Best Underground American Noise Act of the Noise-Punk Era (ca. 1998-2005)

Photo of a Japanese band, obv, but I like it

lol is that thurston moore on the left

ok yea it definitely is

anyway voted for fat worm of error since i used to know a couple of the dudes in the band, they did this amazing video installation thing at hampshire college sometime in 08-09 that was very cool

wolf eyes/yellow swans prob the highest profile in this list but they put out some good albums

can't say i'm familiar with many of the others

hard 2 choose

Since I can only vote for one, make mine Magik Markers: plenty presence of speculative persona in thee onslaught of absence

Voted Hair Police, btw

no Sissy Spacek, no Aufgehoben

Vote John Wiese if you wanna vote Sissy Spacek

Aufgehoben is from England

Everybody's from Africa originally

And everyone ends up techno in the end :(

the band

Air Conditioning

for

the album

Dead Rails

which was dope circa 2007

Voted Wolf Eyes. A vote otherwise is just foolish. Love this scene to death. The big 4 were Wolf Eyes, Double Leopards, Prurient, Nautical Almanac. I'd add to the list Macronympha, Emil Beaulieau, and Crank Sturgeon.

ahhh missed the American part of the thread title.

I would associate Macronympha, Emil and Crank with Ninetiesnoise even though they were v active...

I LOVED Fat Day live. One of the most fun bands out of this list for sure. Can't really vote for a "best" from any of them though, cause if I tried I would just go on and on.

It is really weird to think how important Double Leopards seemed in pre-Vampire Weekend Brooklyn

Voted Excepter 'cause I always found their stuff really pretty and kind of soothing.

Forgot Bloodyminded!

Would add Kevin Drumm, but don't know if he'd get my vote. Kind of leaning BxC.

Lightning Bolt are kind of the kings of this scene, aren't they? I can see why they aren't an option (more Ruins than Hijo Kaidan), but still.

My favorite band like this has nothing to do with any of it -- the powerviolence band Gasp, from LA.

Oh wait I see the Lightning Bolt issue was addressed in the prompt. Gasp, though -- "Drome Triler of Puzzle Zoo People" is THE classic album of this period.

burning star core

http://breathmint.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/03.19.20.21.2004.gif

most terrifying: Hair Police, Prurient, Wolf Eyes

Man, I would love for No Fun Fest to come back.

Shit was 1000x more important than anything that happened at 285 Kent with zero of the mythologizing and self-fellating

I still have fond memories of Wolf Eyes jamming with Anthony Braxton at Victoriaville (must have been around 2005) so them I guess.

The noise scene now is mostly a rehash of shitty EBM and industrial, and is basically a bunch of dorks acting "cold" and "dark" or jerking off behind a table of gear.

I miss the whole Hair Police/Air Conditioning/Sightings vibes where it looked/felt like a Black Flag show with dudes thrashing around on instruments and people sweating all over, but sounded like a garbage truck eating a smaller garbage truck.

Whiney you aren't on FB so you missed the John 0lson/Haxan Cloak guy thread involving ice cream

also this list is really East Coast-centric.

Yellow Swans played NZ but didn't leave much of an impression. Excepter were great at Creepy Teepee in Kutna Hora but wld lump them & Wolf Eyes in the breakout heavy hitters ...

Would vote UNICORN HARD-ON (also missing: Tan As Fuck/Taiwan Deth...) but Neon Hunk are pretty good runner-up. Saw an act in Guangzhou last night that was pretty Burning Star Core-ish, and I probs listen to BSC more than most of these in a Necks-y background fashion.

Voted Wolf Eyes, tho they were never as great after Dilloway left.

Also saw and enjoyed: Double Leopards (nosier in person than on disc), Prurient, Hive Mind (creepy insect sound), Burning Star Core, Dead Machines, Mouthus (underrated - almost an American variation on the Dead C)

Unicorn Hard-On isn't part of this era.

The noise scene now is mostly a rehash of shitty EBM and industrial, and is basically a bunch of dorks acting "cold" and "dark" or jerking off behind a table of gear.

I miss the whole Hair Police/Air Conditioning/Sightings vibes where it looked/felt like a Black Flag show with dudes thrashing around on instruments and people sweating all over, but sounded like a garbage truck eating a smaller garbage truck.
--posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten)

OTM

I am not sure they fit completely in regards to the intent of this thread, but one of the best live bands of that era without a doubt was USAisaMonster. One of the best shows I ever saw (again in that era) was a Lightning Bolt/USAisaMonster/White Mice/Ground Monkeys show in. But yeah, for me a list like this is pretty impossible to do.

