RÓISÍN MURPHY

http://i.imgur.com/5qETyon.png

http://www.idolator.com/7577225/roisin-murphy-announces-new-album-and-live-shows-coming-soon

The Mi Senti EP was cool, yes, but I am unbelievably hyped for a new LP.

*punches air*

2015 is sure making up for 2014 isn't it

So excited for this. Can't believe Overpowered is almost eight years old!

Was hoping she'd sneak into the Top 77 tracks but it looks extremely unlikely now.

Excited for the album though

New track out and album announced:

http://pitchfork.com/news/58494-roisin-murphy-announces-hairless-toys-lp-shares-gone-fishing/

― daavid, Monday, February 16, 2015 4:10 PM (1 hour ago)

http://i.imgur.com/ym6Fsxp.jpg

01 Gone Fishing
02 Evil Eyes
03 Exploitation
04 Uninvited Guest
05 Exile
06 House of Glass
07 Hairless Toys (Gotta Hurt)
08 Unputdownable

Eight songs seems like not a lot after such a long wait, but maybe (I hope?) they're eight REALLY GOOD songs. "Gone Fishing" portends good things imo.

It's getting better with every listen. It may be my favorite song of the year so far.

It really is so good.

I especially love the pitch-shifting 'strings'

Just listened to it three times in a row, agree with daavid it's probably the best thing I've heard so far this year.

the songs are long - "Exploitation" cracks nine minutes acc to itunes

Anyway this song is great!

Going Fishing travels so many places in six minutes. I typically have "long-song ADD" but I sort of trust her to not let me down in this regard.

I like that it works out she's spent one year per song on this new album. Judging by Gone Fishing this album is going to be worth the wait.

http://www.factmag.com/2015/02/23/roisin-murphy-release-jealousy-12-crosstown-rebels/

"Ahead of Hairless Toys, her first solo album in eight years, Róisín Murphy has recorded a club-focused 12″ for Damian Lazarus’ Crosstown Rebels label."

There's not really much to the "house mix," a youtube of which is embedded at that link, but I'm quite interested in hearing the "disco mix".

somehow only just heard "jealousy" - it's amazing, both mixes, actually much more so than "gone fishing" which underwhelmed a bit in the end

And here's Exploitation... http://pitchfork.com/news/58951-roisin-murphy-shares-exploitation/

Don't know if it's amazing or insane. Or both.

Murphy occupies a unique position, the gay diva with a library, reclining before floor-to-ceiling shelves in interviews. Shes a nutter but she's our nutter.

I've probably said that about the Unabomber on other forums.

I'm a softer being.

(comma, after momentary sobriety), now.

I want to like the disco mix of "Jealousy" but hearing the sampled guitar from Ahzz's "New York's Moving" without the synths is killing me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud2epRXRFmU

The album is out there now. It's really beautiful.

oooh yes!

I'm still absorbing it but there are definitely a bunch of OMFG moments

Video for "Exploitation"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjSwFsPCeJ4#t=143

that video makes me want a boiled egg

album version is too long though (maybe)

this bangs and is weird

i.e. in character

I can't unsee Dolores O'Riordan.

i really don't know what i think of the album yet but it feels like she's tiptoeing around the concept somewhat. which she should, to be fair, because it's a minefield, but it ends up so careful. some very impressive moments w/r/t structure, arrangements etc but she never goes for it at any point? when "jealousy" comes on afterwards it feels a billion times more alive.

think the restraint contributes to the anxiety and tension kinda running unbrokenly through the whole record

"jealousy" is great obv but a different thing

re: the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLoyu9PcmBc

think the restraint contributes to the anxiety and tension kinda running unbrokenly through the whole record

i think it comes at the expense of any real emotional pull tbh. it's a very tasteful and accomplished concept album but it feels like RM knew that the entire thing had to be handled with care - straight white woman makes album explicitly and entirely about gay black men's experiences, how could it possibly go wrong - and it ended up a touch too sensitive, maybe. idk, i'm still getting to grips with it but i'm not exactly drawn to put it on much, and when i do i find myself appreciating it on a head level way more than on a heart level.

haven't yet seen an interview with her, would have pitched but it's not as if i know a huge amount about the paris is burning era either, lol

