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ostensibly, this is a classic or dud thread. but i also wondered if anyone is going to see them on saturday night at the toynbee hall, E1

― gareth, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

well, I only have Lapsed and Dilate, but they both seem pretty damn good to me. (was actually considering going to this gig, but I have a- levels in two weeks time or something equally insane so probably shouldn't - anyway, a few hours in my company has been driving people insane recently...)

bill

― Bill, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Bardo Pond. Hmmm. Live: a total classic, especially if you stand right up against the speakers at the ULU like I did at the Matador- fest two years ago. On record, I'm not so sure. The two albums I own (Lapsed and Set and Setting) are wonderful approximately two-thirds of the time, the remaining third being unengagingly messy. The production on those two albums doesn't help much either, being a mite too lo-fi in places to really immerse me in the sound.

I'd be at the gig like a shot under normal circumstances, but I've got a couple of prior commitments on Saturday.

― Richard Tunnicliffe, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Love 'em, but I haven't yet heard the new album (I have it sitting around, though). A friend says that the switch in drummer is a problem, so who knows? In any event, I'll be seeing them open for Mogwai next month, which is my idea of a grand double-bill.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Definitely going to that. I also had remember them being fantastic at the Matador ULU event, but yeah, they've never quite matched up to their live form on record. It's actually in the Curtain Theatre (which I think is the same thing as the Toynbee hall) Is the venue seated I wonder? Can't make up my mind if seats would be a good thing or a bad thing.

― Jonathan, Wednesday, 16 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

yeh i wondered if it would be seated. seats are always a bad thing

― gareth, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Saw them live at the Matador Records show a few years (one year...) ago. Very drony. Like Mogwai without the range. Still pretty good tho.

B-

― JM, Saturday, 19 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

so, anyone go?

didn't make it in the end for, uhh, reasons. saw them yr before last though at po na na islington and they were excellent. far better live than on record. though they are good on record. set and setting, and lapsed are very good albums but tend to suffer from half- ace half-mediocre problems. didn't like amanita at all, haven't heard new one yet.

― gareth, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Haven't seen them live but I own Set and Setting- and it's a great album- can't see what the problem with the production is. It's a blast! and I'm happy they are around.

― julio, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

New Bardo Pond!

I want to buy, you can only persuade me not to.

― Leee (Leee), Thursday, 17 July 2003 03:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

buy it, it is so so so so so so so very good, like doing bong hits with god.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 17 July 2003 07:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

I am an atheist who doesn't dig drugs. Explain.

― Leee (Leee), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 19:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

Well, so am I, Leee, but it IS all about feeling like you had.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 20:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

have seen them live since that post. marvellous (I have a crush on that singer => everyone must have their drone crush i guess).

doubt I'll be getting it tho'. Can't see how much better/worse they can get (and my head is somewhere else in 2003).

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 20:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

Wonderful band. Haven't heard everything, but Set & Setting, Amanita, Bufo Alvarius, and Lapsed are terrific. Side project Hash Jar Tempo is also great, as it includes the guitar stylings of Roy Montgomery.

― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 20:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

Saw them Sunday night. Similar funeral and apocalyptic set to Terrastock last year. I loved it.

― Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 21:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

I am an atheist who doesn't dig drugs.

so am i.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 22 July 2003 22:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

They were pretty good when they opened for Sonic Youth last year. What's the best place to start? Set and Setting?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 01:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

Amanita remains my favorite of the actual albums, Set and Setting is good in a different way given the focus on Isobel's semi-beat poet vocals.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 01:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

yes Amanita rulz

Ned - while Set and Setting is one of only two BP albums I've never heard, I really don't get the 'beat' thing - what song on S&S is a good example?

― roger adultery, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 01:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

Hmph, now I have to go and listen to it again to pick something specific! It's really more a crit cliche than anything else I admit -- the other comparison point everyone said was Kim Gordon, but I think that was more because everyone was thinking, "Wow, female sing/speak over guitar noise! Only one other woman does that!" Which is pretty demeaning to both of them.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 01:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

No, I don't think the Gordon comparison is off. The timbres are very similar, that reedy-yet-powerful "no frills" contralto. My favourite reference, however, is... Peter Hammill, especially during the "Quiet Zone" phase: the double tracked heterophony!

