Selena Gomez is Good For You

I'm digging "Look At Her Now" (both song and video).

always had a weak spot for selena gomez. love the ballad.

"look at her now" is decent but "lose you to love me" does nothing for me

^^^ this but the opposite of it

I actually like both for different reasons. They’re definitely not as good as Bad Liar / Fetish were.

Btw are all of these singles supposed to end in the same album? Or were they just released for streaming as standalone songs?

if one becomes a hit with staying power (seems likely for "lose you to love me" currently) an album will be announced. if not there won't be and they'll remain standalone singles. this is how it works now

tho occasionally even a smash hit single will lead to no album announcement and will end up being standalone (e.g. halsey "without me")

oh jk i guess halsey eventually announced an album w/ "without me" on it, but way way after the fact (+ after followup singles had already bombed and been downgraded to standalone)

I mean it makes sense specially in pop as in electronic music to just release a song when it’s finished, if you wait too long until a whole album is finished the trends you were trying to set and/or follow might have shifted. There’s not that many people that still buy physical albums or even play an album instead of standalone songs, specially with youtube and playlist culture.

Selena stans are swarming Lizzo on Twitter, b/c their singles are dueling on the iTunes US chart, and Lizzo tweeted a request for more dl’s to get her track to #1.

Also, it's easier for pop stars to bounce back from a bad single as opposed to a bad album cycle. Katy Perry has also just shifted to dropping random singles after the disaster that was Witness.

twitter standom is profoundly silly at best and toxic at worst. like really, dogpiling someone because of the itunes chart. in 2019? digital download sales volumes are way too low to mean much these days.

poor katy perry. it's like people stopped fucking with her music heavy as soon as she stopped having seemingly effortless success

Yeah, the numbers at issue here for each track are around 1,000 sales (in 24 hrs.)

Now, THIS one I like!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia1iuXbEaYQ

(The album is out today.)

F%^&, this is a good track

Try "Dance Again.

I'm not digging that one as much.....

"Crowded Room" (feat. 6LACK) is nice. Her voice is so thin -- I think the more minimalist tracks suit it best, somehow.

I think I'm allergic to her sonic preferences ("Bad Liar" excepted)

not feeling this but it was prob the wrong move to listen to it after the poppy record

like Ariana Grande, she's taken with brevity, to my relief.

I am pretty into this

I'm taken with the way she and her producers use bass.

omg i'm excited, i was just talking about her this AM

I'm taken with the way she and her producers use bass.

Me too

"Fun" is also a kinda cool track. I feel like she goes in a for a lot of Swift-isms...

Nothing else on here comes close to the opening track for me (sadly)!

That calypso-ish beat just kills me

new album is really good!

really into Crowded Room

bottom heavy album for sure! i'm into it!

not enough explicit criticism of the male gaze for me tbh - while there's something despairing (and desperate) about the way she sings + the synth drone, it still seems all too besotted with phallocentricity of objectification

It's Selena Gomez ffs, not Huggy Bear.

gimme more phallocentricity with a side of objectification

The Target version of this CD tacks on “Bad Liar,” “Fetish,” “Wolves,” and a few others. It’s tempting...

Love this on first listen.

it's really very solid, if a little quaint. still, it's her signature. it works!

Found myself in Target with some extra $$, so... I’ve been listening to the CD as I drive around today. After the fantastic opening track, it’s pretty mediocre (IMO) until around track 9 or 10 — where it hits a good, final stretch. She’s such a limited vocalist; the best tracks find a way to take advantage of what she offers (in addition to just being good songs).

The Target CD is worth buying for the bonus tracks (FYI, it’s $11.99 on Target.com; they’ll price-match in store).

Just want to back up Johnny Fever who very early on praised “Lose You To Love Me” which sounds so incredible to me while playing through this as a whole. You were an early adopter and it is truly amazing.

kind of a martina topley-bird feel to this, maybe? track more than vocal

i was just going to ask how people rate "lose you to love me" now, several months later. admittedly i never really warmed to it.

It does nothing for me, I’m surprised it performed so well. Clearly I don’t have my finger on the pulse, lol

i was just going to ask how people rate "lose you to love me" now, several months later. admittedly i never really warmed to it.

― dyl, Sunday, January 12, 2020 1:52 AM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

still an extremely boring piano ballad propped up by an unconvincing fake narrative

Im kind of a sucker for this sort of a ballad. Anyway, didn't mean to start anything but sounds beautiful to me. Loving "Rare" and "Crowded Room" too.

Whoa - there’s a songwriter demo of “Rare” that sounds almost identical(?)

there usually are, the question is whether they ever become public

i like lose you to love me cuz i just went thru a breakup and i totally feel her sentiment

xp Does that mean the credited producers on the track also probably worked on the demo (for it to be so fully produced, with all the same sonic touches etc.)?

Wow! Just finishing up my first listen though this. Think there may have been a couple plodding pop-by-numbers kinda tracks in the middle, but the last few tracks are strong! Good record to start off the year with.

the last few tracks are strong! to the point where i start thinking i'm really getting into the album and then it's over lol

Yep! The singles are the weakest links imo

in today's country industry a large proportion of hits are written and produced entirely without the input of the artists that go on to record them... so it's quite common for demos submitted for consideration by artists/management/a&r to be essentially completed tracks w/ v high production values, all the bells 'n' whistles, etc, just w/o the artist's vocal. i remember reading an interview with a (non-artist) songwriter or producer about how that goes, and how the nearly-finished quality of such demos is almost considered necessary to stand out among all the other submissions.

i assume the situation is similar in pop as well, at least when it comes to pitching to artists who contribute little-to-nothing as songwriters (tho in some cases the recording artist will also end up getting credited as a songwriter even if the finished product doesn't differ at all from the demo besides the vocal)

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