Kanye vs. Taylor Swift: Dumbest beef of all time

yeah i'm guessing that's how the cold open for the SNL premiere will go

She'll interrupt and then bang out her own verse.

Or, you know, Kanye will just be hungover and give a rote performance.

wish I'd have thought of that.

Can we start shifting this thread into a lil mama discussion as well?

Are you trying to T-Pain me?

@textsfromlastnight (404): i hope kanye doesn't show up to patrick swayze's funeral. " i'll let you get back to your funeral in a minute...but michael jackson had the best death of the year. just sayinnn

i was just IMed a 4chan comic depicting that exact same thing ugh

i was just IMed a 4chan comic depicting that exact same thing ugh

― Alex, Lord Autogoon (some dude), Monday, September 14, 2009 8:48 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Obama calls Kanye a jackass: http://www.politico.com/click/stories/0909/did_obama_call_kanye_a_jackass.html

haha!

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Twitter trending topic right now:

RT @KanyeWest: "YO PATRICK SWAYZE I KNOW U JUST DIED & ALL & IMMA LET U FINISH, BUT MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEATH WAS THE BEST ONE THIS YEAR!"
September 14, 2009 10:14:03 PM
from TwitterFon

I voted for Obama and all, but I don't know how I feel about a president who watches the VMAs

I'm glad Kanye is standing up for musical underdogs like Beyonce. Somebody's gotta help the up-and-coming artists out.

Get 'em while they're still hot

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whiney i'm really proud of you i'ma let you finish but strongo had one of the best dramatic re-entrances of all time

adults watch this shit?

Kanye's only justifiable comment wd've been "Barack Obama doesn't care about black people."

kanye v obama best beef ever

kanye on leno kinda painful to watch

kanye crashing the stage was a dick move (although i'm too entertained to be mad at him) but bringing up his mother was worse than anything kanye did yesterday. ick.

concur, even if Kanye made his mother's death a prominent part of his whole public persona at the time, that's his right as 1) an artist and 2) a guy who's dealing with a huge loss. it's not for anybody else to wave that at him

on the other hand, Kanye not really in any position to tell anybody to quit bein' a dick

I can't believe I learned Patrick Swayze died via 4chan joeks

Kanye referred to what "my mother would've said" in his first blog apology, don't think it was necessarily off-limits or surprising for Leno to go there.

what did he say

i can't believe people are complaining about 4chan-style jokes on a thread about kanye doing something cuh-ray at the VMAs. what were you hoping to find on this thread exactly?

I can't believe I learned Patrick Swayze died via 4chan joeks

I'm actually surprised you didn't learn about it via WoW.

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I can't believe I learned Patrick Swayze died via 4chan joeks

was thinking this same thing.

I can't believe Patrick Swayze died via 4chan joeks

i can't believe 4chan jokes havent died

I've never been one of those guys with Beyonce posters on the bedroom wall but hot damn does she look adorable in every one of the GIFs posted.

I can't believe I learned Patrick Swayze died via 4chan joeks

― so says i tranny ben franklin (HI DERE), Monday, September 14, 2009 11:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

"I voted for Obama and all, but I don't know how I feel about a president who watches the VMAs"

As if you had to watch the VMAs to hear about this incident.

...OK I'm bored with the TMZ drama now.

Jay Leno is like an unironic take on Bill Murray's "phony show biz" persona.

adults watch this shit?

thank god morbz was here to opine on the worth of something that he didn't and wouldn't see

i can't believe people are complaining about 4chan-style jokes on a thread about kanye doing something cuh-ray at the VMAs. what were you hoping to find on this thread exactly?

― mountain G.O.A.T. (s1ocki), Monday, September 14, 2009 11:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, those people are so...cuh-ray...?

Look, I am as bored of this story as anybody here, but there's a new development about this all being a stunt planned by Jay-z.

And, no, I don't have deep connections in hip-hop (surprise! surprise!), but I do have someone who works for Jay-Z blabbing away on a small, private message board somewhere over the internet rainbow. *drudge sirens* I'll post his thread if you want.

