 years followed respectively by hookworms & a noel gallagher remix

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:16 (eight years ago) link

Are you a psychedelic music fan imago?

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link

i am 2/19 a psychedelic music fan

twunty fifteen (imago), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link

u love 'ing birds tho

nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:24 (eight years ago) link

Gallagher & Dawson, it could work.

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link

This looks like the magazine equivalent of a million interminable ILM threads about shite indie, so I'm guessing someone must figure this stuff is worth writing about.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link

otm^^^

xelab, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

Also music mags referencing bands from 20-odd years ago isn't really a thing. The only weird thing about this is that people still buy print magazines, but I guess that's why it has to reference stuff relevant to and from the era when people still bought print magazines.

ailsa, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link

Stealing Sheep leading the charge of the new psych brigade!

who is Stealing Sheep?

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:32 (eight years ago) link

Aberdonians

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link

theyre from liverpool i think so I guess they read their big brothers shroomadelica issue of nme

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q0UCBNYsms

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:42 (eight years ago) link

ok doesnt sound like i expected. its not all dudes for a start

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link

that's not bad actually
doesn't really seem psych but i dunno

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 September 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link

OK, you made that up!

Mark G, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link

argh

come back Plan B, they gave me a nice DAF CD and some coldwave comp or other for subscribing iirc

(yes, please be made up. top notch photoshop skillz if so)

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:18 (eight years ago) link

I have no such skills

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link

CTCL , LLSS and Plan B were great mags

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link

o did Sealings move to Brighton

all good Oxford bands (and some of the bad ones) move to Brighton

(perhaps it is a different Sealings)

― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:05 AM (12 minutes ago)

I think they might have been at uni at Oxford, actually, so quite possibly the same ones? (They are m8s, innit.)

This looks fucking shit. Though my interaction with LTW online has always been "oh, a link to that place, it's supposed to be alright iirc... oh no, wait, it's a pile of bollocks".

emil.y, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/8Yum5qK.jpg

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/u1Yv2op.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9Xds93D.jpg

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link

Are we actually supposed to read those or.....

brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:40 (eight years ago) link

just letting people know the contents. Sorry if the pics arent great

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link

Please don't say "if you don't like a thread, don't read it"

brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link

Help me out here, are we supposed to point and laugh?

brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link

wait you bought this? what is happening, i thought we were making fun of britrock bands

brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:50 (eight years ago) link

i kinda like it for that alternative universe vibe. like looking at christian rock magazines. a world where people still listen to old mansun cds...it might as well be sci-fi to me. but it's just a culture thing. korean music magazines would be just as foreign to me. maximo park! i mean what on earth could they sound like? feels like i've seen that name forever.

scott seward, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link

xp

yeah I bought it as I wanted something to read while waiting for my opticians appointment

Cosmic Slop, Friday, 25 September 2015 23:59 (eight years ago) link

unbelievable how long stone roses can run on two albums. isn't it? are they rich from those records? talked about endlessly since 1994! that is truly impressive. how many words in the u.k. print world have been written about those dudes? millions maybe.

scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:00 (eight years ago) link

haha sex pistols did one

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link

is it strictly a British thing?

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link

do young british people listen to the stone roses or is just old geezers who look like the sleaford mods who still listen to them?

scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:11 (eight years ago) link

i dunno, i would have to think really hard to come up with a band who released so little music who have gotten as much ink in the u.s. as the roses have. there aren't really any music mags here though. it's not like you read about big star everywhere here. bad example anyway. the stone roses are ALWAYS in british music mags.

scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:13 (eight years ago) link

i guess The La's beat even the roses though. i'm sure mojo still writes about them.

scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link

I have seen two girls about 12 who live near me wearing Stone Roses and Nirvana tshirts. That's the kind of level they are. Sure i bet they are seen as the "weird kids" in school but those into music always were.

Stone Roses were very important to a section of people my * age (not just guys I may say)

*inc me

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:18 (eight years ago) link

Scott are there a lot of niche magazines in the US or are they just general music types? Anything that covers 'indie'?

