https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IL4nX5r71M
dunno if this is the right thread for this, I think it is, but looking for more instances of this thing bobby caldwell does sometimes like in this track where he sort of...emulates a delay I guess? but manually, with his voice
― Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 22 July 2023 07:01 (ten months ago) link
like there is absolutely straight up delay on the vocal as well, but particularly on the second verse it sounds he is just doing it himself like some kind of rare genius
― Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 22 July 2023 07:05 (ten months ago) link
may also be mixing up delay and reverb? I dunno I'm a drummer
― Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 22 July 2023 07:11 (ten months ago) link
No it’s delay! Horace Andy does this too
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 22 July 2023 08:29 (ten months ago) link
Jacob Miller too...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Saturday, 22 July 2023 11:24 (ten months ago) link
yes thank you that's pretty much exactly what I mean, I know very little about reggae but is this basically the invention of dub? like oh wait, we could just feed everything thru a delay pedal
― Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 23 July 2023 09:18 (ten months ago) link
No. Sounds like he's mostly trying for a Barry Gibb thing but the last line of the song he definitely mimics delay.
― John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 July 2023 09:49 (ten months ago) link
yes! barry gibb absolutely, to be clear not advancing the theory that bobby caldwell invented dub, was in reference to horace andy, like was dub something that emerged from some reggae singers doing this in the 70s and then guitar players wanted to do that too
― Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 23 July 2023 10:11 (ten months ago) link
The other way round.
― John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 July 2023 10:23 (ten months ago) link
That reminds me that I was listening to Moby Grape recently and Peter Lewis does a kind of tremeloed thing with his voice on some songs...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adF3Lc-g5Ac
― John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 July 2023 10:26 (ten months ago) link
... tremolo or vibrato or whatever. Seems like something singers did in the 60s? I don't know if Donovan did it first but I associate it most with him...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR8k8jpT3tw
― John Donne In Concert (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 July 2023 10:29 (ten months ago) link
love that the cat. # of the bobby caldwell LP in the youtube embed is POOP 20240
― budo jeru, Sunday, 23 July 2023 16:57 (ten months ago) link