Bogus/waylaid album projects

this thread is mostly for the collection of bogus rumored albums (more a product of USEnet in the 90s pre-explosion of internet) and legitimate album plans that got waylaid, either by the band itself, or the label, or anything. (except Smile, there are entire threads for that).

one of my favorite 'bogus' album rumors that gained a LOT of steam on USEnet was Metallica's follow-up to Load. rumors circulated that the follow-up would be called Waiting in the Wings, but it was actually a joke that nobody properly vetted. here is a clipping of one of those posts from alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica (variations of this seemed to get posted every other day for months):

i read in the internet in a site named Encyclopedia Metallica and they are
writing all the news about metallica that the webmaster knows.. they wrote
there about the 7# album of metallica:

The tittle will probably be "Waiting In The Wings" and the song tittles:
1.On The Take, 2.Devil's Dance, 3.Big Brother, 4.Enchanted, 5.Second Wind,
6.Waiting In The Wings, 7.Nevermore, 8.Feeding Your Fire, 9.Burning
Bridges, 10.Fleeting Glimpse, GEMINI TRILOGY: 11.I - Gemini Pt. 1, 12.II -
Center's Side (Instrumental), 13.III - Gemini Pt. 2, 14.Raging Bull

it was funny because the fake song titles didn't even remotely seem legit and people bought it.

also, Savatage's Streets was supposed to be a double-album before Atlantic Records nixed that. the original version of "Jesus Saves" was a gospel-esque number but Atlantic asked them to turn it into a proper metal song (I've heard the orig - it's actually quite good!)

The album was originally due to be a double CD record, but record label Atlantic Records lost reels of the sessions in their vaults. These "lost tracks" were re-written over the years and eventually formed parts of songs on Edge of Thorns and later works. The album as a double CD as originally intended will never see the light, partly because the only recordings that remain are on audio cassette of the master tapes, and partly because most of the original ideas for the songs were used in later works. Originally the album would contain more spoken tracks than the one used for the introduction for Jesus Saves (which was a reworking of DT Jesus after Atlantic did not like the original version, and was recorded with only Jon and Criss in the studio, much like Gutter Ballet). However, a 31-track narrated version of the album was released by EarMusic Records on September 27 2013.
List of deleted songs

Larry Elbows
Beyond Broadway
Up to You
Life Goes On
Stay
Desirée
Tonight I Would be King
Island of the Kings
Sanctuary

Among the songs that were dropped was also "DT Jesus", later reworked into "Jesus Saves", a song which will be properly released on the 2013 director's cut version of the album, and also available on the From the Gutter to the Stage compilation. "Desirée" was later released on the 1997 Edel re-release of the album as an acoustic version sung by Zak. "Stay" involves the otherwise unknown character of Duke and was supposed to follow on from "Ghost in the Ruins",[1] and appears on the 1997 re-release of HOTMK, also in an acoustic arrangement). "Sanctuary" was a new version of the Gutter Ballet out-take "Target". "Larry Elbows" (referred to by some as "the 17th track"), which will be included in the 2013 reissue, is based on an old demo by the band, "Before I Hang", which also appeared on Jon Oliva's Pain's album Global Warning. The track was also used as basis for the Edge of Thorns song "Follow Me". "Beyond Broadway", another track written for the album, was also reworked by Jon Oliva and parts of the song formed "Lies" on the Jon Oliva's Pain's album Festival.

Proposed tracklist for the Who's 1972 studio album:

Join Together, Too Much Of Anything, Relay, Long Live Rock, Put The Money Down, Love Reign O'er Me, Is It In My Head?, Can't You See I'm Easy, Ladies In The Female Jail, Time Is Passing, and Pure And Easy.

All but "Can't You See I'm Easy" and "Female Jail" were recorded and released (as singles, on Odds & Sods, and on Quadrophenia).

nice!

still hoping that the "Nurse With Wound are doing a hip hop album with all female MCs" rumor comes true some day.

