Apple Music - anyone heard of it? Or not, I don't care.

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best plan imo. i'm persevering because (a) it's still free and (b) this is all a test setup, with all my proper music safely on an old phone.

what baffles me most is how the world's richest company can release this galloping train wreck and then just leave it for six weeks and not say anything.

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 11:18 (eight years ago) link

I'm currently using it on a desktop (PC) and an iPad mini and it's all syncing fine - playlists, my music, all that malarkey. I've not had to mess with too much metadata, though I am adding some grouping data, which does seem to be syncing fine as well. I've also been able to add stuff to my iPod as usual (from the PC, obvs). I've got an Android phone, so haven't come across any mobile issues (by default). Will be intrigued as to how the mooted Android app copes.

Poacher (Chinaski), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 12:19 (eight years ago) link

so weird how some people have had no problems whatsoever. it'd make sense if i'd seen one or two bugs that might be overlooked, but i've hit at least half a dozen super-critical bugs that make it unusable. apart from live streaming, not a single function works.

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 12:27 (eight years ago) link

As mentioned up thread, I have had issues, but maybe I've had more that I'm not aware of or just don't care that much about right now. Like my compilations are just a mess. I'm just going to leave them be for right now and fix then once Apple fixes some bugs with matching. I have plenty of music that is working just fine to listen to until then, especially now that my massive playlist is almost all available offline now.

Jeff, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link

I'm just so happy to have the loved feature and corresponding smart playlist, even though there are still bugs with that as well. If spotify hadn't removed the starred feature, i'd probably still be using it.

Jeff, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 13:33 (eight years ago) link

I also don't worry about my library getting fucked up either because I have it backed up in triplicate in various places, onsite and off. Worst case scenario, I just revert back.

Jeff, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

same

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 13:47 (eight years ago) link

the double-entry issue where it's showing two copies of the same song in an album is really annoying. seems to be partially an artifact of iTunes Match.

also it really screws up different versions of songs. if I'm listening to an album, the album version of that song should be in the listing instead of missing because I own the single. also it shouldn't be playing a different version of the song I own instead of the one that belongs to that album.

Upright Mammal (mh), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link

apple music and itunes match sound great!

š¯” š¯”˛š¯”¢š¯”Ø (caek), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

tbh the rest is really nice, can grab all my stuff everywhere, download speeds are fast, listening to dr. dre's radio show right now because i'm an old person

Upright Mammal (mh), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/08/apple-releases-ios-8-4-1-mostly-with-fixes-for-apple-music/

Resolves issues that could prevent turning on iCloud Music Library
Resolves an issue that hides added music because Apple Music was set to show offline music only
Provides a way to add songs to a new playlist if there aren't any playlists to choose from
Resolves an issue that may show different artwork for an album on other devices
Resolves several issues for artists while posting to Connect
Fixes an issue where tapping Love doesn't work as expected while listening to Beats 1

Jeff, Thursday, 13 August 2015 20:53 (eight years ago) link

too late, apple, too late

Spottie, Thursday, 13 August 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link

"tapping Love doesn't work as expected"
takes me back to my college days of playing Magic and not getting laid

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 August 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link

Resolves an issue where we forgot to finish building it

outstanding

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 13 August 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link

it's already deleted half an album i downloaded half an hour ago. excellent.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 13 August 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link

yeah this is not fixed. it thinks new forms 2 is the same as new forms 1 and just didn't bother downloading half the tracks.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 13 August 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link

There's also a new iTunes update out, 12.2.2

Jeff, Friday, 14 August 2015 00:25 (eight years ago) link

So glad i've waited to try out Apple Music. Jumping right into a new platform that hasn't been tested is not a smart move.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 14 August 2015 02:40 (eight years ago) link

yeah this is not fixed. it thinks new forms 2 is the same as new forms 1 and just didn't bother downloading half the tracks.

when i play new forms 2 streamed from apple music, it plays the right songs. when i play the same album from "my music" (icloud music library), it throws in all the songs off new forms 1, even though the tracks lengths are correct for new forms 2. so it knows they're different songs and it even offers the different songs for streaming, but because i have the album it's playing the wrong tracks. apparently the only way i can download the correct album for offline play is to delete my copy from itunes at home. so what is the actual point.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 14 August 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link

if you delete all your local music and rely entirely on apple music, offline mode would probably work loads better. but then it couldn't do full "for you" recommendations because it wouldn't know everything you like.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 14 August 2015 03:06 (eight years ago) link

One shitty thing in the iPad app is not being able to view playlists in album view, ie I've got a 'current favourites' playlist or whatever, into which I stick 40/50/60 albums, but I can only view them as songs/as a long list, as opposed to the 'album' view available in the desktop version.

Excuse the tortured syntax, I appear to be having a breakdown.

Poacher (Chinaski), Friday, 14 August 2015 12:55 (eight years ago) link

Maybe the most annoying thing about this is when you press play, and it plays for a second and then pauses itself.

calstars, Friday, 14 August 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link

Maybe the most annoying thing about this is when you press play, and it plays for a second and then pauses itself.

