― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 27 April 2006 01:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 27 April 2006 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link
The Katy Rose verse is spoken, has yearning girlhood lyrics but is spoken with an affectlessness that reminds me of Kim Gordon or that guy in the Nails, Marc Campbell, who did "88 Lines About 44 Women" - an apparent affectlessness that actually contains attitude and emotion. W/ Kim the attitude felt subversive and potentially contemptuous, yet I also heard pain in it; with the Nails guy it was a snideness that got under the skin. Katy is neither snide nor contemptuous; her own thoughts are what she's grappling with, girl loneliness. But there's the same tenseness under the supposed affectlessness. And so her mannered poetry words don't feel mannered, they feel tough and smart, they feel like speech, even when the metaphors are strange and girly airy-fairy poetry: "I wish I could steal the moon/And kiss it with my feet." "I wish the raindrops on the glass would let me join their dance/I'd spin and twirl and laugh with them and drown my thoughts perchance." And then the chorus is Aly & A.J.-style harmony, but not liberatingly joyous in the "Rush" way, just intensified beauty, with an ominous guitar all through the song (this came out a year and a half before "Rush," however). Interesting track, seems to be a trap set doing the kick drum and snare, but with electro beats skittering around them. (I could be all wrong about the drums, however.) The other album-track clips on Allmusic tend to sound more whiny and bratty than this one, and not as intense (but pleasingly, tunefully whiny and bratty). One song has the lyric "Sittin' in Jayne Mansfield's car." I hope there's more to come from Katy.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 27 April 2006 04:40 (eighteen years ago) link
That Northern accent belongs to Sarah Blackwood, late of Dubstar, whose first album (Disgraceful) is very much required listening (if we could but YSI once more, then I'd be putting 'Anywhere' up because it is awesome). The other one in Client is possibly the wife of someone famous, possibly Alan McGee, but I can't really remember. Assuming you've heard their lone UK hit, 'Pornography' - the male voice on that is Carl Barat, ex-Libertines and current Dirty Pretty Things.
I bought the Katy Rose album, don't remember being much impressed with anything save for 'Overdrive' (the song with the Jayne Mansfield line).
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 27 April 2006 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link
I also want to heartily recommend the Stacey Evans cdbaby album I linked to above (especially "Roller Coaster," "Machine," and "The Last Beat," then I guess the hair-metal throwback ""Letting Them Keep You" and the Princely pop-psyched "Outshine the Sun") to all fans for Amy Grant's *Heart in Motion* and the first Roxette LP, among other things.
And my favorite non-single cuts on the Akon album turned out to be "Journey" and "Show Out." The latter's title reminds me of Mel & Kim, plus its lyrics quote "The Message."
finally, more Metal Mike, over the transom, not sure if sense can be made of this or not:
>does ANYONE have the japanese (only) Triple Image single (CD)? (long after the first album, ie post-album tune/single). never pulled the trigger to get the import...stuff one guy sent me years ago, it wasn't in the store so he blew (including it) off. i had the tune on my VV top 10 singles that year. what was it called? "Do It Now",some 3-word title. ha ha hahahahaha, Michelle Branch. from fall 2002, i still have a half-page color (music magazine) ad taped to the side of my bathroom mirror, the ad reading sideway left to right from bottom to top -- MICHELLE BRANCH the platimum album THE SPIRIT ROOM. and i have a black sharpie circle/slash across her face exactly, and a caps (black sharpie) PLEASE on her right forearm, KILL ME on the small side-abdomen flesh showing above her big belt. yep, i wasn't gonig for that "confessional" shit. (there's a couple songs i like on the second album , i admit). nooo way. oh yeah plus she later talked musical snob-trash about Hilary...go die idiot wannabe-bitch...or is that wannabitch. she's so lame. ========================= Toy-Box Fantastic / how about good old CD to analog cassette tape on an average/mediocre tape deck. DDA ha ha. 69 cent new cassette, cost only. the only extra ($3 bin) copy i ever had of TBFantastic, must have wound up with the