I do remember anticipating Snoop Dogg's Tha Last Meal in 2000 and hearing samplers of demos on the web, then finding a leak on a DALnet mp3 channel a few months in advance. I listened to the snippets, and the tracks on DALnet matched up (there were about twelve of them, including "Issues" and "Snoop Dogg"). I liked most of the leaked demos, one of which went something like "life is just like a baseball game", and another had him rapping frenetically over a hypnotic piano loop.

I bought the album months later and only "Issues" and "Snoop Dogg" remained from the tracks I'd heard and the album was vastly inferior to the demos I'd downloaded.

Lil Wayne - The Carter III

1. "Weezy (Interlude)"
2. "Still Can't Stop the Reign"
3. "D.I.V.A. Radio (Interlude)"
4. "It Was All a Dream" feat. Jay-Z and Young Jeezy
5. "No Love Lost" feat. Juelz Santana
6. "Strait Playin'" feat. DJ Quik
7. "Best to Worst"
8. "Legal Money" feat. Curren$y and DJ Khaled
9. "Edge of Night" feat. Bobby Brown
10. "S.H.E. (Interlude)"
11. "Let's Wait a While"
12. "Can I Play Gunz" feat. Birdman and Rick Ross
13. "Just Be Good to Me" feat. Kanye West
14. "More to Life" feat. Justin Timberlake
15. "Big Dog Stomp" feat. T.I. and Fat Joe
16. "Game of Death"
17. "Outtro (Interlude)" feat. Young Money
18. "Player" feat. Birdman
19. "Don't Wanna Be Alone"

― and what, Wednesday, January 16, 2008 4:37 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that post still makes me irl lol.

So "lost" albums and fake tracklists? The two phenomena don't seem that related, and we surely have a thread about the former already

still hoping that the "Nurse With Wound are doing a hip hop album with all female MCs" rumor comes true some day.

not exactly a rumor -- in 2008 he said he'd nearly finished it... but then later said he'd grown bored of rap and never finished the project.

there was a fake press release going around in 1997 announcing two new smashing pumkins albums, one all acoustic and one all electronic. fake tracklists were given, i recall only a few tracks actually existng in real life (as melon collie demos)

This happened with Iron Maiden.

'Here's some information you might want to know. It comes from a very reliable source, who works at Sanctuary Management. I can't give his name because else he will probably be fired. He has seen the tracklist and cover art, and heard Rod and Maiden talk about the first single.

The album title will be "Majesty of Gaia"
The tracklist will almost certainly look like this:
1. Heaven's Gate
2. Cardinal Sin
3. Everyone's Illusion
4. Seraphine
5. Equinox
6. Fallen Empire
7. King Of The Desert
8. Conveyer Of Truth
9. He Who Laughs Last
10. Majesty Of Gaia

First single will be Heaven's Gate, which is, like Moonchild and Futureal, a pretty fast album opener.
B-sides:
Highway Star (Deep Purple cover)
and probably one or two of the following:
Powerslave, Aces High or Futureal (all recorded live on the Ed Hunter tour)

The albumcover will feature Derek Riggs' work, as will the single cover. However, the single cover will feature digital art (like Riggs did on Gamma Ray's Powerplant album), as opposed to the album cover which will be traditional painting. He didn't say much about what was on it, except that the digital Eddie made by Riggs looked impressive. better than the one from Synthetic Dymensions.
Planned release is end of May, with the first single, Heaven's Gate, released in the last week of April or first week of May.'

The band even warned fans on their website with a fake album alert: http://www.ironmaiden.com/majesty-of-gaia---fake-album-alert.html

Beach boys have so many of these. Best is landlocked.

