EMP Pop Conference 2007: Ready for more?

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So does the "continental breakfast" consist of "Bloody Marys at the Revolution Bar"?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

such a good time! really glad i came. so nice to meet everyone. ned, michael, rodney, alfred, jaq, mr.jaq, nate, senor donut bitch, dave stelfox, sheesh, so many people.

such a fun dinner tonight with geeta, simon, mark.s, cosmo lee, and others. tomorrow i destroy matos manor!!!!!

― scott seward, Saturday, 21 April 2007 07:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey I thought you said you were meeting up with family! That said I do not begrudge you another meal with those good folks. :-) A bunch of us ended up doing dinner, then record shopping, then karaoke! That was...a tale.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 21 April 2007 07:58 (seventeen years ago) link

the karaoke was really fun for about two and a quarter hours. then the entire Greek system of greater Washington showed up. ah well, should've figured that would happen at Ozzie's. still, a very good day. Jesse Fuchs's presentation on videogames and music was one of the very best I've seen at any EMP, and Douglas Wolk on Clydie King was nearly as good. looking forward to tomorrow.

― Matos W.K., Saturday, 21 April 2007 08:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Two and a quarter hours? So that's how long I spent in Easy Street after you all left for Ozzie's.

And then when I went to Ozzie's and you were gone, naturally I went back to Easy Street.

― Nick Minichino, Saturday, 21 April 2007 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link

matos texted me last night about karaoke and i made the u_u face

except in real life

― strongohulkington, Saturday, 21 April 2007 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

snippy reports from the conference here (i'm guessing the ilm regulars will have a diferent take)
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/artsentertainment/2003674612_popcon1.html?syndication=rss

― gershy, Sunday, 22 April 2007 04:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm guessing the ilm regulars will have a diferent take

That puts it fucking mildly.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 April 2007 08:38 (seventeen years ago) link

don't listen to ned. he's drunk!

― scott seward, Sunday, 22 April 2007 08:54 (seventeen years ago) link

everyone i met and spent time with this weekend rules so much. what a great bunch of people.

― scott seward, Sunday, 22 April 2007 09:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay to that!

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

This conference ruled. I wish I'd had greater stamina to take in more of the talks. It was amazing to meet all y'all in person.

― Maria :D, Sunday, 22 April 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I take it that no one made it to continental breakfast this morning.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

not me. still recovering from matosfest. but then i have a cold too. will be there for the last thing at 11 though.

― scott seward, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Same here.

Matos, thanks for the party. I danced too much. My hips hurt.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

pics plz

― Tim Ellison, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:45 (seventeen years ago) link

So what were your favorite panels/papers?

― Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

the panel I moderated yesterday was good all over, but I was especially into Maura's freestyle talk and the Brian Goedde and Elena Passarello one. Brian interviewed Iowan hip-hop kids and Elena, an actor, read the edited transcripts-cum-monologues. riveting and funny and touching.

― Matos W.K., Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:38 (seventeen years ago) link

http://seattle.metblogs.com/archives/2007/04/saturday_agenda_10.phtml Some photos with this Sat. April 21st blog posting about a few panels by someone named Josh

― curmudgeon, Sunday, 22 April 2007 21:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Scott, how did I manage not to meet you and Maria at Matos' house? Sigh.

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 23 April 2007 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Good god, Rickey, all you had to do is ask me. I think I introduced everyone to everyone else twice over.

So what were your favorite panels/papers?

Quite a few. I'll say more with coherence. Ending discussion was very cool too, chimed in briefly myself.

Didn't really make the continental breakfast but showed up towards the end. We were taking it easy...

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 April 2007 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost
what do you look like?

― Maria :D, Monday, 23 April 2007 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still here with Mike Powell, sorta taking it easy. I'd like to go home though.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 April 2007 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link

really wished I had stayed longer -- ended up w/dinner date in OR, so I missed just about everything >>>:(

but what little i saw was fun!

― Dominique, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:00 (seventeen years ago) link

plus I met Ned!

― Dominique, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i missed your presentation, dominique. and you!

and you too rickey!

i thought i would get a chance to meet everyone i wanted to meet.

missed d.wolk too!!!

maybe next year.

i mostly spent my time this weekend talking to that ex-nme ex-melody maker tag-team of mark s. and simon r. and it was my pleasure to do so as they are both lovely people.

and the lovely ned of course. ned you r a whirlwind!!! :)))))

― scott seward, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:13 (seventeen years ago) link

:-D Well, it's just me. :-) But thanks!

Alfred, where the heck were ya? We just got back from an amazing Vietnamese meal.

I'm about ready to collapse but more thoughts tomorrow, hopefully. But it was really enjoyable and intense, the whole weekend.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 April 2007 05:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Exhaustion verging on collapse, Ned (did a walking tour of Belltown, Downtown, and a few parts beyond). I don't think I could have strung together a single coherent sentence tonight, let alone about rockcrit.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 23 April 2007 05:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Alfred, I figured you'd just curl up somewhere quiet in the Elliott Bay basement, surrounded by books until morning. Have safe journeys home everyone!

― Jaq, Monday, 23 April 2007 05:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, Seattle Times dude doesn't get anything, does he?

Great to meet Scott and Maria, and to see everyone else again.

I feel like I missed more this year than last even though I attended more panels -- lots and lots of double or triple-bookings, hard choices of which panel to make this year.

Enjoyed presentations by Peter Doyle, Erik Davis, Ned Sublette and RJ Smith the most. And the dude who did the minstrelsy and Hawaiian music thing was pretty righteous too.