year 2001 local GF's (b.1975) 1st grader (female) (b.1995) who had a whole 50-ct bin full of CD-singles and even half of it CD-albums (from the cheap used bins local) by the time the 1 year association was done. ha -- i have old promo record-label free copies of the 2 (great) Toy Box videos (Tarzan & Jane and Best Friend). power po plarry kinda likes the lesser, euro-only 2nd album, but i'm skeptical (having heard a bunch of 30- second samples on the internet at the time...the material/hooks was/were obviously only average). or straight trade for the Huckapoo dub. (i have don't a CD burner, never will...fuck digital technology man). has anyone ever tried to hook up (musically) the nearby Alexandra Slate (Toronto) with Skye? re Slate's unreleased 2003 album canned by, ha, HOLLYWOOD recs when the single didn't do anything -- there were "advance copies" wth color front cover pic/track list floating around everywhere). great rock voice and good pop-rock voice, like skye's but thicker and a little huskier. dunno how good a guitarist she was. (she's probably a little older than skye). i'm lazy and never got around to it...in case Skye someday wanted a GIRL in the band (for vocal harmonies especially)...ahhhh, i have one or two extra copies of the CD too! i should pull one aside and make it a 6x9 envelope "do list" thing. Slate's no doubt back at her local JC slogging towards a degree wondering what the hell went wrong...probably doesn't even have a "myspace"the album was produced by Rob Cavallo, mostly average "confessonal" lilith-girl crap. but tracks #7 and #10 are rock/rock-pop loud guitar that just blow the walls off. like loud good Green Day songs! (that Cavallo has produced, ie Dookie and less so American Idiot). it was even impossible to find much internet info on Slate/the album at the time! whoooa i put the cd on . Track #7 "Can't Hold The World" is AMAZING. fucking great song, recording, and production. very strong rock voice, like a squashed down/EQ of Kelly Clarkson, much more dead-on w/no high/low range in the melody lines. huh. nooo dude, i'm no asskisser. skye's year 2006 box was postal dropped monday (24th) and will arrive well after the birthday day (via surface mail..2 to 3 weeks, usually 20+ calendar days). hey you know what? when i saved the "wordpad notes" i think the old notes were also saved...which would be either birthday 2005 or Xmas 2004...i believe we got on each other's good side when i put, at the very bottom of whatever the notes run down (in the full size pizza box as mailer) (this year it took two smaller, med size pizza boxes, duct taped together), a nice xerox of all the pages (off the VV internet format) of..ha, the spring 2000 Britney OOPS maxi-essay. you notice her revised "music" (favorites) list on the myspace home now props Max for "Baby One More Time"? cool. there was only donation-box that year, whether Xmas or B-day. now i'm curious to pull/attach the notes.. (or cut/paste) I guess. no idea what the hell was in there except several goofy girls tops...oh wait! Xmas. cause a little later, birthday, she got a couple very trippy (merch inventory, the thrift store stuff) girl clothing pieces! (our ave merch cost always around $2/ea after screenprinting). yeah i'm sure one of them was a good HELLO KITTY (if not that one of her other favorite characters, all 3 things were right off her favorites list) mixed-fabric dress ha ha, and whatever else. good god i think the original Xmas box had unwanted Sailor Moon tops (one or two) that we could never unload out of the girls merch... hmmm. now i wonder. let's pull that old wordpad file. ====================aw man, hilarious -- i sent her the CD-single of Top Of The Pops (the Smithereens) that i'd flaked and never got to the Hilary Duff camp in late 2003 (via her label PR head, my contact who worked directly with the duffs...including sending mom duff's thank you box of cookies/card out to my home address after the spring 2003 VV essay/revew/career overview when the LIZZIE movie sdtk was racked). great forgotten live stage guitar-rock pop song ("top of the pops") that did NOTHING on radio (top 60 i think) when the smithereens' time was over and done. ==========long forgotten box #1 notes that were sent to bolton w/holiday package -- xmas 2004 for sure=========== (1) a great great live/radio tune** that not only did NOT get Top 40 airplay, but only got middling MTV time. the band's hit run had run out a year or two prior.... // ergo an awesome LIVE STAGE song or better (opening encores or set opener). a year ago i