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This guy is having an incredible year. Shyne Coldchain Vol. 2 is my favorite mixtape of the year so far, and his debut EP for Def Jam, Hell Can Wait, is tentatively scheduled for a Sept. 23 release.

First single goes for the 1988 jugular:

And "Hands Up," the follow-up track that leaked today, is really powerful (Def Jam pulled this morning's stream, but an official one should be coming soon):

http://www.djbooth.net/index/tracks/review/vince-staples-hands-up

Also I love the story telling on this one:

Evan R, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 15:45 (two years ago) Permalink

I listened to "Blue Suede" like five times in a row one day last week.

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 15:58 (two years ago) Permalink

yea i like this guy. he came across p smart in that p4k interview piece last week

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 9 September 2014 15:58 (two years ago) Permalink

"Hands Up" is streaming on Spotify; what a track:

http://open.spotify.com/track/1Ajp50IXWne7XVlH1zAktL

Evan R, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:26 (two years ago) Permalink

"Hands Up" is so fucking righteous

Simon H., Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:38 (two years ago) Permalink

I've liked this guy for a while, but he really leveled up with Shyne Coldchain Vol. 2. He's always been a gifted storyteller about his upbringing and background, but on Shyne he broadened his perspective.

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:44 (two years ago) Permalink

His earlier OF verses are fun though:

voodoo chili, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:44 (two years ago) Permalink

I liked some of his OF verses but always wrote him off as a lesser copy of Earl, a Jesse Eisenberg of sorts to Earl's Michael Cera. Shyne Coldchain Vol. 2, to overextend the analogy, felt like his Social Network moment

Evan R, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 18:50 (two years ago) Permalink

does that mean Tyler is Jonah Hill and "Wolf" is his "The Sitter"?

alpine static, Wednesday, 10 September 2014 19:04 (two years ago) Permalink

oh thank god, thought i was gonna have to start a Vince Staples thread up in here.

Most interesting rapper, with the greatest potential, since I've heard since Danny Brown hit.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 20 September 2014 02:39 (two years ago) Permalink

I wish I liked the new singles more than I do - the Shyne Coldchain tapes overshadow them.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 20 September 2014 02:41 (two years ago) Permalink

loooove that shyne coldchain 2 tape

just sayin, Saturday, 20 September 2014 03:21 (two years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Hell Can Wait is good but it feels like a half-measure. Feel like it could have been a great album; instead it's a "digital EP."

Love the singles, though. Along with most of Shyne Coldchain 2 this is some of my fav rap of the year

Evan R, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:15 (two years ago) Permalink

This guy is doing message songs better than just about anybody right now.

Evan R, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 20:21 (two years ago) Permalink

aaaand... http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/19849-vince-staples-hell-can-wait-ep/

is this EP srsly better than Shyne Coldchain? cause that would be something.

alpine static, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 15:10 (two years ago) Permalink

Very different vibe than Shyne Coldchain; much more militant and inflamed; a little less ruminative. It's awesome but in a different way.

I still think it's three songs short of being a complete artistic statement tho. The brevity works, but I want more.

Evan R, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 15:23 (two years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

Senorita video is pretty great

Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:35 (two years ago) Permalink

good song but sampling Future on the hook of a single in 2015 is a weird worst of both worlds move

some dude, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:12 (two years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

initial impression: album is a masterpiece

Evan R, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:30 (one year ago) Permalink

did it leak???

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:42 (one year ago) Permalink

(i plan fully on buying this one but am v excited for this)

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:43 (one year ago) Permalink

how d'you hear it ?

i like this itw :
http://www.thefader.com/2015/06/09/vince-staples-interview-summertime-06

ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:46 (one year ago) Permalink

I've got a review copy. Kind of threw me at first, since it's not as singles minded as Hell Can Wait, but damn, he's got some jaw-droppers here, one after another for long stretches. It's absolutely incredible.

Evan R, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:52 (one year ago) Permalink

oh mannnnnn

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Can't wait for this album

pophatte (admrl), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:15 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't know as much as I'd like to about the NBA, but I watched all of this just to hear Vince talk:

pophatte (admrl), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:19 (one year ago) Permalink

is there stuff that goes even deeper than Hands Up?

the discussions, the slanging matches, the banter, the lot (imago), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:20 (one year ago) Permalink

nothing is quite as hard as Hands Up, but there are songs that come close and he sustains that intensity for tracks at a time. Impressive that he pulls of a double album, given how brevity-minded his other projects have been

Evan R, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:37 (one year ago) Permalink

he was good on the nightly show. clever guy.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:41 (one year ago) Permalink

new one, "get paid" http://vevo.ly/7Nscms

i dig how haunted this sounds

slothroprhymes, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:50 (one year ago) Permalink

legitimately havent had as much anticipation for an album in a long-ass time

slothroprhymes, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Senorita is dope. what's the concern about sampling Future?

alpine static, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:30 (one year ago) Permalink

can't stay up late to listen to the whole thing but went through the first three tracks and wow, norf norf is incredible in particular

definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 04:02 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, this album is really something.