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link

uhhhhhh, is Magnet still a magazine? or Alternative Press? they are the only indie ones i can think of and they might be out of business by now. there are a lot less places to BUY magazines in the U.S. now. you can still always find Mojo and Uncut and the Wire though. i buy Ugly Things when it comes out. that's about the only U.S. music zine i buy.

scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:05 (eight years ago) link

and i still get Decibel in the mail free every month. because they like me.

scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link

Decibel is really the only kinda-big U.S. music magazine that is any good. in my opinion.

there is wax poetics. but i consider that more of a niche/zine thing like an ugly things. smaller in scale than decibel. and i rarely see it anywhere anymore.

scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link

I wonder why metal print mags survive and indie ones cant? (Metal was never mainstream here)
Especially here in the UK where niche of a niche metal mags can survive

Kerrang (Ok not metal now but the only rock mag that has more than 50% female readership)
Terrorizer
Zero Tolerance
Iron Fist
Rockarolla
Big Cheese

xp

I have a digital sub to Decibel as I cant get the mag here and the print mag is too expensive to import

While they do overlap sometimes they also cover a lot of stuff the others dont.
and probably others i forgot/dont know about.

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:13 (eight years ago) link

metal fans are to the death. they will buy anything metal.

scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:21 (eight years ago) link

Alternative Press is definitely still around, and thriving. They just had a 30th anniversary exhibit at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, actually. I'm really impressed by what they do, even though I don't write for them anymore (I stopped last year). They know exactly who their audience is - basically teenagers through people in their early 20s - and they cater to them incredibly well. Whether or not you like what they cover is one thing, but you would almost never look at an issue of AP and think, "Why is that band in here?"

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:22 (eight years ago) link

U.K. mags in general just vastly superior to anything here. but there isn't much left here. but even the U.K. mags with Joe Bonnamassa on the cover are LEAGUES better in every way. design, layout, writing, art, photos, everything.

scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:24 (eight years ago) link

AP has always been good at what they do. and years ago they covered metal that no other non-metal mag would. i just haven't seen a copy in years.

scott seward, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:25 (eight years ago) link

I don't think I'd ever see it if I didn't have a subscription. Same reason I still see Down Beat (which is horrible, btw - hideous covers, awful layouts, and astonishingly bad writing); I vote in their annual critics' poll, and every year everybody who votes in the poll gets a year's subscription as a thank-you.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:27 (eight years ago) link

I definitely think that 'niche' mags are the only ones that can survive. Hopefully not just niche mags that only cover older music though.

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link

It's a shame that you cant have a music mag that covers everything but nobody seems willing to pay for it.

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:36 (eight years ago) link

Because nobody likes "everything." A magazine like that would have max 2 articles per issue that any given potential consumer might like. That's a recipe for abject failure. The only way to sell a magazine is to make sure that a potential buyer a) knows more or less what they're gonna get (which keeps them coming back) or b) can look at the cover and say "OK, I'd like to read about them...and them...and him...and him...and her...and that...all right, that's worth five bucks."

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 26 September 2015 01:49 (eight years ago) link

the magical belief in the rejuvenating qualities of 'new music' as subscribed to by aging tastemakers is not wrong because it is irrational but because the attempt to assert vitality through consumption is grotesque

― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 9:24 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god thank you!

― mattresslessness, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:38 (Yesterday) Permalink


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everything, Saturday, 26 September 2015 05:58 (eight years ago) link

I've not seen anything about or referencing The La's for a long tiime.

Mark G, Saturday, 26 September 2015 08:32 (eight years ago) link

lol uk landfill posters just cant keep off my dick on threads like this

noɪˈɣiːələx (nakhchivan), Saturday, 26 September 2015 10:19 (eight years ago) link

louder than war tho with significantly less tendency for millions of innocent young men to be mowed down like blades of grass

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Saturday, 26 September 2015 10:26 (eight years ago) link

safer than war

doing my Objectives, handling some intense stuff (LocalGarda), Saturday, 26 September 2015 10:26 (eight years ago) link

louder than War (band)

fappy board (wins), Saturday, 26 September 2015 10:29 (eight years ago) link

if that's the band 'War' there then yes.

Mark G, Saturday, 26 September 2015 11:19 (eight years ago) link

there's fans of landfill indie on ilx?

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link

several posters seem peculiarly obsessed with it

nameReinhard Gruhl/name (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 26 September 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

Would hope that doesn't mean they like it!

dont think mansun,stone roses etc quite count as landfill indie however

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

there's a band called KAGOULE?

kinder, Saturday, 26 September 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link

from nottingham apparently

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvOmgnfJsa8

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 26 September 2015 21:49 (eight years ago) link

the reviews section is a decent size

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 28 September 2015 14:12 (eight years ago) link

...there are a lot less places to BUY magazines in the U.S. now. you can still always find Mojo and Uncut and the Wire though...

― scott seward, Friday, September 25, 2015 9:05 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea that's true, basically bookstores and record shops both of which are sometimes hard to find

also i am not seeing the wire mag anywhere lately, even at bookstores with larger-than-usual magazine selections

marcos, Monday, 28 September 2015 14:26 (eight years ago) link


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