Four of these are in my Top 50, Radiohead isn't because I'm old in my ways and I want to hear it on a Proper CD, which doesn't come out until Hogmanay, Bruce and Nick would have been in my 51-60 section if I'd done one, Stripes and Grinderman I didn't feel and Kings Of Leon I have never felt, and furthermore I now automatically think of the X-Factor.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 21 December 2007 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link
That's quite a sentence.
― dblcheeksneek, Friday, 21 December 2007 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link
no the field?? can anyone explain why?
karmic payback for the ridiculously high score on metacritic
― blueski, Friday, 21 December 2007 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link
not actually that popular beyond dance critics?
― Matos W.K., Friday, 21 December 2007 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Jordan is correct re the pitchfork albums poll.
― Tim F, Friday, 21 December 2007 14:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I just hope my crate-digging intent in crunching the available Pfork numbers isn't lost in translation: I feel like I found some interesting albums in tallying discs that repeatedly made individual Top 25's but didn't make the year-end poll.
However, the list-making album(s) I'm beyond intrigued by by now is the Studio disc(s).
― dblcheeksneek, Friday, 21 December 2007 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Studio's West Coast EP is fantastic, so I imagine the full-length (which has many of the same tracks) is just as fantastic.
BTW, Tim F.'s opening few posts on the Studio thread paint a vivid picture of how the disc sounds.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 21 December 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link
man, i've been listening to the tracks from pitchfork's 100 tracks. i can't believe my ears. so many not-so-interesting tracks. groove armada? ellis-bextor? BARR? dirty projectors? bat for lashes? magic markers? no age? old time relijun? times new viking? so this is the sound of indie rock right now? correct me if i'm way off because it's been a long time since i listened to indie stuff.
― Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr, Friday, 21 December 2007 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link
dblcheeksneek, when you're done lqtying, you should check out studio, "indo" especially
― kamerad, Friday, 21 December 2007 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think those represent ''the sound of indie rock right now,'' but complaints about the supposedly tired state of ''the sound of indie rock right now'' are old as dirt (i.e., they've been around forever).
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 21 December 2007 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link
XP, obv.
Those tracks don't really represent "the sound of indie rock" at all. I don't know if you could create a representative sample of indie rock tracks in 2007, but if you could Old Time Fucking Relijun definitely would not be in the conversation.
I dunno, the non-indie rock tracks on the Pitchfork list aren't really very interesting either. There were some good albums in 2007 but it really just wasn't a great year for individual tracks.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 21 December 2007 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link
That Groove Armada track is good, duke.
― The Reverend, Friday, 21 December 2007 18:12 (sixteen years ago) link
between UGK and dblcheeksneek's list most of 51-60 on the p4k list are mentioned. Clientele and Menomena were also in there. We do have a slightly complicated tallying system for each list.
― scottpl, Friday, 21 December 2007 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link
slightly complicated, yet evidently mostly democratic.
― dblcheeksneek, Friday, 21 December 2007 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Boomkat's charts, inc. charts form Skull Disco, Robt Wyatt and others.
― Raw Patrick, Friday, 21 December 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link
actually matos, i'd suspect the field was way more popular with non-dance critics than dance critics. and that no age is pretty great, durrr, give the album a shot.
― pshrbrn, Friday, 21 December 2007 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
that boomkat list is awesome! kind of seems what the wire's list should've been...
― Mark Clemente, Friday, 21 December 2007 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i'd suspect the field was way more popular with non-dance critics than dance critics
Seconding Phil here.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 December 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Not that I mean that as a dis. (Although I don't really see what the fuss was about, at all. That record to me feels like one half-decent idea, never fully baked, repeated over and over and over again. And no, I don't think that's what all techno (or minimal or whatever) does.)
― pshrbrn, Friday, 21 December 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
That record to me feels like one half-decent idea, never fully baked, repeated over and over and over again.
yes! sometimes this half-decent idea works -- there are parts of the album i enjoy -- but most of the time it gets pretty stale quite quickly. the half-bakedness of it all really shows, i think.
― Mark Clemente, Friday, 21 December 2007 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I actually really like it -- got on my Idolator ballot because I kept listening to it, the basic rule of thumb -- but no question it's simpler in comparison to something like, say, P***a B**r. Yet I also retain a belief than 'simpler' != 'worse.'
