― Scotto (Scotto), Saturday, 8 May 2004 00:12 (twenty years ago) link
Well, not exactly. Bossas and sambas are in 2, not 4. If you count bossas--including "Busy Doin'"--in 4, it becomes a fast 4/8, or 8/8, not 4/4. You can hear the "boom" of the 1 and 2 in "Busy" quite clearly. You're right about it being, at times, a convenience, but in bossa nova it's just the way the music is structured. "Waters of March" by Jobim is notable as one of his few songs that are actually in 4/4.
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 8 May 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link
We can make room for it by getting rid of "Kiss From a Rose" and "How Can I Be Sure" (and maybe more), which are in 6/8, not 3/4.
― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 3 June 2005 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 4 June 2005 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link
This song isn't in 3/4, so:
Beach Boys - Friends
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Saturday, 4 June 2005 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 4 June 2005 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Nat King Cole: "It's All in the Game"
― Burr (Burr), Saturday, 4 June 2005 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― ross tinney, Saturday, 4 June 2005 08:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― ross tinney, Saturday, 4 June 2005 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keith C (kcraw916), Saturday, 4 June 2005 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Saturday, 4 June 2005 13:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Saturday, 4 June 2005 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 4 June 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Cuddly Cactus, Saturday, 4 June 2005 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
"The Whole World" does not have a time signature change, and I'm positive that it's in 4/4 throughout the whole song, but it's 4/4 with a swing feel that makes it feel like a sped-up 3/4 measure appears in every beat of the song.
There's a small amount of modern rock bands who owe their success to 3/4 and 6/8 time, including A Perfect Circle ("Judith," "Three Libras"), Chevelle ("The Red," "Closure") and AFI ("Silver And Cold").
Weezer has a decent amount of high-quality 3/4 and 6/8 tracks, including "No Other One," "Devotion," "Waiting On You," and the Rentals' "Naive." (The aforementioned "Holiday" appears to be in 4/4.)
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 4 June 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 4 June 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― The plastic yoghurt guns of Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 4 June 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
My favorite waltzes of all time are Randy Newman's theme to Ragtime and "I Dreamt I Dwelt in Marble Halls" by M. W. Balfe (slaughtered by Enya in The Age of Innocence, but still one of my all-time favorite songs...)
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 4 June 2005 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― jeri curlan, Sunday, 5 June 2005 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 5 June 2005 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 5 June 2005 11:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Sunday, 5 June 2005 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Pavement, "Stop Breathin'"Death Cab for Cutie, "No Joy in Mudville"Stereolab, "Pop Quiz"High Llamas, "Three Point Scrabble"Clem Snide, "Your Night to Shine"Beck, "Dead Melodies"Blonde Redhead, "Loved Despite of Great Faults"Rachel's, "The Mysterious Disappearance of Louis LePrince"Ben Folds Five, "Boxing"Black Heart Procession, "The Invitation"Nick Drake, "Saturday Sun"Pullman, "Lysayna"Badly Drawn Boy, "Stone on the Water"
― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 5 June 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Keith C (kcraw916), Sunday, 5 June 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
"Perpetual Change" by Yes (on the live Yessongs album) has a great middle bit jam in 3/4 time. Bruford drumming. I steal that.
"Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers in That Quiet Earth" has a very nice, long drawn early section in 3/4 time. Phil Collins has a cool beat going on there.
there are others
― FlametopFred, Friday, 6 June 2008 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link
In response to some posts a bit higher up, the Beatles did 3/4 for a few other tracks. Baby's in Black, You've Got to Hide Your Love Away, I Me Mine (on verses), She's Leaving Home. Probably some others. I don't know if I'd put any of them on a 100-best list, though.
As for Blur, for some reason the only one coming to mind is the Parklife b-side Theme From an Imaginary Film.
So my only contribution to the list for the time being is Elliott Smith - Between the Bars.
― asey, Sunday, 8 June 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link
(The aforementioned "Holiday" appears to be in 4/4.)
Holiday is 12/8.
You've Got to Hide Your Love Away is 6/8. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is 3/4.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Sunday, 8 June 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Black Sabbath-War Pigs (the intro)
― Bill Magill, Monday, 9 June 2008 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Replace with "No Other One."
