much as I love the 'Chop, I will always hold it against them that "Up With People" was not a cover version of that 80's Super Bowl halftime staple...
― henry s, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, I thought it was panned going by some posts I read in this thread and the pitchfork and rolling stones reviews linked in the wikipedia. just glanced through the metacritic link. guess "mixed" would have been more apt.
anyway, not having heard nixon, I may not be the best to say... but to me it seems apparent that is a woman has some really obvious positive qualities going for it that I find it hard to believe people would just write-off. most of these have already been mentioned - the sheer uniqueness of it, the arrangements (the PIANO!), the subtle use of electronics or whatever else is going on in the periphery. its beautiful.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Music writers are fucking idiots, is the problem here.
― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link
So apparently they have a new one, Ohio, should I care? Aw/No didn't really grab me - this could be down to my problem with sticking with any band for more than five or six albums.
― allez, allons-y, on y va (ledge), Friday, 17 October 2008 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I love it. Two great Ohio-based albums out on the same day: the Lambchop and the new one from the Pretenders. Wonder if Sufjan Sevens will add one soon as well.
― mottdeterre, Friday, 17 October 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
what's it like? more like 'nixon' than 'is a woman' - louder, poppier?
― allez, allons-y, on y va (ledge), Friday, 17 October 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link
i love it. its more like 'nixon' but stripped down more.
― Michael B, Sunday, 23 November 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i'd say it is more like "is a woman". pretty calm and serene. a nice surprise.
― alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 23 November 2008 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Listening to this radio broadcast from Germany from a recent show plus interview stuff with Kurt is good stuff, just to hear him get asked about politics, the initial beginnings of his answer heard clearly in his low-spoken way (fiercely pro-Obama, of course -- and apparently very surprised at how Ohio went for him), and then an enthusiastic German speaker providing the translation in a completely different, peppy 'hey yeah!' approach.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 November 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Did'nt think I needed another Lambchop album in my life but "Ohio" is just lovely...perfect for a Sunny London dusk in Jan
― sonnyboy, Saturday, 17 January 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
To conclude this interviewMany facts and fictions you construeThe dog gives you the pawYou pat his head and you wipe his jawHe's the only one who knew(about) my blue wave
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
devastating.
― ledge, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
best band. psyched that they're playing my neck of the woods this spring. pretty incredible live act. that mergefest et they released digitally is astonishing. there's also some tour-only CD they sold w/ the most stunning version of "you masculine you."
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
I've listened to this a fair amount since January, and while the tracks can err on the somnolent side they're often pretty and well observed. I've never gotten used to his voice either.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
Nothing else has ever sounded like D. Scott Parsley.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
Google tells me D. Scott Parsley is a Nashville law firm.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
Man, his voice has so much personality. Definitely needs to work for you for the songs to come across, but I couldn't imagine someone else singing his songs. The odd phrasing and occasional struggle to pull it all off are an inherent part of the charm for me.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
tyler - I didn't know they'd announced any US dates? I seem to only find European ones.
I hope to hell they play here.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
Going to see them at the Barbican next month, kinda psyched.
There's something a bit sad about the new album though - his voice doesn't hold up very well (he's had health problems of course) and there are long instrumental stretches where he doesn't feature at all.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
never mind - on the Merge site not their own. Playing Dallas at a tba venue!
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
I found Damaged very difficult to listen to, laregly because of how his voice sounded. He didn't sound well.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
new album here: http://www.npr.org/2012/02/12/146594316/first-listen-lambchop-mr-mi saw them a few years back in boston and couldn't believe how *edgy* they were -- almost scary intensity from Wagner, which you rarely get on record. he stayed seated, as per usual, but barely.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
Is A Woman is a decade old. Fucking hell.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
Lambchop US tour:Apr 13 Asheville, NC The Grey EagleApr 14 Durham, NC Motorco Apr 15 Arlington, VA IOTA Apr 16 Annapolis, MD Ram’s Head Apr 17 Boston, MA Paradise Apr 18 Philadelphia, PA World Café Live Apr 19 New York, NY Le Poisson RougeApr 20 Brooklyn, NY The Bell HouseApr 21 Pittsburgh, PA Club Café Apr 22 Cleveland, OH The Beachland Ballroom Apr 23 Ann Arbor, MI The Ark Apr 24 Chicago, IL Lincoln Hall Apr 25 Madison, WI High Noon Saloon Apr 26 Minneapolis, MN The Dakota Apr 27 Omaha, NE The SlowdownApr 28 Boulder, CO The Fox TheatreMay 01 Seattle, WA The Tractor Tavern May 02 Portland, OR Doug FirMay 04 San Francisco, CA Great American Music Hall May 05 Santa Monica, CA McCabe’sMay 06 Tucson, AZ Club CongressMay 08 Dallas, TX TBAMay 09 Austin, TX The CactusMay 11 Birmingham, AL Secret Stages May 12 Nashville TN TBA
highly recommend seeing em if you're in the US -- not often they play these places.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Lambchop is great live these days, though as noted the songs are really intensely played now. Wagner gets really into it. Way different than when I first saw them at the Merge 15 anniversary show, but really great. I am assuming the William Tyler is still in the band, as well as Tony Crow, and those two are worth going for alone.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah hoping william tyler does an opening set, or something. his solo record is killer.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
Gotta get that record, been meaning to check it out for a while. Live clips of him on that tour are great.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
Might try to make the Nashville "triumphant homecoming" show. I saw them at the Belcourt in, uh 2004 I think, at the end of a tour -- really good. If they were tired from the road, they didn't show it that night.