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 22 June 2015 06:02 (one year ago) Permalink

this is awesome

the late great, Monday, 22 June 2015 06:19 (one year ago) Permalink

someone be sure to bump this thread when Vince makes a misstep ... ain't happened yet

alpine static, Monday, 22 June 2015 06:44 (one year ago) Permalink

About halfway through the album, pretty great so far. Señorita sounds even better in context.

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 June 2015 16:31 (one year ago) Permalink

This is my fav AOTY so far

Evan R, Monday, 22 June 2015 18:47 (one year ago) Permalink

absolutely

definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:07 (one year ago) Permalink

the sound is practically skeletal and almost entirely minor key and that works perfectly the whole time w/o ever growing monotonous

definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:10 (one year ago) Permalink

you mean I have to stop listening to Miguel

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:13 (one year ago) Permalink

yes alfred, just for an hour.

definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:14 (one year ago) Permalink

wildheart is def also gunning for the #1 spot tbf

definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:15 (one year ago) Permalink

it's been an incredible year

Evan R, Monday, 22 June 2015 19:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Wow. Miguel and Vince Staples arrive in one day. But yeah, this is great - almost too deep to take in. I like it that he's defined his musical aesthetic so clearly that this isn't a double album grab bag of stuff. It's just one dope track after another where I'm mesmerized by his voice. A little like when I first heard Nas.

paulhw, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 01:58 (one year ago) Permalink

so this is a good album

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 02:06 (one year ago) Permalink

"norf norf" is so fucking great

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 18:44 (one year ago) Permalink

i'll have to stop listening to this to hear Miguel, not the other way around #priorities

alpine static, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 22:55 (one year ago) Permalink

if this season of true detective was in compton, "dopeman" would be a perfect theme song, so quietly menacing. it's sort of an interstitial more than a full fledged song but I love it

definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 23:29 (one year ago) Permalink

Great performance. Even this album's second-tier tracks are gold

http://www.illroots.com/read/vince-staples-lemme-know-ft-jhen-aiko-live-on-jimmy-fallon

Evan R, Friday, 4 September 2015 16:03 (one year ago) Permalink

been jamming that track lately myself, cool

johnny crunch, Friday, 4 September 2015 16:11 (one year ago) Permalink

"Lemme Know" might be my favorite thing on the album tbh

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 4 September 2015 16:13 (one year ago) Permalink

still listening to this album all the time. it's just so...listenable.

lil urbane (Jordan), Friday, 4 September 2015 16:39 (one year ago) Permalink

second-tier though? to me 'Lemme Know' is the obvious single.

lil urbane (Jordan), Friday, 4 September 2015 16:42 (one year ago) Permalink

What is the lyric you're most proud of?

My manager's favourite is: "A penny saved is a penny earned / So I'll be stacking up this copper as the city burn." Lot of people don't know there history of the crashes of copper, silver and gold. I got grades in history. My precious metal game is immaculate.

https://i-d.vice.com/en_gb/article/vince-staples-thinks-miley-owes-kendrick-an-apology

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Friday, 4 September 2015 20:14 (one year ago) Permalink

You've also said if you're credited, you're not a ghost writer.

People don't know what the word "ghost" means - they've never seen Casper. I don't like children's movies that make you sad. My nephew made me see 'Up!' They got this old man who is about to die and his wife is dead. I don't want to get old now. You're just by yourself with a dog and the dog talks? I don't want to talk to the dog.

Tim F, Friday, 4 September 2015 22:04 (one year ago) Permalink

lol wut

the late great, Friday, 4 September 2015 22:07 (one year ago) Permalink

I fuckin love this dude

alpine static, Saturday, 5 September 2015 00:27 (one year ago) Permalink

YOU A STREET PUNK

YOU A MOTHERFUCKIN STREET PUNK

alpine static, Saturday, 5 September 2015 00:28 (one year ago) Permalink

That interview was pretty damn funny

not a garbageman, i am garbage, man (m bison), Saturday, 5 September 2015 02:59 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

"summertime" is outstanding

whole album is great

marcos, Tuesday, 22 September 2015 16:03 (one year ago) Permalink

this album is absolutely superlative

twunty fifteen (imago), Tuesday, 6 October 2015 15:21 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Vince just messes w/ ppl at every opportunity and it's the greatest thing ever

alpine static, Thursday, 29 October 2015 01:22 (one year ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