There was a _Sundays_ one recently, yeah?

geez, I mean I've heard of fake album rumors all the time but a website (cdeurope.com) was actually SELLING the fake album and single? lol

They Might Be Giants had an album called "Superfueled Freaksicle" coming just around the corner in the years after Factory Showroom - killed off when they left Elektra and went with the download-only album(s). Googling now suggests that this title was attached to an odds-and-sods collection, which would have been great - and naturally there are some promising fan-made tracklists out there. But I could swear that at the time it was supposed to be the next "proper" album.

There were pretty serious rumors of a Michael Stipe solo album (circa-Up iirc) on rec.music.rem.

But considering the response to his recently released solo debut, no one gives a shit about solo Stipe, and so it's probably for the best that it was shelved.

Do you mean this soundtrack? http://www.nme.com/news/michael-stipe/77708?
Buffalo Springfield's Stampede might be bogus, as far as some of the bootlegs that used to be peddled in the pre-download era; also, seems to be some doubt about how serious an effort it really was. Some of the songs were released elsewhere, right?
Neil Young? Tylerw to thread! Come to think of it, T. even put together a proposed Homegrown, based on clues: a live "imaginary version": http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/32393488141/homegrown-the-lost-album-neil-youngs-memoir-is

There was a _Sundays_ one recently, yeah?

― Mark G, Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:51 PM (2 hours ago)

that was entirely my fault

and I still feel guilty about it (if only because it was such a lazy trolling attempt)

Stampede was supposed to be the album "For What It's Worth" would anchor, but Atlantic decided put it on a reissue of the debut. Legend has it most of what they were recording at the same time would complete the album, but recordings were scrapped due to personel changes and/or more ambitious material being brought in.

Do you mean this soundtrack? http://www.nme.com/news/michael-stipe/77708?

Yeah. The song I heard wasn't terrible, but I was surprised that no one had any comments when I posted a link to it on the R.E.M. thread.

Bowie's followup to Outside, which was provisionally titled Contamination.

The The - Pornography of Despair
Kraftwerk - Techno Pop

Robert Smith solo album from two decades ago.

Brian Eno - My Squelchy Life

Minutemen & Richard Meltzer were going to make an album right when D Boon passed, eventually the idea kind of came to fruition with the Spielgusher record

There are a ton of these in Hip Hop btw. Obv Detox, but also stuff like I Can't Feel My Face and the Ghostface/MF Doom album. Also, a lot of completed albums that took forever to be or never were released--Black Bastards, that Saigon album, Large Professor- The Album

One of the inside jokes of The Whitey Album was that Sonic Youth had been talking about covering the whole White Album for a while, in response to Pussy Galore's Exile on Main Street covers. But I don't think SY ever got far with the Beatles project.

That 1972 Who record would have been my favorite 70s work of theirs, had they put it together. Are there Who recordings of those two stray tracks?

I don't know; it's possible/likely, but their archives are a mess (missing multitrack masters and such). However, some of the tracks that have been surfaced in the reissue program were previously thought not to exist, so there's hope.

Pete's demo of "Riot In The Female Jail" (aka, "Women's Liberation") is pretty great, but naturally it only hints at what the rest of the Who might've done with it:
http://youtu.be/j15RmCZ7Tnw

Cardiacs - LSD, folks.

Lip$ha

speaking of the Who - LIFEHOUSE

Yeah, some of the songs on the 1972 record had been written for Lifehouse/Who's Next. "Pure and Easy" and "Time Is Passing" were recorded in 1971 and considered for WN, whereas the rest were recorded in 1972.

The Who felt that the '72 album didn't compare favorably to WN, or hang together well as an album, which is why it was scrapped and (mostly) released piecemeal.

Speaking of The Sundays, can we use this thread to dispel non-album rumors? I heard in the nineties, before there was really any method of checking things out, that at the final Sundays live show the band came out onstage, but instead of picking up instruments they instead started throwing out cans of spray paint to the crowd and encouraged them to decorate the venue with any art of their choosing.