I was about to ask: where are you getting the info about the album? I'd love to read it.

the initial press bumpf i presume, not any in-depth feature

yeah the press release she wrote:

This song was written after I watched the documentary film Paris Is Burning, having read an article which referenced it in a discussion about House music's origins in black, gay culture. I was deeply moved by this film. 'I had to run this far from home' - it's about the outcasts who could never fit into mainstream society and how they created a safe place in the drag 'Ball' scene of New York in the ‘80s. 'Will we live on? The children of La Beija' refers to the 'house' of Pepper La Beija, who was one of the most notable figures on the scene, Pepper is also quoted in Malcolm McLaren's song on the same subject 'Deep In Vogue'. The culture was a flamboyant reaction to persecution and disillusionment, the imagination and bravery of these kids is simply awe-inspiring. I envisioned 'Gone Fishing' almost as a song from a Broadway musical version of this story. The making of one's own world, a safer world and the creation of a new, better family in music or youth culture is a theme I touch upon elsewhere on my album Hairless Toys.

straight white woman makes album explicitly and entirely about gay black men's experiences

afaict this only applies to "gone fishing"

i haven't studied the lyrics or anything but she seems to return to those themes pretty consistently throughout

hm well neither have i tbh

also it feels very weird at a time when the ballroom scene seems so healthy for RM to reference it so explicitly as an influence but not go anywhere near it sonically

Murphy's seems to have been adopted by the transgenderqueer (etc., I don't keep up) community for a while.

's (Video is one of several unofficial fan videos for "Simulation" featuring trangender peeps - parts might be unsafe for some workplaces)

i feel like the new record is kind of a sister (or cousin) to last year's mr twin sister album

Hmm, hadn't thought about that, but makes sense on the surface.

I'm definitely a fan of the straightforwardness of Overpowered. This one takes more dedication to love, like Ruby Blue did imo.

been listening to this a lot lately and came across a track-by-track where she basically confirms that only "gone fishing" is about balling, the rest is about her strange interior life. was surprised to find out "exploitation" is literally about sex but in retrospect it's obvious

anyway this is still one of my favorite records of the year, though it makes more sense as a follow up to ruby blue than overpowered. "unputdownable" prob one of my favorite love songs of all time at this point

do we have to post all this shit we already know how it goes

Is it interfering with the clear-eyed assessment of the album that you bookmarked this thread for?

Interestingly the one post that she's liked pertaining to this whole saga is this one...

You've just given an apology to Glinner. It undermines your claims to be against people exploiting LGBT people for their own ends.

You also have most of the press to back you up, so hardly some voice in the wilderness. All you're doing is making the world worse for LGBT people.

— Bjerkley (@Bjerkeley) September 5, 2023

According to the BBC yesterday, Rodrigo has sold more than the rest of the top ten combined

hey Andrew stfu

well what do you suggest we use the Roisin Murphy thread for

I agree that it's all very depressing and predictable but venting about that is p much all there is at the moment imo

idk kill it

or just post whatever and let me be pissy about it

Apologies, I forgot you're in charge of the thread.

According to the BBC yesterday, Rodrigo has sold more than the rest of the top ten combined

That sounds about right.

maybe worth considering why some people might be more invested than others xp

You more than anyone else, of course.

I was never more than a casual fan so rejecting the music was easy for me but now I have to hear about her terf baby steps every fucking day for some reason whereas before this I could go months without thinking of her (even though I liked who I imagined her to be)

and fuck you too tom

OK, you win, I won't post in the thread again. Happy?

of course not

It's quite easy, Left. You just don't need to click on this thread if you don't want to read about it.

fuck you too

I often get exhausted and depressed by ppl eagerly documenting every step of some person's assholeishness, have one friend in particular who does this a lot and it's a very pernicious variation on doomscrolling imo

that being said if I click on a thread about said asshole that's on me

no need to be depressed, it's fuck you Friday

if that person's movements have effects I need to protect myself from then it is in my interest to click even when I don't want to and you overestimate the extent of free will in this world

that said if it's just standard UK media autopilot bullshit with no new content I don't know why we need to see it xp

have sympathy for Left here given their rights are what's at stake in the UK rn, although I'm not sure how much RM has done to materially affect them other than stir the blood of the transphobes for a few fleeting weeks. these vampires fasten onto any perceived validation, but it feels like she'd rather this all went away rather than joining their coven. temporary damage done. potential for amends in the longer run? for now, fuck her ofc, but fuck this government and journalist class harder

every one of these things has material effects, every celebrity transphobe comment and every UK press article is accompanied by real world violence that gets no coverage

not even getting into the psychological and physiological effects all this stuff which seems pretty material to me