was gonna route it to hilary duff's people via the PR head they (momma D) work directly with at the label... but i got lazy. and she's doing ok without it, or even without a single. great tune on october 2004's album No. 2 (s/t). // ie** ("TOP OF THE POPS") (2) the world's coolest way to access "Heart Of Glass" into a CD player. duh, the junk bin POGO BOY soundtrack! ha ha ha ha pogo stick, all you punk rockers! disco down to the pogo boy! (3) things that are "britney." including any of my Xmas cards of the last 15 years possessing reference points. ( = the backpack in front of big Berlin club is a modified "X-Tina" bpack...customized w/KISS and AC/DC patches that is). (4) ok you now offically own one (1) 43 song comp (75 minutes) of kill your dad shoot the dog and your teachers too "LA punk rock 1977-82." that said, My Old Man's A Fatso Lights Out and Gas Chamber and a couple others are great guitar-rock songs. recorded in toilets masquerading as studios, as per the super-low-budget punk rockcode of music. Daphne and Celeste opine: "the angry samoans are ok if you hate your parents and like, have some mental problems." celeste: "Daphne, 'Lights Out' is a proto-rap song! Recognize!" daphne: "yes sista, and yelled/rapped onstage in fall 1979 indeed at that! recognize and salute the 70's proto-rapping!" celeste: "to white rappers everywhere with whiny voices!" daphne: "um...all of them, d'you think?" celeste: "don't talk shit about M or i'll throw you in the slam pit!" daphne "yes, word up to your future husband Eminem." celeste: "word up! up the word! and now let us go entertain the masses." daphne: "yes a star's life is a cruel, solitary one!" celeste/daphne: "hahahahahahaha ha ha ha!! we HATE whiny pop stars!" "yes take that Mariah!" "lord girl, she's 5 foot 10 tall." daphne: "a giant blubbering baby huey!" celeste: "awwwww, and the movie was so great!" daphne: "so cruel." celeste: "the world that we pop stars must share with mere mortals." daphne: "yes, word to the cruelty of it all!" (4) my GF's 4 year old daughter has her own NOISE FROM THE BASEMENTthat she plays almost daily. with her help we determined that the "Hypocrite"lyric's breakdown code was: anything not "ironic" was something thesinger liked (now or in earlier years). (5) we had a couple "sailor moon" t's hanging around in the merch pile for manygigs, unwanted and unsold. your problem now! look on the bright side:at least the band didn't autograph them. ( "$5 merch shirts/tops" cost ouroperation only $2.25/ea = $1.25 screen + $1 thrift store shirt/top) ( = a valueof $4.49 = yours for free. cause no one wanted them in california. so sad!Hello dipshit Kitty tops sell IMMEDIATELY like five seconds after they're thrownon the shirt table). that is all.now go write some songs, young lady. and do your homework.thee cussing punk rocking Angry Samoans
― xhuxk, Thursday, 27 April 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link
This just arrived via email, too:
>TEEN POP SINGER & ROLE MODELOFFERS TIPS FOR ONLINE SAFETY* * *Whitney Wolanin Has Witnessed "Cyber-Stalking" & "Cyber-Bullying" First Hand * * *Whitney's Single "It Takes Two" Charts At #9On FMQB AC TOP 40 Radio Chart Role model and rising pop star Whitney Wolanin (pronounced WO-Lan-in) enjoys spending time on the internet just as much as any other teen, despite her busy schedule of academics and her recent success on the radio charts. The recent media coverage on MySpace and the need to set guidelines for teens and users of online communities has prompted the 15-year-old rising pop star to offer tips on the safe use of these popular websites and protecting the family computer. Whitney has witnessed "cyber-bullying" and "cyber-stalking" first hand and has created a simple list of tips for teens to remain safe and to protect their personal identity. The blonde haired, green eyed high school sophomore first offered her tips to her fans, friends and relatives after her own family and classmates were effected by users who abuse online communities such as MySpace. Here are Whitney's tips for online safety in her own words: Whitney's Way to Online Safety 1. Stranger Danger – Don't talk to strangers or add them to your friends list. 2. Who’s Who? – People may not be who they say they are, so don’t assume they look or act as they do online. 3. Speak Out – If someone seems to be dangerous in any way, tell an adult or authority figure. 4. Homeland Security – Don’t download anything that could possibly harm your computer or invade your privacy. 