Janet Jackson - Unbreakable - 2015

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But she's coming to Calgary!

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 15 June 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link

And Minneapolis! The part on "Escapade" where she shouts out Minneapolis still makes me cry.

geoffreyess, Monday, 15 June 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

"With Rhythm Nation Janet Jackson becomes arguably the first female African-American recording artist to form her own record label."

can we get a fact check on this?

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 June 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

"arguably"

Sylvia Robinson was a singer, songwriter and then started Sugarhill Records with her husband.

curmudgeon, Monday, 15 June 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link

yeah, sugarhill was the first thing that came to mind for me too.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 June 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

amped

surm, Monday, 15 June 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link

No DC, NYC or Boston gigs :(

curmudgeon, Monday, 15 June 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link

yea that sucks

surm, Monday, 15 June 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

No DC, NYC or Boston gigs :(

Tours get rolled out in stages. There's no way she won't be playing in those cities sooner or later.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:04 (eight years ago) link

yeah generally but there's also the potential for fatigue, tour not selling well, album leaking and replanned marketing...

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link

i'm feeling "no sleeep"

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 June 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_2_VgUdeq4

Yes. I'm unbelieeevably excited for all of this.

WE WANT FET WAP (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 June 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

Guessing this one will grow on me like "That's the Way Love Goes" did.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Monday, 22 June 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link

this is nice

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 June 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

Got fifth row tickets to Janet in Mpls too.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Monday, 22 June 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

for some reason i had trepidation about this entire comeback, maybe because that's my default reaction to most comebacks by legends, but ooooooooo this song is really properly great

lex pretend, Monday, 22 June 2015 20:07 (eight years ago) link

ooh new song is so goood

bunny slopes, Monday, 22 June 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link

love this, very much looking forward to the album. both this and the video clip one have such luscious Rhodes.

lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 22 June 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

good tune

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 June 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

killin me softly. def felt the that's the way love goes vibes.

surm, Monday, 22 June 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

A nice counterpart to "When We Oooo" lulling me to sleeep the other night.

Eric H., I'll nod toward you from the cheap seats.

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 03:32 (eight years ago) link

I love understated Janet so much.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 04:17 (eight years ago) link

^SAME

surm, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 23:23 (eight years ago) link

this slays

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 11:59 (eight years ago) link

I like how she debuts with a slow one instead of trying to impress the kids with a banger for which she might be accused of sounding "dated."

also: "Lonely" and "Making Love in the Rain" are good influences.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:06 (eight years ago) link

the nod to "go deep" in the title can't be unintentional, right?

lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:35 (eight years ago) link

i'd imagine not

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 June 2015 13:46 (eight years ago) link

yeah I bee thinking that too

WE WANT FET WAP (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:28 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ugh, "No Sleeep" didn't need J. Cole.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 24 July 2015 05:49 (eight years ago) link

ayo i got tickets!!! like super nosebleeds but going w/ my favorite co-worker and it's going to be so fucking fun no matter what

Y Kant Max Read (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 24 July 2015 12:26 (eight years ago) link

Ugh, "No Sleeep" didn't need J. Cole.

― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid)

I saw J. Cole and Jeremih available in a two-for-one package at Target the other day.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 July 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link

no sleep is pretty insipid. the come-ons in the lyrics sound completely tired and workwoman-like. why is anyone excited about this? and i used to be a massive janet fan.