― nestmanso (nestmanso), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 02:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

Well, you're selling me with that one.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 02:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Ok, so I'm jonesing for the Volume sets, particularly the first two. I want trade and stuff.

― Leee (Leee), Thursday, 7 August 2003 00:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

You can get the Volume's on SoulSeek pretty easily.. I've got the first one, the second one and the fourth one.. the third one has eluded me thus far. If you have no luck finding them there, e-mail me and I can burn you some CDs or we can trade or something.

― Ian Johnson (elmo oxygen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 00:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

I have all the mp3s, but being a purist (or wannabe audiophile) I'd prefer to get the real CDRs. Though it's a good question: are the 'official' CDRs burned from mp3s?

― Leee (Leee), Thursday, 7 August 2003 04:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Urgghh.... I totally spaced on On The Ellipse for those year end threads. Wow. But that one should be up there. This band was amazing when I saw them in either very late August or very early September (first show I went to in NY--at Northsix). It's good in a way that requires drugs though--stupid self-congratulatory stoner talk. Kinda troooo, though.

S: "Night of Frogs" ; "Despite The Roar" ; the long one on Bufalo Alvarius Amen.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 9 January 2004 01:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

i'd really like to see them somewhere i could lay on the floor and close my eyes. i regret not seeing them in an acquaintance's apartment when i had the chance.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 9 January 2004 04:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

i would like to see them in an acquaintance's aquarium if i had the chance.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

I had the once in a life time opportunity to see Bardo Pond headline an outdoor show extremely odd lineup (Peaches, Bonnie Prince Billy w/ Mick Turner = Gitan Jali, Ramblin' Jack Elliot, The Holmes Brothers, Jello Biafra, Mamadou Diabate, Santiago Jiminez, Jr., Nels Cline Singers, Faust & Shortee) at this free benefit for public power a few summers ago (circa set and setting) and the organizer had arranged it so that while Bardo Pond played, the sun set behind the golden gate bridge in the background... it was really amazing.

during sonic youth's set at all tomorrow's parties at UCLA a few years ago, a man and a woman behind me mentioned something about not being able to see so I stepped aside and offered to stand behind them instead and i automatically recognized them as clint and isobel from BP. i mentioned to them the above show and they said it was the most rewarding show they've ever played due to the "setting"(my quotes and bad pun).

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

hahaha. hipster fandom!!!! i < 3 u gygfax.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

dude, it was mellow and they were (no offense to BP!) probably surprised to be recognized.

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:39 (9 years ago) Permalink

exactly!!!!!! it's a COOL THING.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

Bardo have so much non-album stuff out there, it's taking me back to the early internet days of tracking things down I'M A FANBOY AGAIN ZAH!

― Leee Majoraccoca (Leee), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

and omg I'm in the middle of Euphrates and OMG!

― Leee Majoraccoca (Leee), Friday, 9 January 2004 07:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

omg so i lost my copy of volume 2! someone send me one over AIM!

― Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

OMG!

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 28 March 2005 02:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

Ok so I found a used copy of Bufo Alvarius, and "Adhesive" rips my head off, but the rest of the album I find shambling. That includes "Amen." Why do people like "Amen," when "From the Sky" is more the much better?

― Organized Crime (Leee), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 19:06 (8 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Vol. VI is awesome! Best of the series, I think: laid-back, blissful drone with monsters creeping just underneath.

― Leeeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

Bah, I didn't even realize there was a Vol. V

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

I'm listening to a Vapour Theories gig and DUUUUUUUUDE.

― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 14 October 2005 23:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

OMG!!!!

― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 14 October 2005 23:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

love is new album

― bardo bardot, Saturday, 15 October 2005 05:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

ANTICIPATE.

― c(''c) (Leee), Friday, 23 December 2005 20:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

Can't wait!