5. Never – meet someone in person you “met” online; it’s extremely dangerous. 6. Keep It 2 Yourself – Don’t ever tell anyone you don’t know your address, phone number, school, or any personal information. 7. Self-Conscience – If something seems wrong to you, it probably is. Follow your instincts. 8. Chats – Don’t chat with people you don’t know as it could lead you into risky situations. 9. R-E-S-P-E-C-T – Respect yourself and others. Don’t say or do things online that you wouldn’t say in person, especially things that could embarrass you, your friends, or your family. 10. Enjoy – Most importantly, have fun and stay safe by chatting with people you know and avoiding bad situations. People can be much crueler online because they don’t have to say things to you face to face-avoid people who bring you down, especially online, and remember: you’re better than them. While spending most of the day chasing academic perfection in school, Whitney’s new single, “It Takes Two” with famed Survivor lead singer Jimi Jamison, is quickly climbing the charts reaching the #9 spot on the FMQB AC TOP 40 Radio Chart (April 19th). Whitney is now back in the studio preparing arrangements for a top secret Christmas release that is expected to be "choc" full of Holiday musical treats.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 27 April 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 27 April 2006 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link
GROUP SOUNDS -- "The only unsigned band to appear on the Fuse Network's Daily Download" toes the same dance-oriented '80s haircut-pop line as the Killers, Bravery, Hot Hot Heat, etc., and is hence as necessary as a hole in your head.
KITTY KAT DIRT NAP -- Handclappy indie fivesome from Philly, with a powerpop-to-Cars-to-Pixies bounce, a Dead Milkmen-nasal emo boy dueting with a squeaky girly, and silly song titles that mention Van Halen, Phil Collins, Tony Danza, Sparklemotion, Java Scripts, and breath mints. Every one of the nine titles on their amusingly robot-veteranarian-artworked CD has a parentheses in its title.
TAPPING THE VEIN -- A missing link between the already forgotten Drain S.T.H. and Evanescence who've yet to hit even as big as the former, these Philadelphians have never quite been beautiful, danceable, goofy, or German enough to pull off their black-clad Siouxsie-lookalike-led post-industrial power-ballad goth-shlock, though their 2002 album *The Damage* does at least start to soar at points. Tonight they headline an "electro-rock festival."
― xhuxk, Thursday, 27 April 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link
E.g. those London FAPs, and Ally's wedding.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 28 April 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 28 April 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Record of the Day - 19 April 2006 "LDN" by Lily Allen Regal, Contact: Katherine Parrott, EMI - +44 (0)20 7605 5377Release: 24 April (7 When a thread about Lily Allen was started on our messageboard, it provoked reaction and discussion, which good music always does. LDN is a fantastic summer record, packed with humour and that infectious ska-pop tune. This is gaining momentum in all the right places with Radio 1 support from Jo Whiley, a 6Music single of the week spot, and number 1 on Music Week's playlist. Signed by Jamie Nelson to Regal, this is feelgood music par excellence. Tipped by 'the_don'. JF London Gig: 4 May at Notting Hill Arts Club
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 28 April 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 28 April 2006 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 28 April 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 28 April 2006 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 28 April 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
and oh yeah (i keep remembering more reasons not to like it!), i like the IDEA of having conversations with one's 13-year-old self (though I've literally blocked most of my own age 13 from my memory), but the way Pink does it just hits me as really heavy-handed and clunky, for some reason. I mean, we don't even find out what her 13-year-old self's favorite foods or TV shows were, for Christ's sake! And I know, like Frank says, specifics like that are not a requirment in music, and only country and hip-hop tend to come up with them anyway, but here they would really really help us *care* about 13-year-old Pink. I dunno...maybe I need to go back to the two songs Frank recommended in his post up above, before I blow up.