― Steamtable Willie (WmC), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
"Ohio" brought me back to this band again. such a great record, hope to see them play in Dublin soon.
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
I think there are three masterpieces - How I Quit Smoking, Nixon, Is A Woman but all the others have at least one amazing song on them.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
OH (Ohio) is on par with those earlier peaks. I haven't listened to the new one except for two tracks (I'm waiting for the disc) but those were quite promising as well.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
Nixon only gets 3 stars at Allmusic, which seems rather strange.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
don't think i've heard a bad lambchop album yet -- i love Damaged (as well as the Collab EP that preceded it).
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
this sounds pretty good but i don't think can ever love any lambchop album as much as the lambchop/vic chesnutt collabo album "the salesman and bernadette"
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
I like Mr. M quite a bit. The instrumental passages are interesting. I know a lot of the guys in the band--Ryan Norris and William Tyler, and Mark Nevers. Caroline recorded an entire album's worth of material at Beech House a couple of months ago with Tyler and Tony Crow, and Chris Scruggs, and I just interviewed Kurt and Nevers for a Nashville Scene piece on the new record, comes out tomorrow.
― Edd Hurt, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
nice! fave lambchop song might be gettysburg address from decline of country & western II -- just a brutal, brutal song. tough to listen to if you're feeling anything close to depressed, but really a marvelous tune.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
that's definitely a killer tune.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
Just listening to William Tyler on spotify, just wow. Such a rich, dense melodic tone. Bet he kills it live.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
There are no bad Lambchop albums, just degrees of how good they are.
Added Lambchop bonus: my wife likes them as much as I do, so going to see them is a full family event. There aren't many bands we can agree on like that, so somehow it makes the shows that much better.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
William Tyler has made a new record with Mark Nevers at Beech House. The stuff he played on Caroline Peyton's record is amazing and in the pocket. The last time I saw him, he was playing with Kurt Wagner and Cortney Tidwell--the KORT material--and they did a version of Fariport Convention's version of the Merry-Go-Round's "Time Will Show the Wiser." Playing some good guitar. For me, some of Lambchop's stuff is just theoretical and not especially compelling or, to my ears, completely realized, and it is not country music or even countrypolitan. Really just kinda standard folk-rock with some production touches added, not very rhythmically acute or swinging. Just a plank for Kurt to walk on with his little songs. But good for what it is, and there are great cuts on just about every record, the new one being perhaps their best ever, really good stuff all around.
― Edd Hurt, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
yes! so glad to hear about us tour dates. i love this band so much
― geeta, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
"For me, some of Lambchop's stuff is just theoretical and not especially compelling or, to my ears, completely realized, and it is not country music or even countrypolitan. Really just kinda standard folk-rock with some production touches added, not very rhythmically acute or swinging. Just a plank for Kurt to walk on with his little songs."
Not sure Kurt has ever called his music country or countrypolitan, not that that really matters. It is very much, to me, about whomever Kurt plays with providing Kurt a platform for his songs, which wrangle a whole lot of emotion and compelling sentiments out of the equation. If it doesn't work for you sometimes I get it, but I am not sure why you call his songs "little" or theoretical as opposed to, for example, most other country stuff.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
Well, Kurt told me last week that he set out to reference countrypolitan music. By which I think he means the strings and the "extraneous" stuff that country used back then. It seems "little" to me compared to actual country--George Jones and Tammy Wynette made big art. Country music is about singing, and Kurt is not a great singer, or even really a singer at all except in the sense he hits some tones more or less accurately. No projection or technique. I'm not opposed to the theoretical--that includes a lot of stuff, from Eno to Miles Davis--and just mean that Lambchop doesn't delve very deeply into music itself and what you can do with harmony, rhythm and so forth. It's all surface. the instrumental passages on the new one are cool, but again, they don't go very deep. I respect what they do and think they have gotten better over the years. But no, I don't regard it as anything but indie rock, and I don't get any real emotional or structural kick out of it. I really like Nixon and the Aw,C'mon records. As usual with me, the English are the big offenders in parsing music like Lambchop--if a lot of those critics and listeners knew anything about country music they would not even put Lambchop into that category. they did the same with Caitlin Rose, who again, is not making country music at all. It's pleasant and ambitious in its way. The new record's "Gone Tomorrow" is a very fine piece of work whose words--about Vic Chesnutt and a European tour LC and VC endured--seem to me to be pretty clear and even emotional.
― Edd Hurt, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
Fair enough, and you certainly have your reasons, thanks for the response.
I guess "little" means not as universal? I can buy that, Kurt's writing from a very specific place, but the musical arguments just don't wash with me. Most country arrangements, to my ears, delve no deeper than most other singer-based songwriting, but I don't really want to argue that one out. Lambchop plays with a number of things, to my ears quite successfully. I am no honk for harmony or rhythmic complexity coming from a songwriter-based project, it's usually about the personality and feel and then, when up to snuff, the lyrics.
And let's leave the British music press out of this, their crimes are legion.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
hee, well, i appreciate the british press' enthusiasm for lambchop -- they seem to be treated with a respect/importance that they don't get in the states. but the writing about lambchop is usually pretty off-base, if overwhelmingly positive.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, their love for Lambchop is great! Probably a big reason why they tour at all, for which I am thankful.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
ok i like mr. m a lot. so well-produced.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 16 February 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
ah, yeah, this sounds really nice. god, i hope that arcade fire continues to be a huge band, so that merge can just keep giving lambchop a good-sized recording budget.
― tylerw, Thursday, 16 February 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
fantastic video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMFi2OaXiI8
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link
ha ha
i heart kurt wagner
― geeta, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link