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 23 December 2005 20:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Destroying Angel" ... GREAT choice for the opener.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 23 December 2005 20:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

What's REALLY good is that Third Troll disc. Yall heard that shit?

― roger, Friday, 23 December 2005 22:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

Third Troll is aight but I like Vapour Theories and 500mg better!

― c(''c) (Leee), Friday, 23 December 2005 23:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

*wets himself*

yah

― rizzx (Rizz), Friday, 23 December 2005 23:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

Now I get to interview them!

― c(''c) (Leee), Saturday, 24 December 2005 05:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

Skipping 33 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Lapsed is my favourite as well, but I'd also recommend Bufo Alvarius and the already mentioned Amanita. I'm very anxious to hear Peri. For some reason I could never really get into the ATP albums of late.

― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 June 2009 09:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

yea lapsed is my favorite, too, and was also my introduction to them. amanita's good too but i never got into it as much as lapsed. been meaning to hear the others for a while. i think emusic has most of them

― mark cl, Tuesday, 30 June 2009 12:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

bardo pond up in this mf!

― everybody on ilx u have dandruff (Pillbox), Monday, 22 March 2010 02:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

AMANITA is such a classic

like all time

― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 28 March 2010 07:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

Best thing about finding out there's a new album released on 6 Dec is that I don't have to wait very long to hear it.

― Leeeline Supplement No. 74 (Leee), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nope indeed.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here is the, uh, album cover:

― Leeeline Supplement No. 74 (Leee), Sunday, 5 December 2010 03:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

amazing cover. had no idea there was a new one coming out. i admit i haven't been keeping up closely with their records, side-projects, archival releases and what have you, maybe as much as i should. but yes, one of my favorites.

― not everything is a campfire (ian), Monday, 6 December 2010 22:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's on Spotify.

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

How have Yankees gotten this? Just order it direct from Fire?

― Leeeline Supplement No. 74 (Leee), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 05:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

some dude i was talking to on slsk about a year ago showed me tommy gun angel and i was just like whoa fuck awesome guitar tone

― jumpskins, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 06:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like to think that is everyone's reaction on hearing "tommy gun angel" the first time; it was certainly mine

― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 10:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm one song into the new album ("Just Once") ... and it's already AMAZING.

― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 10 December 2010 12:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is a really heavy album, probably their heaviest ever.

― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 10 December 2010 13:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

where can i buy this?

― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

opening track is truly heavy and great, though i'm not really feeling the softer tracks on this yet.

― sonderangerbot, Friday, 10 December 2010 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmm okay, fire records... UK, right?

any word on a potential US release? are they still with ATP?

― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 10 December 2010 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

"just once" is a really nice closing credits at the end of the world desert blues noise dirge. exactly what i want to hear right now. "cracker wrist" is hitting me too. sounds straight out of a crazy horse jam session in neil's barn

― kamerad, Friday, 10 December 2010 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Listening so far, I'm not feeling it so much, but that may be because I am not listening LOUD enough.

― Leeeline Supplement No. 74 (Leee), Saturday, 11 December 2010 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

did they get a new drummer?

― j., Tuesday, 14 December 2010 02:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

This is totally badass, sounds a bit more like Grails than what I've heard from them before, tho' tbh I'm not 100% up on all of BP's music.

― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 January 2011 06:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wonder how I missed this. Like someone above, I'm one song in and kinda floored. Haven't been super thrilled with them of late, but am suddenly very interested.

― dlp9001, Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tis very good and coincidentally i just put this album on Spotify about 5 mins before the thread revive

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

does Bill Magill dig Bardo Pond?

― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 26 February 2011 00:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dunno but black sabbath "changes" just came on shuffle about 5 sec before i clicked this thread and saw bill magill's name O_O

― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Saturday, 26 February 2011 03:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lolz

― hapshash jar tempo (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 26 February 2011 03:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

A few months down the line, the first song "Just Once" is possibly my favorite thing they've ever done and still in heavy rotation. After that, it's sort of downhill, but a slow and gently sloping downhill. "Sleeping" reminds me, of all things, of something from the Nadja soundtrack that I love so much. Floaty spacy drones in the background, etc. Watching live videos of them is weird. On the one hand, I'm aware that they're hippies, but listening to the albums it's possible to overlook that...