― Mike McGooney-gal, Monday, 23 April 2007 06:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I missed Doyle, Davis & Smith, and am sorry I missed them, because all are superb speakers. But yeah, the triple-booking made me miss a LOT this year. (I do owe Erik for his great phrase "waspafarian," though, I added that to the paper I did.)

No, Times guy does not get anything at all.

― Matos W.K., Monday, 23 April 2007 07:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds like everything went well; wish I could've been there. (I woke up this morning in Omaha and am somehow miraculously at my desk in Chicago right now.)

If anyone has papers that they're now posting online somewhere, I'd love to read them.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I am particularly curious about Christgau's paper, anyone hear that?

― Mark Rich@rdson, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I missed X-Gau, double-booking vs. the Wu-Tang panel, etc.

I only really caught Thursday's and Saturday's events, having been otherwise occupied Friday and being way too out of it yesterday (long night, long story). But there were still a lot of highlights, though. I really liked the Lethem's opening speech, the Wu stuff, Henry Chalfant's Bronx film, Maura's freestyle presentation, and Jeff Chang's paper on Boogaloo. The aforementioned Iowan hiphop presentation is my favorite. (I am in luv with Elena, btw. She is a wonderful woman.)

It was great meeting you Scott, Maria, Alfred, Rickey, Jaq/Mr. Jaq, Michael, Nick, Eric, (and anyone forgotten) and always glad to see the few faces I already knew!

― The Reverend, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

But...though.

Yikes, I'm still recovering from that long night.

― The Reverend, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Was Maura rapping or something?

― Mark Rich@rdson, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Here are my notes from Christgau. As they are for my own reference they are semi-incoherent. But feel free to ask.

Anthony Michio’s plot to throw the poll to Hinder. Ego trip guys almost did it. Consensus is theoretical. Josh Clover: Pazz & Jop: “ideological bastion of retrograde values and tokenism.” Christgau on '06: “It’ll be better than nothing…and I could go to Puerto Rico.” Most boycotters Christgau’s (aka elder) peers? Indie rock: “solipsistic prog, sinful cynicism.” ad for Dennis Lin’s job: “we’re not looking for a film scholar or historian.” On Blum: “I read his whole book because I thought he was going to be my boss.” Under-30s didn’t include Decemberists in top 25: “That’s a surprise—and a cautionary one, if I were a Decemberist.” “Not that alt-rock has abandoned legible songs…” Maybe it’s asking too much to expect put-upon” youths to reflect on mortality like Dylan. “Maybe they’ll catch on in their 30s—like I did with country.” Two types of people: people who maintain ongoing lists throughout the year vs. people who can’t remember what came out before September. Residual vs. emergent culture (Raymond Williams) Clover: but what about dominant? Don’t the residuals pretend toward dominance (which enrages the emergent)? “The blogging fools.”

― Nick Minichino, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Was Maura rapping or something?

: D

Only in the old sense of the word.

― The Reverend, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Favorite song discovered through EMP conference = Ray Berretto's "Together"

― The Reverend, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

other people i was happy to meet: dylan hicks, andy beta, maura (did i say maura already? and i feel bad that i missed her freestyle thing. i'll bet it was hottt)

people i didn't introduce myself to cuz i didn't feel like it even though i probably would have had things to talk to them about: xgau, greil marcus, joshua clover, david grubbs.

― scott seward, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Rodney, did you hear that in the boogaloo, etc., panel? I deeply regret missing that one, especially after hearing my friend Jill rave about it. I just downloaded Barretto's Hard Hands album from eMusic last week after seeing it mentioned on another thread here. Off to look for "Together" now . . .

― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, the boogaloo presentation. (And my correction, it was Oliver Wang, not Jeff Chang.) It was all I could do not to raise up out of my seat and start dancing wildly.

― The Reverend, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

(And our freakish vulcan mindmeld continues apace.)

― The Reverend, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:49 (seventeen years ago) link

hi ilm,

does anyone who went to the techno panel remember what maurizio and code 6 tracks geeta dayal played? i am trying to track down some of the new to me things i heard over the weekend, and my shitty notees aren't helping too much. more people should have been like maura johnston and handed out awesome mix cds!

― rmd, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

“The blogging fools.”

I've got lots of love for Xgau - and I'm honored by the shoutout - but when his Pazz'n'Jop ballot features as many A-list perennials as it did this year, I dunno if he should go around calling people names. Sonic Youth, Bob Dylan, Ornette, Ghostface, NEW YORK DOLLS AT NUMBER ONE - dude doesn't sound like he challenged his own assumptions much this year either.

(and it's Miccio, btw)

― da croupier, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:57 (seventeen years ago) link

last year, rather.

― da croupier, Monday, 23 April 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, yeah, obvs. it would be two c's. Thanks for the correction.

― Nick Minichino, Monday, 23 April 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha no prob! When I heard about it I was hoping he pronounced it correctly, so I was glad to see your typo.

― da croupier, Monday, 23 April 2007 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

"more people should have been like maura johnston and handed out awesome mix cds!"

i was totally gonna do this. but it was just too last minute an idea. i regret it a little. but not much. i should have told maura when i saw her that i got a great e-mail last week from 80's freestyle vocalist princesa.

― scott seward, Monday, 23 April 2007 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought about making a collage of Marley posters but backed out. I also considered bringing up a Frisbee and hacky sack and putting a red "banned" (circle w/slash) in front of them, and eating a weed brownie, both ideas I rejected as well.

― Matos W.K., Monday, 23 April 2007 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

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