― billstevejim, Monday, 9 June 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
"No Other One" is true 3/4 time throughout. The rest are 6/8.
― billstevejim, Monday, 9 June 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Can't believe nobody's mentioned the best cheesy waltz pop song: Tom Jones - What's New, Pussycat
― sparkletuna, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link
'This Boy' - The Beatles
― BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 13:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, is there any hip-hop in 3/4?
Was that rap in the Adams Family movie in 6/8 or something? "do what they wanna do say what they wanna say"
― RabiesAngentleman, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link
That's 12/8.
3/4 = ONE and two and three and 6/8 = ONE two three TWO two three 12/8 = ONE two three TWO two three THREE two three FOUR two three
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link
and 9/8 = ONE two three two two three three two three
Simple time signatures have beats that get broken into two parts, compound time signatures have beats that are broken into three parts. The basic beat in 3/4 is the quarter note, the basic beat in 6/8, 9/8, and 12/8 is the dotted quarter. 3/4 is simple triple (three quarter notes), 6/8 is compound duple (two dotted quarters), 9/8 is compound triple (three dotted quarters), 12/8 is compound quadruple (four dotted quarters).
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I turned my monitor upside down and tried reading that again and it still sounded like someone threw the silverware drawer down the steps.
― RabiesAngentleman, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link
6/8 = ONE two three TWO two three 12/8 = ONE two three TWO two three THREE two three FOUR two three
so wait, what's the difference between 12/8 and just going 'ONE two three TWO two three ONE two three TWO two three'? HOW CAN YOU TELL, aside from actually looking at the written music?
― asey, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 12:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Radiohead have a couple - Subterranean Homesick Alien and Nude, maybe more.
― chap, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 12:58 (fifteen years ago) link
12/8 and 6/8 sound a lot alike, depends on where you draw the bar line in the written music, like you said. In fact, most people would say "This Boy" is 6/8, not 12/8.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link
My text rendering of the time signatures didn't quite do them justice -- the difference between 6/8 and 12/8 is like the difference between 2/4 and 4/4. The former has two beats, strong and weak. The latter has four beats, strong, weak, medium, and weak. 12/8 is the typical meter for doo-wop music. I don't have a recording of This Boy handy, but in my Beatles book it's notated in 12/8.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Beach Boys - Let the Wind Blow Beatles - Baby's in Black Nilsson - 1941 Stereolab - One Small Step XTC - 1000 Umbrellas
― mumpsimus, Monday, 16 June 2008 04:43 (fifteen years ago) link
A 1/3 of Give It To You - Jordan Knight would qualify here. -- Barima (Barima), Tuesday, May 4, 2004 11:55 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
Seconded
― Tape Store, Monday, 16 June 2008 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Mull of Kintyre- WingsI actually learned to waltz to this one.
― JesseJane, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 08:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Sea Song by Doves
― alternative ballroom, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
The Beach Boys: Disney GirlsWeezer: My Name Is JonasThe Corrs: RunawayThe Eagles: Hollywood WaltzRazorlight: Los Angeles Waltz
― jorgybear, Saturday, 11 September 2010 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
'Waltz' by the Mekons, from The Curse Of The Mekons, is fantastic. If you don't know it, go listen to it right now. I am sure you will not regret it. Plus, Sally Timms sings it, beautifully.
― Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Sunday, 12 September 2010 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Fever Ray "I'm Not Done"
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento LLC (SNM), Sunday, 12 September 2010 08:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Tom Waits, "Another Man's Vine"
― Flergblergtennis (aog208), Sunday, 12 September 2010 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link
A really good one to waltz to is Open Arms, Journey and don't forget more Eagles: Saturday Night and Pretty Maid all in a Row. There are many country waltzs. I especially like, A woman has her way by Clint Black and When Love Finds you by vince Gill. Anyone interested in ballroom dancing to mank of the pop/rock hits mentioned above check out ballroombythebay.com A ballroom dance every Wed. at 7:00 p.m. in Santa Monica. For more info you can email ballroombythe✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧ Check it out! It's a lively group of friendly dancers and a dance lesson is included with the $10. admission. Tell them Rita sent you.
― rosareetie, Saturday, 22 January 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link