If you love Plan B so much why don't you marry it?
― 597, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 09:58 (sixteen years ago) link
someone's just made a very good point - what about lily allen? i'm sure it fits in with this year's catchment area...
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link
it's complete shit?
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 11:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Scott Walker counts as American right?
― acrobat, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 11:19 (sixteen years ago) link
as an American, yes.
― Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link
i'll never understand the lily hate. it's one of the best pop albums of the last decade!
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 11:40 (sixteen years ago) link
compared to kate nash, yes. compared to albums which are actually good, no.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 11:42 (sixteen years ago) link
though lily is v good on the dizzee album!
i dunno, seems just a token sales-boost/cred-boost exchange - how many gal MCs would've made that track so much better?
tho i enjoyed her performance of 'Gangsters' with Terry 'Utterly Thrilled To Be Here In My Nice Suit Wait Why Are My Feet Stuck Firm To The Floor?' Hall on repeat of Glasto coverage
― blueski, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 12:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Parlophone Seals Bat For Lashes Deal http://tinyurl.com/32c5bp
EMI and Capitol labels will carry forthcoming Bat For Lashes' forthcoming releases internationally, while Astralwerks will issue the artist's critically-acclaimed debut "Fur and Gold" in the U.S. on July 31.
― djmartian, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 12:28 (sixteen years ago) link
'it's complete shit' is the worst explanation for why an album isn't in MMP noms list ever. same time next year!
― blueski, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 12:29 (sixteen years ago) link
bat for lashes ftw!
look at the evidence:
1. female (not had one since polly) 2. asian (not had one since talvin) 3. posh (not had one since...um) 4. suddenly well positioned to exploit resulting publicity (international potential recognised by industry) 5. arty but accessible thanks to the (misleading but powerful) Bjork/Bush factor 6. that's it
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:21 (sixteen years ago) link
she looks a lot like lily allen in her video
― blueski, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:25 (sixteen years ago) link
that's no.6 then!
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Lily Allen's album was supposedly one of the 'missed' albums last year.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:40 (sixteen years ago) link
yep, a year ago this happened..
http://tinyurl.com/2pzszv
British singer LILY ALLEN's record company have consoled their protege with a surprise cash bonus after the singer missed out on a prestigious nomination for the Mercury Music Prize. With her debut single SMILE topping the British charts, bosses at Allen's label Parlophone were stunned when the funky star failed to be honoured with a nod. So they awarded Allen anyway - with a $37,000 (GBP20,000) payout. An industry source tells British newspaper the Daily Star, "Everyone in the Lily camp is really proud of her success. Going straight to number one with Smile is a massive achievement for her and the way she's handled the fame is admirable." "Behind the scenes it was widely expected Lily would be on the Mercury list as she's an innovative performer with genuine lyrics. Her label thought the Mercury's would love her. When the nominees came through, Lily was naturally a bit dismayed but didn't let it get her down. "But her team thought that she had deserved a perk and have put $37,000 in her bank account."
― djmartian, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link
bloody hell. i wonder if my boss will do the same for me this year, since i wasn't nominated...
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:55 (sixteen years ago) link
DrownedinSound jump on the bandwagon of suggesting an alternative shortlist
The Weekly DiScussion: our alternative Mercury list... http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/2208724
― djmartian, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link
it was widely expected Lily would be on the Mercury list as she's an innovative performer with genuine lyrics
they are, genuinely, lyrics.
xpost
dj martian: 'we invented the shortlist'
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link
shit, The Twilight Sad album should be right up there.
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link
i just googled them. please tell me they are a parody band. track titles:
1. But When She Left, Gone Was the Glow 2. That Summer, At Home I Had Become the Invisible Boy 3. Last Year's Rain Didn't Fall Quite So Hard 4. And She Would Darken the Memory 5. Three Seconds of Air
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link
no they are Very Serious but Inspirationally Freeform musicians. Live, they're kinda incredble, and on headphones they'll fling your mind around like a shuttlecock.
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Why do people even care about this joke of a prize?
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Mercury,Brits,NME,Kerrang Awards , don't need any of them. Fuck them all.
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Twilight Sad sound like Idlewild taking the piss out of Belle & Sebastian. They're not as dreadful as that sounds, though.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:44 (sixteen years ago) link
singer has a HARDCORE scottish accent, certainly.
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm not sure I'd want to hear that though!
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
they have the worst most transparently b&s titles ever.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link
wtf is this shit, that's repulsive
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
word
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link
B&S is HUGE red herring here, folks.
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Three seconds too much amirite?!? xpost
― DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link
The Brigadier has a point, I recommend instead listen to The Mirimar Disaster from Sheffield who in 2007 released the best British complex-intense-math-metal album since Earthtone 9 - arc'tan'gent in 2000.
The Mirimar Disaster http://www.myspace.com/themirimardisaster
― djmartian, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link
the best British complex-intense-math-metal album since Earthtone 9 - arc'tan'gent in 2000
so say the flyposters
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy
Haven't you been posting end of year polls from all these for months?
― onimo, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
But yeah, hats off to DiS for getting to heart of the matter of these things; it doesn't matter whether your 'alternatives' are better or more innovative, just that they're different to the ones that actually got nominated
― DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Damn - what a sorry list. Wouldn't this money be better spent on black magic to resurrect Freddie Mercury?
― BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Who wants to live forever?
― onimo, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link
ha I remember reading last year on the web some wacky yank journo thought that the Mercury awards were named have Freddie Mercury ! (When they were originally sponsored by a now long gone telecommunications company.)
― djmartian, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Some wacky Welsh based journo writing about the Mercury prize 2007 shortlist, this article is so unintentionally funny:
http://tinyurl.com/2g37ff Does Mercury Prize leave you feeling old?
Jul 18 2007
by Sarah Miloudi, Western Mail
― djmartian, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link
home is where the harp is!
― CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Haha, Huw Stephens pretending he's only heard of 'most' of the noms aside from tokenclassicalers
― DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I wonder if Chair of judges Simon Frith remembers writing this in 1985?
"What really drives student entrepreneurs into a premature commercial detachment is their audiences. Every new ents officer learns from first-term results; black music has no student draw; known bands are preferred to unknown bands; no one in the student union cares who the latest critical cult figures are. Students are the great, middle-class, middle-brow bastion of British rock and, after twenty years, their tastes aren't about to be shaken."
Probably not...
The weird thing about the Mercury prize is that they don't get different judges every time. This year is Lauren Laverne's 2nd go-round at least and someone else, whose name I've annoyingly forgotten, has done it FOUR times!
― Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Edith Bowman?
― blueski, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I enjoyed Terry Hall at Glastonbury too. I thought it was going to be a real Specials-obsessed festival at one point, with Winehouse and Allen both doing Specials songs, but that was it, as far as I know.
― PJ Miller, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link
the thing with that frith quote is: OK, but who *does* care about the latest critical cult figures? if students are the m-c, m-b bastion blah blah blah, who is the avant-garde? wire readers i guess. seems to be people older than students with more disposable income, in their own way just as conformist.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Frith wrote that in 1985. I guess things have changed for him since. And everyone else.
― Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Oops, I laready said he wrote it in 1985. That's coz I use the bookmark feature and so cannot see beyond the last post marked.
Winehouse will walk it this year.
― Raw Patrick, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
597 please will you shutfuckup
― whatever, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link
); I'm just a rascal.
― 597, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link