It sounds ridiculous, especially coming from a band as mild-mannered as The Sundays, but also maybe believable?

Also, a lot of completed albums that took forever to be or never were released--Black Bastards, that Saigon album, Large Professor- The Album}

Back in 2007, Eve was supposed to release her 4th album, titled Here I Am. It was even reviewed by XXL, but ultimately it was never released. Apparently that album eventually morpher into Lip Lock, released 6 years later, but most of the tracks mentioned in that XXL review aren't on the new album.

Also, the Stat Quo album that was supposedly produced by Dr. Dre never materialized. He eventually released his debut in 2010, but apparently it has none of the tracks originally recorded for the album that was supposed to come out in 2003.

Prince has seventeen unreleased projects (with varying degrees of overlap), and that's not including live records or collaborations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreleased_Prince_projects

For a second there I thought there was a rumoured Status Quo album produced by Dr Dre.

"Untitled Kevin Smith-directed documentary"

oh man

xp

Thinking that a unified and conceptually rigorous version of The Who, with the four album run of Sell Out, Tommy, Lifehouse, and Quadrophenia would have been much less interesting than what history provided, even were it all the same material

IIRC Prince was also supposed to release an album of instrumental classical music at some point... Or did that one actually come out?

(xxpost)

Still got a Q-Tip promo somewhere, which somehow never did come out, far as I know---it's good, but I'm blanking on the title (from around 2000?) Some albums are waylaid by the artist, like Prince pulled The Black Album, at the very last second, with the warehouses full (or so a distributor told me). Instant Result: his very own, very classic bootleg (of course, he did release some of the tracks here and there).
Seger waylaid the collected 60s singles (had a cassette promo, but it broke; years and years later, ilxor Myonga posted it, yay)

(of course, he did release some of the tracks here and there).

and then of course he just released the album. (or at least his label did!)

Still got a Q-Tip promo somewhere, which somehow never did come out, far as I know---it's good, but I'm blanking on the title (from around 2000?)

This one? It did eventually come out, 8 years after the original release date.

Yeah, WB had a Black Album fire sale about the same time Prince left the label. Wikipedia says it was a limited pressing, which I never realized because it was in used cd bins in high numbers for the rest of the 90s.

Q-Tip also had a second unreleased album, Open, from around 2005 that remains unreleased, but "Kamaal / The Abstract" is generally the more talked about one.

Missy Elliott 'Block Party' - just can't pull the trigger, it seems. shades of Detox.

Duran Duran 'Reportage' - their political album. post-Astronaut, pre-Timbaland. Track names include: "Criminals in the Capitol" (yes... capitOl)..."Judy, Where Are You" and "Transcendental Mental". They were also working on an album called 'Trance Punk' before John left. TRANCE PUNK.

Honestly I keep forgetting that Duran Duran are still a going concern.

The Q-Tip promo was a CD-R, don't think the title was that long (though in little bitty Chuck Eddy letters), but think it must've been Kamaal/The Abstract--just now looked up the originally projected release date (2002, right?); sounds right. Yeah, The Black Album was eventually released in full; was almost as easily available while still boot. I got my translucent orangeade vinyl for $8.00. Great album!

The Q-Tip was also sonic tonic.

Wait, John left Duran Duran? Their last album was pretty good.

Left them for a spell at the end of the 90s. Trance Punk was 95/96 or so.

...later released as Pop under the name U2.