Agree that Wolf Eyes was at its best with Dilloway. They seemed to get more ... cartoonish, or something, after he left.

"... in Richmond" that was supposed to say.

USAisaMonster was incredible, good call grandavis

Bunnybrains!

I think Pissed Jeans just falls into this chronology too, but maybe they're more like Blood Brothers?

Torn between Prurient and Magik Markers, of the ones I know.

And I guess JOMF is too eclectic to qualify, though some of their stuff certainly would.

dudes don't really fit any "scene" and are like 60 but Borbetomagus was the most intense live act I ever saw

feel like orthrelm also belong on here, but they may be too "metal" for this poll

Wish I has seen Magik Markers mark 1 a few more times live. Only saw them twice and it was totally great. Still love that band but the original trio sound was a really cool one.

I miss the whole Hair Police/Air Conditioning/Sightings vibes where it looked/felt like a Black Flag show with dudes thrashing around on instruments and people sweating all over, but sounded like a garbage truck eating a smaller garbage truck.

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, September 21, 2015 7:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is so otm. I saw Wolf Eyes at the Empty Bottle in Chicago in 2002 or so, and it was incredibly sweaty and intense. It felt like their instruments were going to explode at any moment, and that they were doing their best to bring this about.

usaisamonster was fucking good. tasheyana compost rules

Yeah. That tour was really great too.

they were by p much any measure I can think of a 'rock band' but yeah a really great band, totally on their own trip

I'd probably cast my vote for Wolf Eyes or Sightings...

I miss the whole Hair Police/Air Conditioning/Sightings vibes where it looked/felt like a Black Flag show with dudes thrashing around on instruments and people sweating all over, but sounded like a garbage truck eating a smaller garbage truck.

This, I sort of miss being legit terrified at shows, haha

I've never heard of a single one of these bands.

xp - l-r: me, you

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e4/3d/73/e43d73cc3004659ab98fea6e04615375.jpg

plowing through disc 3 starting to feel like I need a break.

Fathers Day's "I Have So Much Respect For Women" oddly appropriate these days

also non-retro, also immune to being licensed and used in marketing/ad industry

― Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:43 PM (4 minutes ago)

Tylenols Ouch campaign

Ouch campaign was a real pioneer in what would basically be how the music industry worked from 2005 to present

Just blasting these bands all day. This is rapidly becoming my nostalgic happy place :O

as much shit as i gave you on this thread, thanks for yr mix.

axolotl was rly good

Can anyone Leonardo those Whiney mixes, pretty pls?

Guerilla Toss and Horse Lords are the only bands I can think of that formed after 2010 that belong in this class. I really miss the abundance of insanely great experimental/noise acts in the 00's.

I would also shout out
Divorce: https://divorce.bandcamp.com/album/divorce-2
White Suns: https://whitesuns.bandcamp.com/album/sinews
Palberta: https://palbertapalberta.bandcamp.com/album/bye-bye-berta

But, yeah, pickings are slim these days

My wife loved yr mixtapes btw whiney

:)

i know they were excluded from this poll but i just found this video of Arab on Radar playing in a boxing ring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOfduAP8E8M

I really miss the abundance of insanely great experimental/noise acts in the 00's.

― flappy bird, Monday, June 19, 2017 5:40 PM (three hours ago)

they miss themselves too -- now everyone's older and is having kids and merch sales doesn't offset the cost of touring the way it used to, and now it's all about darkwave and minimal wave and live PAs

yeah it sucks

now it's all about darkwave and minimal wave and live PAs

painfully otm

dj martian always knew he would be vindicated in time

Full of Hell

what does live PAs mean

V disappointed I missed Whiney's mixes.

Idk why I never got deeper into this scene; maybe just out of fear that it would be exhausting to keep up with it all?

well it's over so it probably wouldn't be too exhausting

Well, yeah; I meant at the time.

it was fun- I remember there was a whole section at a record store here that was just CDRs and tapes spraypainted with like... leaves and twigs and shit glued to the packaging

Just combing thru the Wolf Eyes discography was exhilarating... RIVER SLAUGHTER is my favorite of all those limited shits I got

Wolf Eyes has been really good about keeping their Bandcamp robust, and I've been enjoying the ability to hear a lot of this stuff

Why does no one bring up Sun Foot, Human Adult Band, PC Worship, Kaleidoscope, FNU Clone, Timeghost, HOGG, etc. Tons of bands are plugging away. There is no one scene, but the bands are there. Some one should start a label to document it.