*of all this stuff

oh doubtless the climate of hatred which is maintained at all turns by these ghouls is an ongoing crime against humanity. if you say that RM's words have led to an uptick in transphobic violence you and those you know have experienced then fair enough

OK do I need to have proof that this is linked to that because that's what terfs say all the time - it's a movement based on simultaneously inciting and disavowing (mostly) male violence so nothing sticks to them by design

I said 'fair enough'! it isn't for me to contradict your lived experience, and the ongoing foregrounding of a transphobic discourse is a major reason for the emboldened violence

anyway she's now posting on her Instagram (which I have yet to click unfollow on, more fool me) "Hit Parade is a critical success because it's brilliant" which if ever there was a sign someone needs an intervention

I have to hear

Learning this is not true is one of the great experiences of getting older.

how nice for you

idk, maybe it would help to make your very valid point land a little better if every response wasn't a "fuck you" or snide sarcasm

(i know, i know.. fuck me too, i'll save you some typing on my way out of this thread)

if this is just going to be a tabloid gawk fest repeating hate speech, I totally see left’s point.

“If that person's movements have effects I need to protect myself from then it is in my interest to click even when I don't want to and you overestimate the extent of free will in this world”

^^^^^^^

I'm really at a loss here. Articles like the Torgraph one posted DO have effects, they contribute to the climate of hatred and violence just as Left themselves said here. But if that's not what's meant by effects that trans people need to protect themselves from, what is, within the context of a thread about a musician?

idk I'm not sure who's helped by hearing brendan o'neill say exactly what you expect him to say it's not even really about her is it it's like plug in the name here

post whatever you want though and if it upsets me I'll ignore it or take issue with it depending on my mood / your luck

there is a significant portion of the internet devoted to "look at this bigot being a bigot," it's one of the reasons i left twitter

even if it's in the spirit of ridicule, i was better off not knowing about it

I don't think anyone's helped by that either, aside perhaps from the positive feedback loop of telling each other that yes these people are scum and there's others who feel the same way about that. But as said before I am very sympathetic to not wanting to have to hear about that shit, and regularly avoid various threads about bigots for that reason.

I also take your point that you might need to hear about these people for reasons of personal safety, but if the Torygraph piece doesn't qualify as something that you need to know about by that rationale...I just don't know what Roisin Murphy-related activity would be. But whatever, not my place to do a taxonomy of that.

xposts

What a cast iron wanker

https://x.com/petepaphides/status/1702746847645680127?s=46&t=bJOqpCuQneT7ju08y55VSA

Can BBC Verify or the @bbcpress verify or deny that singer Roisin Murphy has been cancelled by the BBC after criticising puberty blockers?
Five hours of Ms Murphy's songs, interviews and highlights of her concerts were put together for a programme called the 6 Music Artist…

— Andrew Neil (@afneil) September 13, 2023

https://i.ibb.co/ZGmSCQp/IMG-3815.jpg

Thought he'd be too busy defending Brand for this

That was from last week, so it was a day or two before the Brand story took off iirc

Long time fan of Roisin Murphy, of course.....

cool to see the guy who steered a national newspaper into printing a series of stories about how hiv didn't cause aids has learned absolutely fucking nothing about shutting up on matters best left to medical professionals

Equally cool to see the guy who paid a Holocaust denier six figures to translate Goebbels’ diaries weighing in, the schmuck.

https://i.ibb.co/hHmDXtN/Screenshot-2023-09-23-071625.png

probably not unusual for niche artists but the album debuted last week at #5 in the uk charts, this week it's dropped to #73

https://i.imgur.com/rsp1gmt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rsp1gmt.jpg ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Case closed.