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Oh yeah, and the remix album Ten Years Too Soon - was it?

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 08:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I like all of his albums, so you can probably safely ignore my opinion

Tom D., Tuesday, 2 September 2008 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link

High on You is fantastic.

Heard Ya Missed Me is really sad, very limp, his sonic tricks are all evaporated by that point, glossed over by some weird attempt at Philly Soul that doesn't work. Never heard Ain't But the One Way.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

"Heard Ya Missed Me" isn't that bad, it grows on you! Some great basslines!

Tom D., Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

High On You is not "fantastic" — it pretty clearly runs out of gas early on. But the first two cuts (title track and esp. "Crossword Puzzle") are serious highlights. Back on the Right Track sounds a little bit like Car Wash, with a few good tunes and some great organ comping. It's worth hearing if for no other reason than "It Takes All Kinds," which is so smacked out/"I've-been-up-for-six-weeks-straight" it makes There's a Riot Goin' On sound like Enya.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Cos Enya DOESN'T sound like fucking heroin-womb music???????

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 2 September 2008 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

small talk is underrated. been playing it all week. its basically the riot/fresh sound continued, but with strange violins and strings that could be potentially over-sappy but arent. the strings seem almost put on there to sound more like other records of the time/more polished - maybe to hide some of the records flaws, not sure, but it just gives it a more sympathetic edge and makes it sound quite diff to his other records.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 5 November 2009 08:49 (fourteen years ago) link

has anyone read the eddie santiago or jeff kaliss books?

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 5 November 2009 08:55 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, small talk is rad. is that the album with 'crossword puzzle'?

like moses, the townfolk like the red sea (stevie), Thursday, 5 November 2009 09:34 (fourteen years ago) link

No, that's "High On You". As for the strings, there was a violin player in the band at the time I think?

I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 November 2009 09:46 (fourteen years ago) link

High On You is wonderful. The last great album he made

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 5 November 2009 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

the oldies station here plays "thank you (falletinme be mice elf agin" p much everytime i listen to it. this is a dope thing imo.

The Reverend, Friday, 17 September 2010 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahaha based on strength of these quotes i might just have to buy for the record

prettylikealaindelon, Friday, 17 September 2010 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link

it's out of print fwiw

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 September 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

did they ever do "maybe your baby"?

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 September 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

there are plenty of used copies going around anyway.

prettylikealaindelon, Friday, 17 September 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I highly recommend it

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 September 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

if just for the bit where Sly's pitbull Gun tries to eat his baby, and his wife (at the time) has to wrestle the kid away from the dog and flee the house

Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 September 2010 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Just pulled down Listen to the Voices: Sly Stone in the Studio 1965-1970, which collects all his production work from that time period -- and frankly, OMG. There's a pretty awesome sampling of all the work he was doing at the time -- one of the Beau Brummels tracks sounds like Sly producing the Byrds.

But the real treasure trove on this is the circa-1970 Stone Flower stuff. The sound of There's a Riot Goin' On is there--all the Maestro King drum machines, wah guitars and clavinets, etc. plugged in direct--but the vibe as a whole is not quite as despairing. It's all great -- highlights including Joe Hicks' "Life and Death in the G&A" and 6IX's "Dynamite" and "I'm Just Like You" (the latter of which has a drum machine part one review I read described as a windshield wiper).

In particular, tho, Little Sister's "You're the One (Parts 1 + 2)" is just about one of the best things Sly ever did -- the amazing ensemble vocals, an incredible groove and an outstanding tune. It's unbelievable that this stuff hasn't been reissued until now.

Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Yp2LIAGCk&feature=related

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 6 March 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link

"You're the One" is indeed awesome (I've had the original 7" for awhile) - there was a different, more disco-fied version issued in the late 70s, apparently

You hurt me deeply. You hurt me deeply in my heart. (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 6 March 2011 03:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i so so so wish little sister had completed an album. stanga and somebody's watching you are astonishing.

I'd rather climb into the saddle of my Ford Mustang and sink spurs (stevie), Sunday, 6 March 2011 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, if you like Sly and you don't have that comp you are totally missing out. The Joe Hicks version of "Life and Death" is just insane. Oh and finding the "Somebody's Watching You"/"Stanga" 45 for a buck was a recent triumph.