PC Worship and Timeghost rule

because the only thing less lucrative than being in a noise band is running a noise label?

this thread is a treasure. was sad that links to Whiney's mixes were broken. still... a ton of stuff to hunt down. was peripherally aware of some of the bands discussed here, but mostly just got into Wolf Eyes and Yellow Swans - though tbh the only Yellow Swans album I ever loved was Going Places which is pretty much ambient music (and released in '10).

yo this Universal Eyes (Aaron Dilloway / Gretchen Gonzales / John Olson / Nate Young) album is amazing

I miss the whole Hair Police/Air Conditioning/Sightings vibes where it looked/felt like a Black Flag show with dudes thrashing around on instruments and people sweating all over, but sounded like a garbage truck eating a smaller garbage truck.

― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten)

I think about this post a lot

sleeve, you're in luck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZXOdpxYjeg

ever since the noise kids became ravers i miss going to a warehouse shows and watching a shirtless man stab an amplifier with a microphone for ten minutes

xp cool show, shame about the audience

lol tonight is Merzbow and Prurient show in Oakland --whiney did you go to the show where you are?

its tmrw

ha geeta sez she will see you there

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hpk157icl0lgsfz/American%20Noise-Punk.zip?dl=0

24-hour zip file re-up of all three volumes PLUS the unreleased Vol. 0, tracing the moment's 90s ROOTS AND INFLUENCES in powerviolence, AmRep/Skin Graft noise rock, SF tribal nonsense and weirdo rock, U.S. noise vanguards, no wave, Gravity/Vermiform art-hardcore and embryonic Rhode Island.

American Noise-Punk Vol. 0 (1993-1998)
1. Harry Pussy - Youth Problem
2. Couch - Old Man
3. Dropdead - I Will Defy
4. Born Against - I Am A Idiot
5. Godheadsilo - Precipice of Ice
6. Hammerhead - Swallow
7. U.S. Maple - Letter To ZZ Top
8. Caroliner - Salt Lumps
9. Universal Order of Armageddon - Clear Set
10. Crash Worship - Wild Mountain
11. Quintron - 005 Take Off the Wet Suits
12. To Live And Shave In L.A. - Lee Krasner 1949
13. Bunnybrains - (I'm In The) Bucket (Keith)
14. Man is the Bastard - Puppy Mill
15. Fat Day - Chigger
16. Chickita - Leave My House
17. Duotron - What!
18. Six Finger Satellite - Parlour Games
19. Brainiac - Vincent Come on Down
20. Thee Hydrogen Terrors - Mexico
21. Forcefield - Pac
22. Men's Recovery Project - Our Alaskan Brothers
23. The Scissor Girls - Vamps, Here!
24. The Flying Luttenbachers - Murder Machine Muzak
25. Crom-Tech - Queltrom-Victorm
26. Antioch Arrow - Chaos vs. Cosmos
27. Arab On Radar - Attack on Tijuana
28. Lake Of Dracula - Plague of Frogs
29. Deerhoof - A-Town Test Site
30. Olneyville Sound System - This Is Entertainment
31. Zeek Sheck - Beeper Gets Digested
32. Gerty Farish - Hey Seth, Why So Blue?
33. Replikants - They Will Get You
34. Cock E.S.P. - Scorn Lords
35. Lightning Bolt - LB.3.K6K3GU3.GO

thanks!

luscious, thank you

Many many thanks

hell yes just in time for summer road trips with the fam

Also, yes, I put a song I play drums on, which is a cornball move, but I couldn't resist.

lol <3

so sick. thx Whiney

Oh wow, thanks, downloading rn.

Vol. 0 is exactly what I want to be hearing in a vaccine hangover.

yeah psyched to listen to this, thanks. its funny, i used to love quintron but never occurred to me to slot him in w/that scene for whatever reason, but of course it makes total sense

i've played drums in bands with several of the Vol. 0 people ... feels like another life.

Thread Connection: this thread and "inevitable ilxors in their forties"

Matador wouldn't release the video because hal Ashby had lawyers

https://vimeo.com/12280161