― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 07:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 07:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 07:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― wrist of oak (bulbs), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:04 (seventeen years ago) link
Shame both years were shite though.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:17 (seventeen years ago) link
A double-album of both records would make no difference. One single album, with the best of both and all the filler trimmed off, would rule. (Like everyone else in the world I compiled my own one in like 2001).
xpost - dudes, we are already having a trance revival only four or five years on. Stop trying to impose systems thinking on all this.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― wrist of oak (bulbs), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:22 (seventeen years ago) link
I think that's down to super-retroism on the part of ILM. It's ten years since 1996 and so the ten-year anniversary of albums like If You're Feeling Sinister are being drawn attention to. If you read the 1996 thread there are just as many people hating on it as they are loving it. The rest of the world is not ready to start getting misty-eyed about the post-Britpop heyday as it's too recent in the minds of those who were there at the time and those who weren't there are too busy discovering their own music to take much notice. In another ten years time the mid nineties'll be really fashionable again and everyone'll want to look like Alex James.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link
i am buying my gatecrasher kid redux outfit today.
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:24 (seventeen years ago) link
i think of RAZORLIGHT as a britpop revival band innit.
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― wrist of oak (bulbs), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― wrist of oak (bulbs), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― wrist of oak (bulbs), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link
is electro big?
i have been wondering this elsewhere. rihanna convinced me maybe it is.
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― wrist of oak (bulbs), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 08:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― wrist of oak (bulbs), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link
xpost
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:02 (seventeen years ago) link
ElectroElectroclashElectronic Synth-PopElectroHouse???
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Enrique, I think you discredit the kind of impact Electroclash did have, although you're right about it being a part of the 80s revival which is what I've also been saying. While Electroclash was only seen as a significant movement among the dance cogniscienti (and even they saw it as a fad before it had even begun), I think it had a much bigger impact on the mainstream in the long run.
Getting back to the Radiohead subject, I don't think a track like Idioteque would have been realised without an electro revival. Elsewhere you can compare the sound of the Spice Girls with Girls Aloud and the latter have a distinct electro flavour as opposed to the comparably polished sound of the Spice Girls.
A revival in the Electro sound is just reinforcing the trend that things happening roughly 20-25 years ago tend to get romanticised and revived in a mainstream way whereas stuff that came out 10-15 years ago is seen as embarassing and untrendy. This is not really news, it's just typical of what happens. The 90s were all about the 60s (Oasis, Britpop in general) and 70s; the 80s were all about the 50's (Shakin Stevens, The Stray Cats) and 60's (The Specials, The Jam)
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:12 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't think a track like Idioteque would have been realised without an electro revival.
Despite pre-dating electroclash by a year or two? What nonsense.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:15 (seventeen years ago) link
Despite pre-dating electroclash by a year or two and sounding sonically completely different? What nonsense.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:16 (seventeen years ago) link
fandango, they're all the same thing really aren't they? just from different years. Like all styles of dance music, Electro has had to evolve over time. It's like saying "When people say 'I like House' I don't know what they mean".
What year was Kid A? 2001? Two Lone Swordsmen's "Tiny Reminders" from 2000 was a keystone in the Electro revival and it turned a lot of people onto that sound, especially Warp fans of the time, like Thom Yorke and myself. Before that album I didn't really know what Electro was supposed to be. Idioteque is more than a passing nod to that album.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:22 (seventeen years ago) link
what's more 'radical' though, doing no singles ('kid a') or releaseing 'pyramid song' as a single ('amnesiac')?
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link
Jedi Knights 'New School Science' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Tiny Reminders', and guess the year it came out
fucks sake...
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:40 (seventeen years ago) link
if you were an ignorant moron listening to shitty music all the time, yes
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link
i think they made this more likely! 'kid a' was a Big Event not just because of the media and public but because it was released without singles and with these weird eco-shows (iirc) instead of a regular tour. that looked far more arrogant, in its way, than doing a patchy double-LP.
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:45 (seventeen years ago) link
doglatin on this thread is like some kind of armando ianucci bot spouting out ridiculous ill thought out opinons with no link to reality.
Electroclash was spawned and then Girls Aloud and stuff etc.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link
maybe fandango you're right but i don't think Radiohead ever wanted to shoot themselves in the foot. In a way by releasing two albums they made their experiments easier to swallow for the Mondeo-generation whereas I think a double-album in the style of say The White Album full of dibs and dabs and experiments and a reprise of one of the main tracks appearing on each side would have kept their integrity without alienating their fanbase.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link
Less of this kind of thing please. Say what you mean, because that's even more ill thought out than anything I've contributed to this thread.
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:00 (seventeen years ago) link
1) Tanked their whole career with the backlash (bloated, "too experimental" etcetera) if it didn't work.2) Made Thom the new John Lennon with Kid Amnesiac as their White Album if it did.
I don't blame them for letting some pressure off personally. But then I don't really like sprawliing double albums much either!
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:00 (seventeen years ago) link
you don't get big without wanting it; moreoever it takes hard work. oasis didn't put the effort into the states that radiohead did.
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 4 August 2006 10:11 (seventeen years ago) link