New EP not v good

Spottie, Monday, 29 August 2016 17:40 (nine months ago) Permalink

"summertime" is outstanding

whole album is great

― marcos, Tuesday, September 22, 2015 12:03 PM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbh despite this post i think the first time i played this record was the best it sounded for me, haven't really gone back to it much

marcos, Monday, 29 August 2016 17:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

the EP is spotty for sure. he goes into a more nasal register in that last track which is not a good look.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 29 August 2016 17:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

i like vince quite a bit but would tend towards listening to jay rock if i were in the mood for this type of stuff

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 August 2016 18:03 (nine months ago) Permalink

Yeah I absolutely hate this EP

Evan R, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:14 (nine months ago) Permalink

I don't know when 2016 decided to have James Blake ruin all my favorite artists but fuck that

Evan R, Monday, 29 August 2016 18:14 (nine months ago) Permalink

these mopey acapella "blues" song interludes are p fucking annoying

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 August 2016 19:31 (nine months ago) Permalink

i like it, but it's not particularly substantial, certainly not by comparison to the album

appreciate how thoroughly bleak it goes tho. (also.....where is james blake on this? like i know where he literally is - he produced "war ready" - but it's not like the song sounds like a fuckin james blake song lol)

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Monday, 29 August 2016 19:37 (nine months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I like this EP a lot, "Smile" excepted.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 00:04 (seven months ago) Permalink

^^ how is that possible, Vince makes no missteps

alpine static, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 02:25 (seven months ago) Permalink

so weird that she thinks vince staples is played on radio

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 05:48 (seven months ago) Permalink

that was my reaction! where is Norf Norf playing on "top hits" radio?

alpine static, Wednesday, 5 October 2016 07:31 (seven months ago) Permalink

I love this response

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 6 October 2016 17:42 (seven months ago) Permalink

man i feel old hearing her say "the top hits in my day were britney spears, christina, n-sync" like it's fucking buddy holly

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 October 2016 17:49 (seven months ago) Permalink

fairly sure this is going to turn out to be a viral hoax -- the odds of a pop radio station playing meghan trainor and vince staples, given what gets radio airplay where, are not all that high, no one seems to be able to locate the original source (it was uploaded 1 month ago to a youtube account that seems to mostly repost other people's stuff), and the thing doesn't really pass a sniff test.

could be wrong, obviously

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 6 October 2016 17:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

def jam marketing imo

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 6 October 2016 17:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

our local sports talk morning zoo crew was making fun of this this morning

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 October 2016 17:57 (seven months ago) Permalink

man i feel old hearing her say "the top hits in my day were britney spears, christina, n-sync" like it's fucking buddy holly

― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, October 6, 2016 1:49 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

man i feel old -- because i think kids in the hall when i hear "fucking buddy holly"

PappaWheelie V, Thursday, 6 October 2016 17:57 (seven months ago) Permalink

i feel old because i actually fucked buddy holly

Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:17 (seven months ago) Permalink

Oh Boy!

Spottie, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

*crickets*

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 6 October 2016 18:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

I'm buddy holly's dad, so

6 god none the richer (m bison), Friday, 7 October 2016 10:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

anyway, this is pretty great considering it sounds like he's really freestyling for a good bit of it

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 October 2016 21:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

Vince's EPs always feel like letdowns.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 9 October 2016 18:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

It seems like a form where he and his producers are experimenting and trying new things, and inevitably nothing emerges from that where I'm like "you know what, I can't stop listening to this."

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 9 October 2016 18:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

||||||||, Friday, 18 November 2016 20:40 (six months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 13:35 (two months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

devvvine, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:26 (one week ago) Permalink

Boring. I don't understand the love for this dude.

Benjamin-, Friday, 19 May 2017 01:29 (one week ago) Permalink

I like that one. hated his last ep tho.

Spottie, Friday, 19 May 2017 04:57 (one week ago) Permalink

"BagBak" is immense

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 19 May 2017 09:14 (one week ago) Permalink

Love this. Easily one of my favorite lyricists in hip hop atm.

My one issue with Staples is that his music can sometimes sound an like an obvious copy & paste job, inserting lyrics into a song written before he had ever heard the beat. To be fair, he's admitted that this is his process, and he'll occasionally sit on verses for years before he can find the right beat. Definitely contributes to his lyrical density. But his songs never have the fluidity of someone like Kanye or Young Thug. Plus they always feel like they're one verse too short.

That said I'm psyched for this album.

Handsome Bookor, Friday, 19 May 2017 21:35 (one week ago) Permalink

im not a big fan of his music but i feel bad shitting on it cuz he seems like a good dude

thats not a very critic-y pov but whatever

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 20 May 2017 00:30 (one week ago) Permalink


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