― xhuxk, Friday, 28 April 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 28 April 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 28 April 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link
From the blurb:Recorded by producer Jeff Saltzman (The Killers) and James Michael (Alanis Morrissette, Motley Crue), the band wanted to evolve their sound and get back in touch with their rock 'n' roll roots. Completely enamored by '80s music and classic rock, Lillix were crossing their fingers and toes that the producer of the Killers' multi-platinum smash Hot Fuss would take a chance on them. "We sort of thought [Saltzman] would brush us off as not being 'hip' enough, but he really liked what he heard and said yes to the gig," says Burns. As for the girls hand with this, in addition to writing the material on the record, they are also credited for their production services.
To me, it's not doing much. The chorus doesn't soar the way I need from this kind of song - the yelled lines keep the range lower, it doesn't ever take flight, you know?
― Abby (abby mcdonald), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Putting aside the words to "Stupid Girls," which I've already talked about too much, the song is a medium-good r&b track.
In the verses of "Long Way to Happy" she plays deft handball with passing techno spazz-sounds, and the chorus is a good approximation of Bon Jovi in his Max Martin mode. (Interestingly enough, this isn't one of the Martin-Gottwald tracks.) Gets kinda boring in the break, though.
"I'm Not Dead" is another imitation Shanks or Martin style (again, no Martin on it), and lifts to a good Shanks & DioGuardi–style wailing finale (which, honestly - and I mean this every time I say it - would be better with Lindsay Lohan singing it, would have more pang and more juice [more pang and Tang?]). Also, the musical-comedy over-expressiveness when she goes to the "I'm not dead" part is actually funny.
"'Cuz I Can" is very good, my second favorite on the album, a stomp and a hoedown on the verse which leads to a really tuneful John and Kara–type thing that this time is Martin & Gottwald. Also there's a part of it where she seems to be chanting either "Ice cream ice cream we all want ice cream" or "high school high school want high school," though I don't think it's either. (The lyrics do a double attitude towards a parody fantasy of bling-style showoff that she wants/doesn't want, though she doesn't pull off her mixed attitude nearly as well here as on "I Got Money Now." In fact, she's downright confusing.)
"U + Ur Hand" calls to mind the Veronicas at their very best, given that it's a blatant copy of the Veronicas at their very best. It's not nearly as good as the Veronicas at their very best, but it sure calls them to mind. And on its own merits it's reasonably enjoyable, even if - as David Moore (no relation) points out - it ends up as something of a mess.
And "I Got Money Now" is a great song, the one where she doesn't sound as if she's thrashing around in search of a style, the one where the r&b and the emotionality never seem forced, where the contradictions don't seem like obvious irony but really do point to mixed feelings: she's worked so hard not to need people, and now she doesn't need them, but she does... well, I'm making it sound stupid, but it's not; there's both a triumph and a loneliness in not having to care what other people think of you.
(Also, you can think of "I Got Money Now" as a rebellion against the shorty-can-pay-her-own-rent platitudes of 1999's "Most Girls," which she didn't write and which could well be the sort of song she aimed her 2001 rebellion against.)
And "Runaway" is OK, and the duet with dad is touching and it's a pretty good song as well.
I feel absolutely no guilt about despising "Dear Mr. President." Calling the guy out on the results of his policies is one thing, inventing attitudes for him that he doesn't hold is another, and it doesn't help that the melody is a drag.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 28 April 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 April 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 30 April 2006 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link
"The girls" are nine friends who have been performing together in the musical theater arena for years. Blessed with strong voices and engaging personalities, the girls' love of music, fun, and friendship shines through on their debut album. An energetic and tightly knit unit, the girls perform group songs on the record with verve and the occasional collective giggle.