Tony Bennett said he had something like 50 unreleased albums. But he said it as if that were nothing, because he bangs them out constantly.

that's not all he bangs out constantly

The 1969 album Sinatra Jobim, intended follow-up to their 1967 album, was ready to ship when Sinatra had it pulled because he was dissatisfied with several of the performances. The 8-track tape had already been shipped to several distributors, so a few copies escaped the recall.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5c/SinatraJobim69cover.jpg/220px-SinatraJobim69cover.jpg

Thinking that a unified and conceptually rigorous version of The Who, with the four album run of Sell Out, Tommy, Lifehouse, and Quadrophenia would have been much less interesting than what history provided, even were it all the same material

― juggulo for the complete klvtz (bendy), Friday, July 18, 2014 5:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Agreed. I sometimes think they should've (could've) almost been a 70s CCR, constantly churning out brilliant singles...in fact, they seemed to take a shot at that in late '71/'72 with the run of "Let's See Action" - "Join Together" - "The Relay," but unfortunately none were particularly big hits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gUwG7CtqYY

The Dude

No, that one did come out:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/The_Dude_Quincy_Jones.jpg

god bless the wayback machine, found the fake smashing pumpkins 1997 double album stuff:
http://web.archive.org/web/19971210231308/http://www.smashing-pumpkins.net/news/newalbums.htm

Virgin Records and The Smashing Pumpkins are pleased to announce that
the band will release two new albums in October 1997. The first
album, which is called A World Turned Down will be more of an
electronic rock album. It will be released in the second week of
October and features 10 tracks. The second album, called Autumn
Nocturne, will be an acoustic album. It will be released in the final
week of October and it also will feature 10 tracks.
Here are the tracklistings.
The Smashing Pumpkins - A World Turned Down
1.Zoom - 4:20
2.A Million Miles Away - 3:55
3.Above It All - 2:53
4.Inside Of Me - 4:14
5.Ugly Beautiful - 1:59
6.Dark Times (Duet w/ Marilyn Manson) - 5:01
7.Trained To Lose - 6:16
8.Domino (We All Fall Down) - 4:11
9.Die - 9:52
10.So Empty Inside - 3:45

The Smashing Pumpkins - Autumn Nocturne
1.Sheep - 3:35
2.Under The Clouds - 5:13
3.Autumn Nocturne - 1:19
4.Looking Back, Looking Ahead - 4:50
5.Wishing You Were - 4:23
6.Tranquility - 5:11
7.Here And There And Back Again - 6:00
8.Nightlife - 4:44
9.Why - 3:59
10.Mermaid - 5:57
OTHER INFORMATION
There will be singles released from both albums. The first single
from A World Turned Down will be Dark Times. This song features both
Billy Corgan and Marilyn Manson on vocals. The first single from
Autumn Nocturne will be Wishing You Were.
Fairy (Billy Corgan's side project with Marilyn Manson, Twiggy Ramerez
and Chris Vrenna) will be releasing a self titled 5 song EP on both
the Nothing/Interscope and Virgin record labels. This means that both
labels have rights to the record.
James Iha will be releasing a solo album on Scratchie Records. More
info will posted soon at the Scratchie website.
More information about the new Smashing Pumpkins records can be found
at the Virgin Records website (www.virginrecords.com) starting June 25.
Bob Van Gretch
Public Relations
Virgin Records
www.virginrecords.com
vir✧✧✧@me✧✧✧.virginreco✧✧✧.c✧✧

lol, some aspects of that are such good fakery, like a 1:19 interlude called "Autumn Nocturne," some of the rest is sooo hacky. Duet with Marilyn Manson, yeah right.

Lucinda Williams' Car Wheels on a Gravel Road was 90% finished before she fell out with the producer and redid the entire album. The first version leaked and is a lame piece of work compared to the released version.

Didn't something like that happen with U2 and Rick Rubin before No Line on the Horizon?

The mind boggles..

Tapeworm, a Keenan/Reznor joint:

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljt7unqhs31qdhqwwo1_500.jpg

With Teeth also started out as a Rick Rubin (co-)production called Bleedthrough. And then there's Strobe Light...

"I'm finding EMI/Virgin seem to have a lot of scheduling conflicts this year, which has put an awful lot on the back burner. Toy is finished and ready to go, and I will make an announcement as soon as I get a very real date.. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_(David_Bowie_album)

Neil Young – Chrome Dreams

Neil Young - Toast