ā€• calstars, Friday, August 14, 2015 7:59 AM

This - why in the Hell does my phone not play a track that is fully downloaded to iTunes app w/o having a buffering-like break. Also, Spotify Premium kicks AMusic's ass so hard when it comes to wireless streaming performance. Even on the Mac OS X iTunes interface performance has degraded, IMHO.

BlackIronPrison, Friday, 14 August 2015 13:24 (eight years ago) link

i have worked out that even offline tracks stop if you move between wifi and mobile data.

Fizzles, Friday, 14 August 2015 20:13 (eight years ago) link

Hmmm, you can get to the original version of "New Rose" via Apple's "Intro to the Damned" playlist, but trying to get to the album Damned Damned Damned from there just gets an error message. Every day it's just some new fuckup.

rack of lamb of god (WilliamC), Friday, 14 August 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link

as good as the suggested playlists are (45 minutes of ~stuff produced by magoo~ is an excellent idea), spotify's tendency to go "here's 40 alt rock classics from the '90s" or "study with these electronic beats for nine and a half hours" is a hell of a lot more fun. apple music's equivalent is still great, and i like that apple's budgeted for more human curators in office cubicles, but it feels like more effort on my part to save a load of fairly short suggested playlists.

apple music is also re-recommending playlists to me. every day it's giving me fewer new suggestions. i didn't really need that intro to my favourite band the first time, let alone five more times after i've already played and removed it.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 14 August 2015 22:33 (eight years ago) link

xp the fact that it took them six weeks to not fix much indicates they've got mega-serious problems beyond a list of bugs. someone's got to be losing a job over this thing.

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 14 August 2015 22:38 (eight years ago) link

is heart's self-titled on apple music? can't tell

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 15 August 2015 02:36 (eight years ago) link

doesn't appear to be

Autumn Almanac, Saturday, 15 August 2015 03:08 (eight years ago) link

Holding off on making any decision on this until iOS 9 and 10.11.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 15 August 2015 03:58 (eight years ago) link

My quest to make my giant playlist available offline has hit a snag, my phone ran out of space... Which is interesting because I had the whole playlist offline on spotify, but came up 300 songs short this time. Are the AM files larger?

Jeff, Saturday, 15 August 2015 11:00 (eight years ago) link

what quality level did you have spotify set to though

Upright Mammal (mh), Saturday, 15 August 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link

Good question, I don't recall! Can you change that in AM?

Jeff, Saturday, 15 August 2015 21:25 (eight years ago) link

i think it's just stream vs download

spotify has a middle tier

Upright Mammal (mh), Saturday, 15 August 2015 21:26 (eight years ago) link

xp the fact that it took them six weeks to not fix much indicates they've got mega-serious problems beyond a list of bugs. someone's got to be losing a job over this thing.

It still pauses on a network state change, ffs. Pretty sure I know why that is, and it shouldn't be a massive fix so not getting it into 8.4.1 is pretty filthy.

stet, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link

that and so many other bugs should have been fixed inside a week, which makes me wonder just how bad the code base, db design, etc. are.

last night it wouldn't download a playlist. i reset the app, the phone, tried everything i could think of, but the songs kept spinning without downloading. half an hour later they spontaneously downloaded, along with an album it had already downloaded three times last week (so there are four copies of each song now).

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link

not sure whether good or bad tbh: http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150818005755/en#.VdNYBhNVhBc

Among people who had tried Apple Music, 48 percent reported they are not currently using the service.

Nearly two-thirds (64 percent) of current users said that they were extremely or very likely to pay to subscribe to Apple Music after their free trials end. On the other hand, 61 percent reported that they had already turned off the auto-renewal option in their iTunes account settings.

64% retention isn't exactly a disaster, but loads going out of their way to unsubscribe.

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 18 August 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

http://www.mcelhearn.com/apple-music-head-leaves-before-the-end-of-three-month-trial-period/

was wondering when this would start to happen

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 28 August 2015 12:43 (eight years ago) link

tidal and apple should switch execs every three months

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 August 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Showing only music on this iPhone. Show all music.

Ī¼pright mammal (mh), Thursday, 5 November 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link

http://www.cesium-app.com/

0 / 0 (lukas), Monday, 16 November 2015 22:35 (eight years ago) link

Showing only music on this iPhone. Show all music.

Infuriating.

skip, Monday, 16 November 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I'm done with this, Guess managing an offline itunes library alongside spotify isn't the worst thing in the world though

tsrobodo, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 08:54 (eight years ago) link

I don't miss spotify in the least. Have they brought back stars yet?

Jeff, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 11:56 (eight years ago) link

They're hearts now.

nashwan, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 12:04 (eight years ago) link

thankfully my two ipod classics are immune from this junk.

skip, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

iCloud library let's you go over 25k songs now. And iOS 9.2 released today with lots of AM improvements.

Jeff, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

like wut

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

desktop AM is much smoother after update, less delay for every click :)

dutch_justice, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 06:51 (eight years ago) link


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