Each member of Girl Authority also has her own distinctive personality and sings a solo track in her unique style. Country Girl loves country music; Party Girl is always up for a good time; Rock-n-Roll Girl has a fun-loving wild side; Urban Girl adores city life; Preppy Girl is a cute schoolgirl; Boho Girl has all-natural flair; Glamour Girl is a young sophisticate; Fashion Girl is crazy for clothes; and All-Star Girl loves sports. From soul to country, r&b to rock 'n' roll, classic favorites to pop hits of today. Girl Authority has a song - and a girl - for everyone!
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 30 April 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Abby (abby mcdonald), Sunday, 30 April 2006 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link
These are not my definitive comments on "Let U Go" either. Or maybe they are.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 1 May 2006 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, I really see a difference within the 'sound' to do with the genre pitch and influences, so I'm looking for development within those threads rather than lump them all in together (which is tempting, I know); 'Behind these hazel eyes' was their goth-lite nod, and didn't do it for me the way 'End of Me' by Marion Raven does now, because Marion's bridge and the cellos are just amazing; the darkness BTHE way pitching for but somehow more visceral (although Kelly's vocal of course is great). Similarly, '4eva' was the Donnas nod, and I see it in a different strand to 'Let U Go' which in my head is the direct descendent of 'Just Want U To Know' - only of course, now shinier and newer and they've got the riff thrum influences of say, the Fall Out Boy material thrown in and acting more as the dominant force than the typical Backstreet Boy harmony style, which bodes well for that 'spin-off' direction.
So the way I see it, is that from 'Since U Been Gone' we're getting distinct derivatives, so that for each new 'generation' of the songs, they're honing the particulars that bit more.
― Abby (abby mcdonald), Monday, 1 May 2006 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cureforbedbugs.blogspot.com/
"Dave," (Dave Moore?) you have to be on this thread, right? Because here is the middle of your "recent music" list:
Marit Larsen - Under the Surface Miranda! - Sin Restricciones Hope Partlow - Who We Are Marion Raven - Who I Am
― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eppy (Eppy), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
ah...and jojo is and/or was not a grown up, i guess. but still. (alicia keys is not old, either, but she makes old people music anyway, and i have yet to hear a song by her i liked.)
also, um, they do not do a queen song! i meant "dancing queen" BY abba. (though on the subject of queen, my daughter says that a country girl on *american idol* did a great version of "bohemian rhapsody" during an all-queen tribute episode a couple weeks ago. i would love to see that; sounds wacky. does anybody know if she did the entire song??)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
"Leave (Get Out)" is a good song - a great song, actually - and I think JoJo was age-eligible for Girl Authority when she recorded it. I agree that it's indistinguishible from "adult" r&b, but I'll also point out that some 13-year-olds do fuck around and then get pissed when you leave "her number on my phone" etc.
I've only played the first Girl Authority track and it's not pointless in that you have a bunch of different girls spelling out banana one after the other, which you don't get in the Gwen Stefani version.
But someone should do a girl group that's a cross between Girl Authority and Weird Al Yankovic.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost
― nameom (nameom), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0247,saunders,39983,22.html
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link
By the way, has anyone here heard the first Destiny's Child CD, which they released when Beyoncé was 16? Sheffield once told me that he loved it.
OK, I just listened to the Girl Authority version of "Leave," and the thing is that, except for the girl who does the "oh-ohs" at the end, they might as well be reading the lyrics off a teleprompter for all the meaning and conviction they give the song. So it's just a weak performance, a bunch of kids singing a pop hit. Whereas Jo-Jo nails the song. Anyway, xhuxk, it might not be that the song feels disturbingly grown-up but that the kids sound disturbingly not-grown-up when they sing the "grown-up" lyrics. Whereas Jo-Jo may sound young but she doesn't sound like a kid, so I don't feel the cognitive dissonance in the sound. (Though for me, the Girl Authority version isn't disturbing, just thin.)