StillAdvance, Friday, 24 July 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

You have heard the stuff that made you a "used to be" fan right? That "No Sleeep" isn't 20 Y.O. is cause for celebration.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

Also, it's chill af.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link

yeah the fact that it's kind of pleasant and unassuming and maybe, if we're being generous, more in line with her '90s midtempo stuff, is pretty reassuring just because she was really flailing around stylistically with those last few albums. curious to see what the rest of the record sounds like and if this is just a buzz single for something else soon to come.

teenage good-ass kinja turtles (some dude), Friday, 24 July 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link

I love it -- exactly what I wanted. She and Jam-Lewis are settling into the comeback instead of jumping someone else's train.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 July 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link

it like legitimately gets better every time i listen to it

I love that sample in the bridge.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 24 July 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

and she says "fait accompli"!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 July 2015 17:15 (eight years ago) link

http://share.gifyoutube.com/KzxGpb.gif

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

“Interlude: Hey Baby” robbed.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Friday, 24 July 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link

I hope the album drops before the tour starts.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 24 July 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

Just The Interludes playlist courtesy of my gurl Mickey

http://open.spotify.com/user/mickeyvetter/playlist/6uqYGH1XryLxXE9PGTQwqA

Y Kant Max Read (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 26 July 2015 00:42 (eight years ago) link

okay, i am fairly certain i never listened to 2008's "Discipline" and I did not know it existed.
anyone have anything good to say about it?

you are extreme, Patti LuPone. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 26 July 2015 00:44 (eight years ago) link

"Rock With U" is stellar but it's all I know from that album

Y Kant Max Read (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 26 July 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

I remember liking "Feedback."

jaymc, Sunday, 26 July 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link

I liked "Feedback" fine.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 July 2015 21:56 (eight years ago) link

Would've pruned one or two songs off side two of this album, but otherwise it's so much more consistent than I expected from her by now.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Monday, 5 October 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link

"Well Traveled" feels like Janet covering The Lumineers

"Gon' B Alright" in comparison is like a lightning bolt, definitely enhanced due to following an outright slog

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 5 October 2015 22:45 (eight years ago) link

I like that they make Janet's voice sound like a squeezebox organ in "Well Traveled." Don't like the Lumineers undertones.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Monday, 5 October 2015 22:47 (eight years ago) link

Actually "Gon' Be Alright" sounds like Janet Jackson feat. Wondaland

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 5 October 2015 22:47 (eight years ago) link

or working with Saadiq in retro mode.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 5 October 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link

shoulda stopped the album after black eagle

Spottie, Monday, 5 October 2015 22:48 (eight years ago) link

"Black Eagle" into full version of "Promise" would've been perfect.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Monday, 5 October 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link

why is "Promise" only 57 seconds long

― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, October 5, 2015 3:32 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's a full track on the Target edition of the album.

lilsoulbrother, Monday, 5 October 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link

might have to get that then

Spottie, Monday, 5 October 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link

no sleep is the best cos of those dj quik-esque snare/claps

Spottie, Monday, 5 October 2015 23:00 (eight years ago) link

I'm still convinced he ghost-produced "Go Deep".

The Reverend, Monday, 5 October 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link

I thought "Runaway" was a better meta-comment on her stardom and her relationship w/a mass audience than "All For You," but maybe I love "The Glow of Love" too much for me settle.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, October 5, 2015 3:20 PM Bookmark

I've never liked "All For You" even slightly, but I immediately thought "Glow of Love" was amazing when I heard it years later. Really the only AFY single I like that much is "Someone to Be My Lover". "Doesn't Really Matter" is ok I guess. I didn't like it at the time. I guess AFY has had the disadvantage for me of coming out during my underground rap purist phase, so I've never been able to hear it with ears that were both fresh and open to it.

For my money, Damita Jo is her best post-Velvet Rope album.

The Reverend, Monday, 5 October 2015 23:09 (eight years ago) link

I'm still convinced he ghost-produced "Go Deep".