― dlp9001, Saturday, 19 March 2011 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just got into this record too, loving it.

― sleeve, Saturday, 19 March 2011 23:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

i neeed this still! glad to hear u guys liking it

― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Sunday, 20 March 2011 02:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Favorite song off this would probably be The Stars Behind...

Ticket Crystals is a really good album as well...

― I may be wrong but I think his name is Husher (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 20 March 2011 03:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

(...not as good as this one though)

― I may be wrong but I think his name is Husher (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 20 March 2011 03:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Think I have to turn in my Bardo badge, I can't get into the new one (or Ticket Crystals for that matter). T_T

― Esteban Buttezface (Leee), Friday, 25 March 2011 04:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

The two songs of theirs that I like the best (Inside and Just Once) both start out acoustic and ramshackle and then tighten up into drone-monsters. Kind of wonder if I've missed any, given their kind of large number of releases...

― dlp9001, Friday, 25 March 2011 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

there are songs--the long droney kind ("undone" for sure, but also "fc II" and "night of frogs")--where it doesn't work as listening to music per se...listening to undone just kind of makes me feel like I'm hanging out on a rowboat in the middle of a still pond watching the moon's reflection or something...y'know it's music for people who want to hang out in swamps but don't want to be eaten by mosquitoes...

my favorite songs on the new one are "The Stars Behind" and "Just Once", so maybe those are the ones that are the easiest to get, Leee...?

― Destroy A. Monsters (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 March 2011 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

ticket crystals was a bit of a snooze... still waiting to hear the new one, sounds promising, though!

― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Friday, 25 March 2011 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

"just once" rules

― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 25 March 2011 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

using "snooze" as an insult? maybe Bardo Pond is not the band for you...

― Destroy A. Monsters (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 March 2011 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

pfffft! one of my favorites

― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Friday, 25 March 2011 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOL j/k

this album is def. more atmospheric than, say, tuneful though...more of a subconscious album, doesn't rear its full majesty until it's off in the background

― Destroy A. Monsters (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 March 2011 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

(Pretentious Opinions R Us)

― Destroy A. Monsters (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 25 March 2011 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

my favorite songs on the new one are "The Stars Behind" and "Just Once", so maybe those are the ones that are the easiest to get, Leee...?

"Stars Behind" for sure! But I'm far less of a fan of the shambling-acoustic-into-drone-monster Bardo than a lot of people, so "Just Once" only tries my patience.

Also, "FCII" = "Montana Sacra II" right? That one kills me, one of the few that do on Ticket Crystals, actually. ("FCII" was the track's name on the promo, btw... /nudgenudge)

this album is def. more atmospheric than, say, tuneful though...

Hm, maybe? I know we're talking relatively here, but they've always been atmospheric (I call it textural) even on the albums that I love most.

― Esteban Buttezface (Leee), Saturday, 26 March 2011 19:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

Saw Bardo Pond play last night and they blew me away. So good!! Ned - any chance of an allmusic review/rating of their latest record?

― Smithy, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh man, that was in Brighton right? Missed that, great to hear they were good though. Good turn out?

― Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

You know, I was trying to review that earlier this year...

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yes, in Brighton. Not a bad turn out. Circle were also playing in Brighton last night which probably divided the psych rock masses. My first Bardo Pond live experience and they didn't disappoint.

― Smithy, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

Why am I only now realizing that "Undone" is such a monster???

― omar 13337713 (Leee), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 00:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

i dont know!

― black Emanuelle did costume design for Troll 2 (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 00:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

that whole album is grand. did a great job with the vinyl too.

― Crackle Box, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

― ( -- ( .) - ( .) / (am0n), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Listening to Vol. 7 -- sweet. Anyone know if it's still available through the website/mail order thing?

― Nothing cracks a turtle like Leeeon Uris (Leee), Saturday, 28 July 2012 21:50 (9 months ago) Permalink

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