I'm still kicking myself for leaving "Leave" off my 2004 Pazz 'n' Jop ballot.
(But the Girl Authority "Hollaback Girl" really works, may be more bananas than the Gwen version, and less mannered in its bananasicity.)
Xpost I'm sure nameom has read everything Metal Mike's written for the Voice.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Pretty much. From that review:
Aaron Carter's older and Backstreet Nick's younger sister, Leslie Carter
Hasn't been mentioned but she's been making new music recently, available at her Myspace. (Type of Label: None)
― nameom (nameom), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
(and also - -see above -- i really don't like that Amy Diamond hit all THAT much. I think it's okay -- a 7.5 or 8.0 on the old *Radio On* scale, I guess. And since we're now on the subject of songs-Frank-burned-for-me, I will now say that my favorite song so far on the Marion Raven album is "At the End of the Day" [is that the one with the Art Alexakis duet?], though most of it, for instance "For You I'll Die" and "Six Feet Under" [I just finished season five, I think, though they all run together when you have to wait for DVDs to hit Netflix] are fine, though I have barely listened to it so far and my opinions are fairly worthless. Clearly, However, "Ch!pz in Black" by Ch!pz blows pretty much the entire Marion album out the water. Also, "Complicated" by Bon Jovi wouldn't necessarily have been the *worst* song on *Slippery When Wet* had it been on there, but would've been close. Though it's pleasant.)
(and also, approximately 50 percent of all bubblegum songs in history, all the way back to the Archies and the Ohio Express, can be taken to be about oral sex. This is old news.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link
I never thought I would be right where I am now getting ready for a showcase that I hope will change my life and bring me closer to all of my dreams. Doing this without my families help and unfortunatly without there love and support its been hard and at times I didnt want to continue on like this but I have realized that the only thing that keeps me going is all of my fans support throughout the years. You guys have been great to me, even just a friendly little reminder saying I can do it gets me through the day, I love yall. So many people want to know whats going on and I want everyone to know the truth because I hate LIARS but no one really likes a liar right? Anyway, I left my mom 3 months ago and it was hard to do but I had to. After my parents divorced my whole world changed and I had to take responsibility for myself. My mom was alone and I couldnt just leave her alone. Someone had to be there to help her heal and I love my mom no matter how confused she is...deep down she is a good person and no one should hate her. I have to continue on and be strong for myself now. I am up here in Canada all by myself...I havnt spoken to anyone of my family members in a while. No one answers my calls. I take care of myself and it sux but its for the best in the long run. Now I am not writing this so that anyone feels sorry for me believe me. I am just telling the truth and maybe I am doing a little healing myself...who knows. All I know is that with all the effort that you have inside you or you think you may have inside you, you have 100% more that you may not even know about or know you had. Doesnt matter what happens from here on out what matters is I am alive and I have the ability to make myself happy. As long as I dont let anyone get me down...thats the key!
Biopic to come?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, not a girl group, but there is Devo 2.0. Although, listening to the Girl Authority clips on iTunes, Girl Authority sound like crap (Chuck: "It would be better here if the girls's voices were more out of tune, i would think" - Indeed) and Devo 2.0 sound great.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
(More Leslie Carter. Don't know if this is an inadvertent double post, as I keep getting poxy fuled.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, I think you hit the nail on the head. It's like some perverted creep i holding a gun to their backs, forcing them to blankly recite grown-up words they don't understand, with no bubblegum in the corner of their mouths whatsoever. (Not that the song had much gum to begin with, apparently.) (also, remember, ohio express and archies songs *weren't* sung by teenagers. and neither were poison's, or the jesus and mary chain's, or ????'s. had the jackson five or osmonds had sung about oral sex, that may well have creeped me out, too.) (which is not to imply that the jojo song is about oral sex. if it is, i haven't noticed.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link