― The Reverend, Monday, October 5, 2015 4:04 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

definitely. until i hear him deny it I will believe it

Spottie, Monday, 5 October 2015 23:21 (eight years ago) link

man "well traveled" doesn't sound like the dang lumineers

fkn hell the full "promise of you" is MAGIC

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 12:02 (eight years ago) link

in general, re the all for you talk, i think this album is pretty comparable to it quality-wise, as is discipline, though the best songs on each of those are really different, as are the less compelling moments. all of them feel a bit overlong, it's not just that pruning them would have got rid of the inessential songs but made them a more coherent front-to-back experience - nothing post-AFY seems to merit its epic length to me

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 12:05 (eight years ago) link

it's funny what a 7-yr-hiatus will do though; there was a pre-release expectation for this to be Peak Janet which didn't exist for her last couple of albums

lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 12:06 (eight years ago) link

when she was hugely successful she released albums every 3-4 years, so the way she started releasing albums every 2 years as her sales were dropping really made it feel like a frantic flailing downward spiral. i think probably everyone needed some time away to miss her.

some dude, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

If only the same were true for Stevie Wonder's last few albums.

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

for janet: social media landscape changed drastically, cultural interests shifted, whole generation grew up without seeing her as anything but an oldies artist, lotsa reasons but also the album is amazing

a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

It's aight. A few really good songs but I think people are overrating this because they want to see Janet back on top.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 7 October 2015 22:17 (eight years ago) link

Yes, but it's also a great album with at least four amazing songs which is better than a 2015 janet album has any right to be imo.

a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link

nah i legitimately love this

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link

as uh evidenced by the thread.

prob my album of the year, don't really want to listen to anything else

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 22:58 (eight years ago) link

getting no sleep?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 23:12 (eight years ago) link

yes alfred

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 October 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link

RnR HoF nominated.

https://media.giphy.com/media/qRt4bcujgsj1S/giphy.gif

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 October 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link

and likely #1 next week

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 October 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

I think that right up until the penultimate song this is a great album. I don't think it is as good as the run from Control through The Velvet Rope. I will be featuring it in heavy rotation for the rest of the year.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 8 October 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link

Upthread I said there's no shame at all that Janet (or anyone else) will never match Control > RN1814 > janet. > Velvet Rope

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Thursday, 8 October 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

yeah that's an insane way to judge any artist including janet

J0rdan S., Thursday, 8 October 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link

"best since (but by no means as good as) the Velvet Rope" is her "best since Blood On The Tracks"

some dude, Thursday, 8 October 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

That list of Janet's laughs way upthread needs to be updated to include the one from "Broken Hearts Heal." A happier sound than any laugh since "The Sidewinder Sleeps Tonite."

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Saturday, 10 October 2015 17:07 (eight years ago) link

or a George W. Bush press conference circa 2003

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 October 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link

Poll: "heaven in the morning" vs. "coffee in the morning"

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Saturday, 10 October 2015 17:09 (eight years ago) link

I WOKE UP IN COFFEE IN THE MORNING

Norse Jung (Eric H.), Saturday, 10 October 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

haha

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Sunday, 11 October 2015 02:54 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Fun show in Minneapolis last night. Jam & Lewis were there, and the mayor declared it Janet Jackson Day. I would've liked to hear more of the new songs, but the only real disappointment was when the pre-show DJ played (apparently by accident) a few seconds of Jazmine Sullivan's "Let it Burn," then cut it short. It might've slowed the energy a bit but I was so itching to hear it.

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Monday, 2 November 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link

Bonus: Janet lip-syncing Kendrick as bits of "Poetic Justice" led into "Any Time Any Place."

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Monday, 2 November 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link

Loved this show so much more than the All For You tour.

thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Monday, 2 November 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...
three months pass...

my show went from Feb to August and now to like probably never?

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 14:06 (eight years ago) link

No word on whether Jackson, 49, and her husband, 41-year-old Qatari billionaire Wissam Al Mana, are looking to build their family the old-fashioned way or through other means.


Had no idea she had remarried, let alone to a Qatari billionaire.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 14:17 (eight years ago) link

what were ticket sales like i wonder?

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 14:20 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpUWrl3-mc8

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link

tickets are cheaper on stubhub now than they are from ticketmaster, or they were a few weeks ago

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link

bcz none of them sold out iirc?

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:31 (eight years ago) link

janet y do u braek heart

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link


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