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rocky racoon over honey pie ? (and how come wild honey pie is still in here !?)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:28 (eighteen years ago) link

HUNNEH PAAAAAH!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link

i guess it must have been a drugged studio jam...but why keep it on the album !!

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
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5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
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10. I'm So Tired
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12. Piggies
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14. Don't Pass Me By
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16. I Will
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18. Birthday
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20. Mother Nature's Son
21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
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23. Helter Skelter
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25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

Blackbird can go, Mother Nature's Son can stay. For now.

Deluxe (Damian), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link

It's funny! Funnier than Rocky Raccoon anyway. Not as funny as Good Night tho (not as sweet either).

xpost awww I was hopinf Blackbird would make it through to the last few.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I have heard no albums ever!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:48 (eighteen years ago) link

"Don't Pass Me By" - it's lucky Ringo happened to be one of the Beatles

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2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
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5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
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21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
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25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm going to use my second cos-it's-a-double-album pick to get rid of "Helter Skelter", because i) I don't like it, and ii) it annoys me when people use it as a way of demonstrating the Beatles' (or McCartney's) versatility when it sounds so obviously strained.

1. Back in the U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
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5. Wild Honey Pie
6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
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10. I'm So Tired
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12. Piggies
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21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
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25. Revolution 1
26. Honey Pie
27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link

"blackbird" and "julia" gone before "don't pass me by" and "wild honey pie" (just to name these weak ones...) !!?? wtf !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link

huh ? so we establish that we're allowed two shots for double albums ?
i'm gonna keep mine for an emergency shoot...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't stand Honey Pie. What is the point?

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2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
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6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
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21. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
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27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe there should be a "Beatles pastiches - C/D" thread, I love them! (Though I suppose Lennon's blues dirges are pastiches of a sort too).

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

It's almost honed down to a decent album now. If I'm allowed a second shot on double album grounds, I'm killing Piggies - sub-Animal Farm silliness.

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2. Dear Prudence
3. Glass Onion
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6. Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill
7. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
8. Happiness Is a Warm Gun
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25. Revolution 1
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27. Savoy Truffle
28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

jz, Monday, 26 September 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, the essence of this album is clearly 'Happiness Is A Warm Gun'.

jz, Monday, 26 September 2005 12:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Back in the U.S.S.R has to die. i'm surprised it wasnt the first, even before honey pie. gahd. also, I will is the essence.

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28. Cry Baby Cry
29. Revolution 9
30. Good Night

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link

sorry guys...

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28. Cry Baby Cry
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carly (carly), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, knock out Wild Honey Pie, Bungalow Bill and While My Guitar (too overwrought) and you've got the Beatles' best-ever album.

jz, Monday, 26 September 2005 12:25 (eighteen years ago) link

There's at least one more song lingering I think is pretty much atrocious.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:26 (eighteen years ago) link

never understood why Savoy Truffle isn't more hated

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:27 (eighteen years ago) link

In fact there's only four songs there I really like! This thread has really demonstrated to me that the goofy stuff is the only reason I enjoy the white album, pretty much.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Goodbye, Birthday

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Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link

get rid of "mother nature's son"
i think mccartney's down to one

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petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link

How could Wild Honey Pie outlast Sexy Sadie? That's insanity.

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kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:44 (eighteen years ago) link

this album is getting so good.

carly (carly), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Adios, "Savoy Truffle," you're too meta for your own good. (Or, rather, you don't justify your meta with a good melody/interesting arrangement.)

"I Will," you survive this round, but if I had my druthers...

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EppyIsWaitingForGas, Monday, 26 September 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

"Savoy Truffle", "Glass Onion" and "Rocky Raccoon" are all in their own ways great candidates for the ESSENCE of this album, viz. hugely talented songwriters rapidly disappearing up their own arses.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh no, did I confuse "Savoy Truffle" with "Glass Onion"? Uh oh. At any rate, it's not a very good song, and I do still like this album a lot, so I think its essence would be a good song. I'd be with you on "Rocky Racoon" although I kinda hope it ends up being "Good Night."

EppyIsWaitingForGas, Monday, 26 September 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

You will not get your wish. The song always kinda bugged me.

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Ross Godfrey (scatter), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i wonder why bungalow bill and monkey are still here... i don't really like the album in the state it is now...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I always hated the CHUGGING on Glass Onion.

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Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link

"Monkey" is great! It's about the only one of the album's 'freakout' tracks which is any fun.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link

well, it's fun but i don't consider it an "essential" track of the album. more like one of the ok ones considering the white album concept. but i have to say i dislike "bungalow" much more !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

shit. i was hoping glass onion would be one of the last three.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link

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peace BB

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I cut "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" -- it's a fine and clearly classic song, but speaks to me much more of the aesthetic/vision of a single Beatle, in opposition to the band's essence. Some of the other remaining solo tracks have more of the whimsy and yes kindness that typifies The Beatles (for me).

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sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

im surprised glass onion didnt last longer. its chugging is surely pretty good.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

It's such fan-baiting wank though!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

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Thank God BB is gone. I took out the schmaltzy crap from Harrison (possibly ruined for me by my high school principal's off-key rendition).

js (honestengine), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha! We wacked the same song. Clearly a sign of critical genius!

js (honestengine), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link

If "Revolution 9" can't win, I'll be buggered if I'm letting "Rev 1" do it.

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Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Great song but not essence of the album : “Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey”
BLAM!

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Some Guy, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

hum...we're getting to a pretty tight EP... but one seems a bit out of place amongst the "essential" (plus there are too many lennon trax left)...and I still have my second shot so... now you can cry...

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AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

This is a baggy album with a fair amount of self-indulgent experimentalism. That makes it in essence more of a John album than a Paul album. Ipso facto, I Will goes.

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slavoj Zizek, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

ok - WE ALL KNOW WHICH ONE IS GOING TO WIN

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, but i almost want to post with the really essential track removed, just to see what people do. it's the same feeling i have that i might just throw my glasses off a bridge. it'd be crazy, to my detriment, and irrational. but i kinda want to.

carly (carly), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't even think it's a good track, I think it's laboured and overwrought, but it does probably sum the record up. Anyway I've had my two votes.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link

funny i just counted there are more lennon trax than macca's on the album. always thought it was the other way round as lennon was not in a very "productive" period whereas macca was on fire.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

of the ones left (and maybe in overall), i much prefer dear prudence to happiness... (just in case we can make the odds wrong !)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

whatever - its a great song; it is laboured and overwrought, but it also rules in 35 different ways. and the breeders cover rules.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I've got a vote left, so let's make this clear-cut:

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Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link


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