STEVE ALBINI

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Proclaimers, Buddy Holly brings to mind the DLR quote "The reason the critics all like Elvis Costello better than me is because they all look like Elvis Costello."

Terrycoth Baphomet (bendy), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:41 (eight months ago) link

500 miles is a great song. I liked it, then I made fun of it and now I’ve gone back around to liking it.

Cow_Art, Monday, 4 September 2023 19:43 (eight months ago) link

dlr
elvis costello
even the proclaimers
but esp buddy holly

alex, the question is "who are artists better than steve albini?"

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:54 (eight months ago) link

Hmm. “500 Miles” sounding pretty good on this listen. Maybe I will try it at karaoke as a way to work on my comedy IRN-BRU accent.

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:56 (eight months ago) link

Xpost Sorry, it was people Rivers Cuomo thinks he looks like.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:56 (eight months ago) link

lol

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:56 (eight months ago) link

if you live in scotland 500 miles is akin to freebird or somesusch, although i'd take freebird over it in a second.

stirmonster, Monday, 4 September 2023 21:37 (eight months ago) link

Do people yell out out “500 Miles!” at every gig by every band in Scotland?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 4 September 2023 21:41 (eight months ago) link

of course.

stirmonster, Monday, 4 September 2023 21:42 (eight months ago) link

Every band in Scotland plays it.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Monday, 4 September 2023 21:44 (eight months ago) link

Then a haggis walks backwards on the stage while a kilted piper plays

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Monday, 4 September 2023 21:49 (eight months ago) link

wpm

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 September 2023 21:53 (eight months ago) link

I prefer “500/20 Miles” myself

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 September 2023 22:14 (eight months ago) link

500 Miles is brilliant and it's still not one of my favourite Proclaimers songs : )

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 4 September 2023 22:16 (eight months ago) link

FWIW I'm pleasantly surprised by his Specials love - I unconsciously (and unfairly) assumed Jamaican or JA-derived music would be off his remit somehow - but then I remembered didn't he also dig UB40 in the early 80s?

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 4 September 2023 22:20 (eight months ago) link

Which is the best Proclaimers song in your opinion?

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 September 2023 22:28 (eight months ago) link

Probably it's There's a Touch. Though I cannot conceive of it being up ilx's alley at all. Followed by Throw the 'R' Away.

What can I say, their Best Of MVs DVD was foundational stuff for me so it's partly a nostalgia thing but I never 'outgrow' such attractions. I'm quite happy to give some, if not all of the love that Folk Festival pop needs here.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 4 September 2023 22:34 (eight months ago) link

Throw The 'R' Away for me

MaresNest, Monday, 4 September 2023 22:52 (eight months ago) link

Based on his taste and his no-no list, I bet Steve is the ultimate "Cabaret Voltaire personally betrayed me after Red Mecca" guy

Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:06 (eight months ago) link

lololol

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:21 (eight months ago) link

I know he did criticize 80s Wire.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:02 (eight months ago) link

I'm with James Redd. I wouldn't call it a favorite, but after listening to it a few times, "500 Miles" sounds like a pretty good single to me.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 00:13 (eight months ago) link

I listened to that whole album for the first time the other day, it was pretty solid.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 00:47 (eight months ago) link

That album even has its own POLL

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 00:57 (eight months ago) link

Do you know what their most recent album is called?

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 01:11 (eight months ago) link

He seemed to have kicked up a fuss today amongst Jeff Rosenstock fans

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 01:42 (eight months ago) link

I'd tread lightly that's a tough bunch

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 02:08 (eight months ago) link

for anyone who came here to see why people are upset and didn't expect a bunch of posts about the Proclaimers

Not often admitted, but merch cuts are 100% negotiable, to the extent that my bands over 40+ years have never, not once, ever paid them. When agents make deals, they don't care about ticket surcharges, merch cut or other leaks; they don't affect their cut. The band has to insist. https://t.co/EoX5fHiz5J

— steve albini (@electricalWSOP) September 5, 2023

Murgatroid, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 02:15 (eight months ago) link

Albini and Rosenstock ended up saying nice things about one another, but people were posting that German tour diary

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 02:23 (eight months ago) link

When it’s not “venue sells,” how does a venue audit / collect? They won’t let you fold up the table until you show them your books and write them a check for 10% of the cash you took in?

Midi, Maxi & Efti stan account (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 02:42 (eight months ago) link

Rosenstock correctly pointing out that Shellac (with a band leader whose day job isn’t Shellac) doesn’t necessarily play by the same rules as most bands.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 02:45 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

Somebody asked him on Bluesky about recording Sunn O))) and his responses were interesting, so I'm pasting them here.