Aquarian Necromancer Octopus (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 6 March 2011 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh and finding the "Somebody's Watching You"/"Stanga" 45 for a buck was a recent triumph.

this is the sort of story that might inspire me to start trawling dusty record stores again...

I'd rather climb into the saddle of my Ford Mustang and sink spurs (stevie), Sunday, 6 March 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link

how did i miss that 65-70 compilation?? Imma go get that now. thank you!

historyyy (prettylikealaindelon), Sunday, 6 March 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

OMG, 20 seconds into the 65-70 comp and I'm sold. Best purchase this week!

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 6 March 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

One of my fave comps of the last few years!

A happenstance discovery of asynchronous lesbians (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 6 March 2011 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link

How did I miss this? That does look good.

curmudgeon, Monday, 7 March 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it's a bit more uneven than people are making it out to be, but there is some real gold on there, stuff that's been unavailable/out of print for ages

You hurt me deeply. You hurt me deeply in my heart. (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 7 March 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm not saying every track is bee's knees -- the Stone Flower stuff pretty much lords over the rest of it. But most of it is pretty-good-to-great. I also enjoy the vampy version of "You Really Got Me."

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 7 March 2011 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...
three months pass...

that is very sad.

curmudgeon, Monday, 26 September 2011 12:41 (twelve years ago) link

I want to say in that MOJO piece a couple of years ago that he was living in semi-squalor even then. Anyway, the guy's nuts and an addict. But most guys don't carry around a "get out of poverty" card like he does. If he could get his act together, he could play a few shows. But even Gil-Scott was doing better than this ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 September 2011 12:45 (twelve years ago) link

resonance had an hour or two about sly stone, sometime, um, within the last year that's really worth checking out.

Crackle Box, Monday, 26 September 2011 12:50 (twelve years ago) link

cocaine is so awesome!

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

ugh wtf.

tylerw, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

I'd like to see the documentary they mention, but it looks like it barely played anywhere. It's only 74 minutes long, has eight IMDB ratings, and debuted on Netherlands television.

clemenza, Monday, 26 September 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

wow, that's bad. He's basically like the homeless dude on our block, with about the same support network (ie neighbors).

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

If you're curious about what Sly's camper van era recordings sound like, here's a taste

Apparently there's a new album, mostly reworkings of catalogue material with special guests. Wish I could have been a fly on the wall when he crammed Ann Wilson into the van. Okay maybe not. More good news: it's on Cleopatra Records. Further good news: dubstep mix of Family Affair. That'll get Gaga's attention.

Mike Love's Jagger (Spectrist), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

oh good autotune

Air Supply dwarf belts helpless Packers fan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

Apparently there's a new album, mostly reworkings of catalogue material with special guests. Wish I could have been a fly on the wall when he crammed Ann Wilson into the van. Okay maybe not. More good news: it's on Cleopatra Records. Further good news: dubstep mix of Family Affair. That'll get Gaga's attention.

...please tell me you're kidding.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Ned, I'm so sorry, but the universe from which I am transmitting this news is not in some alternate parallel plane.

Mike Love's Jagger (Spectrist), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

My brain. Do you have a direct link to this info anywhere? People must be warned.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

It's called (wait for it...) "I'm Back: Family and Friends" and here is the amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/Back-Family-Friends-Sly-Stone/dp/B0057JWWFU

Mike Love's Jagger (Spectrist), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

^^it got like, three stars in Rolling Stone.

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

so, almost as good as the SuperHeavy album then

Air Supply dwarf belts helpless Packers fan (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 September 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah there was a display for this at Barnes & Noble, I picked it up and gave a firm shake of my head.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 26 September 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

Sly is not credited as having played on the remake tracks; aside from the guest cameos the instruments were all played by Jurgen Engler and Chris Lietz. Hadn't heard of them but Wikipedia tells me they're former members of the German industrial rock band Die Krupps.

fit and working again, Monday, 26 September 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

It's available on spotify if you're a masochist http://open.spotify.com/album/52C9QFWsfF3Kzb8riRPJzj if you thought that 'Dance To The Music' really needed Ray Manzarek to noodle all over it then it might be for you I guess.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 26 September 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

If you're curious about what Sly's camper van era recordings sound like, here's a taste

this is awesome?
seriously i would buy a record of this, it totally has the kinda slinky shuffly thing i love the most about sly. am really surprised + wanna hear more

mr. vertical (schlump), Monday, 26 September 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link


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