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link
no question it's simpler in comparison to something like, say, P***a B**r.
Arrgh.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Of all people to have that touch a nerve with!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Prada Boar?
― The Reverend, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
They're out there, you know.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
No, I don't think that simpler != worse either. But I don't think that the Field is quite "simple" (to use a reductive shorthand term) enough. I'd rather listen to purer drone music (Rosy Parlane, say). I don't think the Field's sound design is terribly good, either -- those hi-hats are pure meh. Rhythmically, it's also snoozeville; I'd rather he'd left out the kick and hi-hats altogether, since all they're really doing is keeping metronomic time.
― pshrbrn, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Rosy Parlane, say
Mmm, Rosy Parlane. I should dig those discs out, thanks for the inadvertant reminder! :-)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link
What's annoying with The Field is that he clearly put a lot of effort into "Over The Ice" and "Things Keep Falling Down" (both of which sound really smartly constructed and effective to boot - esp. the former) but most of the new tracks on the album simply take the underlying formula to those tracks and deploy them without any extra ideas. I suppose you could say he was moving towards some idea of sonic purity, but it's not like a Basic Channel story where the simpler the grooves the more eternal and natural they sound - The Field is far too herky-jerky for that.
― Tim F, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link
ned, you heard the new one on touch, right? it's luscious.
― pshrbrn, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Yup. I think I reviewed it for the AMG, not sure.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 December 2007 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
term out: arpeggiator term in: herky-jerkiator!
― blueski, Friday, 21 December 2007 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link
That Skull Disco free mix linked to above was pleasant enough but it's not making me jump up and down or smile broadly--it's just standard dub meets art disco...
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 22 December 2007 00:02 (sixteen years ago) link
I reckon Skull Disco tracks work better in the mix with other stuff rather than as one big conglomerate.
― Tim F, Saturday, 22 December 2007 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Philip/Tim OTM re: The Field. I was actually just discussing this recently in an email. It's kind of frustrating when he hits a really great initial groove (e.g. "Everyday") and then the lack of development in drum programming/sound design really start to hinder things midway through.
― Michael F Gill, Saturday, 22 December 2007 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Gosh, I think Everyday really kicks into gear at around the 2:00 mark, just after the chopped up female vocals. I actually thought one of The Field's strengths was how he shift gears so well during a song.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 22 December 2007 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Whenever someone mentions P*7*$ B$@&* I get itchy.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 22 December 2007 01:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Comin' down to the wire for my ballot OMG, four candidates for one spot. Or maybe two spots. Ugh.
― Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 22 December 2007 03:33 (sixteen years ago) link
http://sayhey.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/bwin.jpg
― The Reverend, Saturday, 22 December 2007 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Haha I caved on Fefe Dobson after all!
― Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 22 December 2007 04:42 (sixteen years ago) link
http://pages.prodigy.net/davidson.fam/in.jpg
― The Reverend, Saturday, 22 December 2007 04:55 (sixteen years ago) link
hey rev are you ready for THE BIG TAKEOVER?
― Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 22 December 2007 05:04 (sixteen years ago) link
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/73131532.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=0A988CE895E095AA14B36490B36BBCB6A40A659CEC4C8CB6
― The Reverend, Saturday, 22 December 2007 05:19 (sixteen years ago) link
i missed the jackin pop deadline. should i still submit
― deej, Saturday, 22 December 2007 05:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes (if you still can).
― The Reverend, Saturday, 22 December 2007 05:22 (sixteen years ago) link
If not, email your ballot in.
― The Reverend, Saturday, 22 December 2007 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link
(and comments)
emailed
― deej, Saturday, 22 December 2007 05:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Dude?!? I just heard it for the first time yesterday--it's great!
― Ioannis, Saturday, 22 December 2007 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link
In partial response to chuck's question above, Of Montreal wasn't on my list, but I was also surprised it wasn't making many lists given how much critical love I'd seen for it. Apparently that love was limited! It seemed like a whole bunch of people went "holy shit, Kevin Barnes" this year, but I guess it was all just people I knew.
― Eppy, Saturday, 22 December 2007 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link