>>Have you done an interview where you discuss the technical aspects of recording SunnO)))? Such a crazy thing to try to capture.

>>It was hard! Rendering subtleties of texture at 130 dB is no joke, and they were discerning about every small detail. Very satisfying to have the playback sound convincing but a lot of work to get there.

>>But what did you do differently than other loud (but not as loud) sessions to capture those subtle textures?

>>It seems like I'm ducking the question but there's no shortcut. I listened to each of the amps, found a mic that suited each one, maintained phase and polarity between them, listened and adjusted on a per-song basis, sometimes swapping out the whole arsenal, used ambient sound judiciously...

>>Some mics I might have used at lower volume simply couldn't cope, some were surprisingly okay with it. It was not just the loudest thing ever recorded in the studio, it was the loudest thing I've ever witnessed. The whole building was vibrating and it's a pretty sturdy building.

>>Any particular standouts in the representing-high-volume dept (asking for myself)? I assume it would be unhealthy for most ribbon mics...

>>Unless a note hits the resonant frequency of the ribbon (typically quite low, but not impossible) modern ribbons (AEA, Beyer, Royer) can handle pretty high spl, and some shorter old school ribbons (RCA 74, BK5) do just fine as well. I know I used some but without my notes I have no idea which atm.

>>Is it even possible to evaluate the live sound with actual human ears? Or was it mostly about test recordings and iterating mic choice and placement?

>>Oh, the sound in the room, the live sound was what we were shooting for. Steve and Greg would spend quite some time dialing in a precise sound for each piece, and that was that. Loud or quiet, first task of an engineer is to listen to something and make a recording to recreate that sense memory.

read-only (unperson), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 04:19 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Gibby f'n hates Steve Albini!

https://instagram.com/underdoser?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA==

Anyone know what Steve said about the Buttholes recently?

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 6 November 2023 19:47 (six months ago) link

probably mad about the disrespect shown here:

Been thinking about this picture of Steve Albini playing guitar while wearing an upside down Butthole Surfers t shirt. pic.twitter.com/tn1kWwJMS4

— Father Sean Misty (@seanieviola) October 6, 2019

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 6 November 2023 19:52 (six months ago) link

He looks like Martin Starr in Freaks & Geeks.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 November 2023 19:56 (six months ago) link

When a Butthole Surfers shirt is being worn upside down, that is a signal that there's distress in the butthole.

Gibby also hangs out with Michael Stipe

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:05 (six months ago) link

I mean Johnny Depp (I always get them confused)

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:05 (six months ago) link

Damn... I never heard of that tour diary excerpt.

More skin on 'Love Boat' (morrisp), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:06 (six months ago) link

that's a really disgusting passage

though...gibby seems like a dude who might not want his own history under a microscope

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:07 (six months ago) link

Huh, would have expected Albini to be a Surfers fan.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:19 (six months ago) link

There's a Pitchfork interview from 2015 where Albini and Ian Mackaye enthuse about the Butthole Surfers. Not sure what's happened since then.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:21 (six months ago) link

A lot of anti-Butthole lines were publicly drawn in the lawsuits between Buttholes and Touch & Go, with fellow bandmate Santiago Durango as T&G's lawyer(!)
I imagine the antipathy hasn't gotten any better since then. Even in the reminiscing interviews with Albini/MacKaye, there's always a disappointment expressed at what buttholes the Buttholes became.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 6 November 2023 20:27 (six months ago) link

The Butthole Surfers' '80s catalog is some of the most amazing music ever barfed out under the heading of "rock," and they were incredible live back then, but would I want to hang out in a room with any of them under other circumstances? I don't think so.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:32 (six months ago) link

there was an extensive Kramer interview covering, in part, his tenure in the Surfers, but it appears to have been scrubbed from the internet, it was the defunct believermag dot com site

lots of harrowing Gibby madness documented

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:36 (six months ago) link

taking sides: chilling with peak insanity Gibby vs peak asshole Albini

Cow_Art, Monday, 6 November 2023 20:38 (six months ago) link

there was an extensive Kramer interview covering, in part, his tenure in the Surfers, but it appears to have been scrubbed from the internet, it was the defunct believermag dot com site

lots of harrowing Gibby madness documented

― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, November 6, 2023 12:36 PM (four minutes ago)

this one?
https://www.thebeliever.net/logger/three-questions-for-kramer/

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:42 (six months ago) link

thank you, yes! a great read

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:45 (six months ago) link

taking sides: chilling with peak insanity Gibby vs peak asshole Albini

This is no contest, I wouldn’t even want to hang with kinder gentler current Albini.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:46 (six months ago) link

be careful with using the word "kinder" and "Albini" in the same sentence unless you want to end up on a list

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 6 November 2023 20:54 (six months ago) link


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