"if people boo kanye they will go out and buy blueprint 3. its brilliant"

Topic one about it:

i was talking to a friend who works in development at mtv and was at the vmas last night, she said that "the outburst wasn't unexpected" but refused to give more details. and some other things that basically hinted that mtv planned the whole thing for attention xfd

That's totally separate from the JayZ employee, but I know that guy personally and he's legit. Here's the Jay-Z employee blabbing away on his own thread:

This was all a huge publicity stunt set up by Jay-Z. MTV wanted him to perform at the end of the show and he said on one condition - they gave Beyonce a performance and made her look good. And so, the whole Taylor Swift fiasco was born. Jay called up Kanye and asked him to do it for him because Kanye doesn't mind being seen as a jackass and it'd be believable if he did it. So when Beyonce let Taylor finish her speech instead of making her own speech, everyone thought "Wow, Beyonce really is a class act!" and Jay-Z finished off the show with his performance.

Jay also did a similar thing with Oprah. He told Oprah that the only way Beyonce would go on her show was if she also allowed Jay on because Oprah never had a rapper on her show before.

Basically, Jay-Z is leveraging his relationship with Beyonce for more fame/recognition and vice versa.

I could also go into why he made Blueprint 3 if you want.

Here are the rests of his posts.

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I could also go into why he made Blueprint 3 if you want.

sure do it

Quite simply, look at the featured artists on BP3. He has a large stake in GOOD Music, which is Kanye's label and both Kid Cudi and Mr. Hudson are signed to it. Similarly, Roc Nation is his label and J. Cole is signed to it and he was trying to sign Drake to Roc Nation too for around 2 million dollars, but that fell through. Alicia Keys is on it because she's dating Swizz Beatz and Luke Steele is on it for the indie fans (also why Jay was seen at Grizzly Bear with Beyonce).

Blueprint 3 is just Jay-Z's investment plan.

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Taylor Swift was chosen for obvious reasons: She has the country fanbase locked up and was up for a lesser award against Beyonce.

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Except for the fact that she loved the idea and happily went along with it.

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From: ************* 18 | Posted: 9/14/2009 09:49:15 PM
i dont know why kanye would sacrifice his image

Watch the Jay Leno show tonight to understand why. He also doesn't give a fuck.

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From: ******** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:18:00 PM
how many cars were in his motorcade? i know the answer, do you?

6, led by Jay in his Maybach iirc

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From: ***** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:24:12 PM
but according to ***** (and my friend), it was scripted

afaik, T-Swizzy knew about it, the whole Jay crew knew about it, and the producers knew about it. I don't recall any producers freaking out over it, but that was probably scripted too if they did.

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From: ***** X | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:36:45 PM
couldn't it have been just a thing kept between rocknation's people and not having anything to do with MTV at all?

In order for Jay to perform, Beyonce needed to get great publicity. Why do you think Taylor come out with microphone in hand from backstage as if she knew it was gonna happen when Beyonce called on her?

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I have no clue what went down at mtv, just the deal Jay struck

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From: **** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:54:46 PM
Did you see Kanye on Leno? He was dummbbbbfounded. Because that's just the way he is. Jay-Z could have done that but Kanye isn't that good of an actor I don't think.

Also staged to get the sympathy vote and also take a well-deserved vacation.

From: ******** | Posted: 9/14/2009 10:56:47 PM
kanye seemed like he was doing it just to cause a stir, imo.

i don't know if it's been asked, but why would you post all that if you work for them?

We're leaking it to the tabloids anyways for more publicity and for Jay-Z to be seen as a genius.

Everyone wins.

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veeeeeeeery interesting.. some more proof of any kind wouldnt hurt though

It should be on MTO in the next few days, I'll make sure to link it if it is.

But it seems they want to play the Jay-Z/Rihanna relationship angle right now because they hate Jay with a passion and always claim Beyonce hates him.

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www.mediatakeout.com

Its like Perez Hilton or National Enquirer for black people pretty much.

I feel like a bit of a moron spending ten minutes bringing all that here, but that's it so far. There were some other posts on verifying the guy as a legit employee of Jay-Z but I didn't post that. He posted pictures and all sorts of lame crap, though.

really doesn't need to be a conspiracy theory explaining this. there needs to be a conspiracy theory to explain any moment kanye west is on live tv and doesn't do something like this.

I love the parallel this whole thing has to pro-wresting, right down to Kanye's outburst working in conjunction with Kanye needing a reason to be out of the spotlight or vacation.

Next album a sort of "Collision Course" but with indie artists lol

But wait, what do the racists think of all this?

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2009/09/and_now_a_far_l.php

That thread sounds like dude is totally 100% full of shit. I'd be shocked if it turned out to be true.

XP Guys, not everything is racist. (Tho those twitters definitely are.)

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that is a stupider conspiracy theory than 9/11 truther-ism

seriously