i can remember loads of speculation around the album release that it was the end. Then they toured. And toured again? And Thom made another album. And they toured again? And also The Smile. and.... god bless em
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 7 November 2021 03:04 (two years ago) link
i do wonder if it is true, as the rumors say, that phil, colin, and ed have all been sacked
― just staying (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 November 2021 03:06 (two years ago) link
xp They go into the half my life bit but that's obvious... but what i didn't clie into before was that Radiohead was also half of Thom's years at that point, and then they go into was that literal, professional half of his life what undid his relationship and bla bla bla don't think it was any more numbers
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 7 November 2021 03:06 (two years ago) link
5 minutes three plus Nigel well that's Jesus isn't it
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 7 November 2021 03:07 (two years ago) link
5 minus. I'm putting down my phone goodnight
they go into was that literal, professional half of his life what undid his relationship
has thom yorke ever talked about what undid their relationship, though? i haven't been reading all their press like i used to back in the day, but it doesn't seem like something he'd be that open about. but maybe, who knows
― just staying (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 November 2021 03:12 (two years ago) link
5 - Nigel = 6Nigel = -1
― just staying (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 November 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link
the video is saying that nigel is the "negative force" in thom's life. it is nigel that undid the relationship
― just staying (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 November 2021 03:14 (two years ago) link
not by anything that nigel did, but how his negative force corrupted their relationship
Burn the Witch is one of the best songs on this one!!!
Putting it as the opening song is the right choice I think. It doesn’t really fit with the rest of the album but it’s too good to be a b-side
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 7 November 2021 06:29 (two years ago) link
Excellent post by Soundslike upthread, my thoughts exactly
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 7 November 2021 12:37 (two years ago) link
Radiohead have been consistently terrible about putting songs that don't fit properly and stick out like sore thumbs on their albums
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 7 November 2021 13:01 (two years ago) link
KM I don't follow what you're saying about Nigel but perhaps you're not being serious
"i do wonder if it is true, as the rumors say, that phil, colin, and ed have all been sacked"
is this a rumor? I hadn't heard it.
I'm not holding my breath for a new RH album myself.
― akm, Sunday, 7 November 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link
OKC, Kid A, The King of Limbs and In Rainbows all sound to me like every song fits - or at least don’t have songs that stick out too much for me. The Bends, Amnesiac, Hail to the Thief and AMSP do have songs that don’t fit. I agree that AMSP is very consistent though if you remove BTW and place Ill Wind instead.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 7 November 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link
oh, i was joking about all that akm, sorry! i don't know why i do these things. the "sacked" rumor is one that i'm trying to start myself. it originated when the Smile had a different (much better, imo) drummer and stripped down the band to just the genius members (imo), jonny and thom
― just staying (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 November 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link
that Smile performance was very promising, i thought, particularly as the first performance of a new configuration of members with completely new songs. it sounded "raw" in a way that most modern radiohead recordings/concerts do not
― just staying (Karl Malone), Sunday, 7 November 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link
Justice for CR78
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 7 November 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link
i wouldn't expect a new rh album until maybe 2024 at earliest, since they haven't even starting recording yet
i imagine it would have happened sooner if it weren't for the pandemic - that seems the most likely reason the smile is even happening
― ufo, Sunday, 7 November 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link
it would be so appropriate with the general overtone of the band if "radiohead" as we know it is another casualty, in a roundabout way, of covid.
― the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Sunday, 7 November 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link
don't say such things pls
― DT, Sunday, 7 November 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link
Also, man how has it been FIVE YEARS since this came out? I cant cope
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 7 November 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link
OKC, Kid A, The King of Limbs and In Rainbows all sound to me like every song fits
My theory about Radiohead's seeming unimpeachability is rooted in the fact that they always include a bum track, or two, or three. It makes their records appear stronger overall when they have a "Fitter Happier"/"Treefingers"/"Hunting Bears"/"Faust Arp" etc. etc. on there.
And going even further than "a duff track", to take songs-that-are-basic-as-shit-in-their-original-incarnation like Pulk/Pull and Like Spinning Plates and Kid A and essentially destroy them by turning them backwards or mixing them badly or having a Macintosh sing them... the resultant fartsongs make everything else sound better
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 7 November 2021 23:35 (two years ago) link
the resultant fartsongs― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, November 7, 2021 3:35 PM
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, November 7, 2021 3:35 PM
disregard my previous post; i have it on good authority that this will be the title of the band's next album.
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Monday, 8 November 2021 01:19 (two years ago) link
like, basically confirmed. inform twitter.
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Monday, 8 November 2021 01:20 (two years ago) link
I actually love fitter happier and treefingers in the context of their respective albums.
Agree on hunting bears and faust arp being duds, but they’re short enough that I don’t mind them. There’s more songs in amnesiac which I find to be extremely skippable - but I tend to think very unkindly in general of that album tbh and it’s probably my least favorite next to HTTT.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 November 2021 02:32 (two years ago) link
I absolutely love the song “kid a” and wont hear this nonsense of it being a fartsong. You can throw the other two you mention to the dogs though, I don’t really care about them.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 November 2021 02:34 (two years ago) link
agree, title track from kid a has always been a keeper.
― the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Monday, 8 November 2021 02:41 (two years ago) link
Ennh “fartsong” wasn’t meant to be a diss, what they did with “Spinning Plates” was an inspired use of an otherwise kinda-insipid song I think. I lived with a potter who intentionally put leaks in the bases of her vases. She said, “when the work is less functional, it becomes more artistic.” I dunno whether I agreed with her. Then, Hideo Kohima famously said, “games can never be art because they require functionality”— paraphrased. I think about this stuff wrt Radiohead’s “top of every list” track record, that by shooting holes in their Coldplayest moments they’re making “art”, or at least the semblance of art. “Fitter Happier” is dumb, “like a pig / in a cage / on antibiotics” is actual Pink Floyd, but it strengthens my resolve that “Paranoid Android” is one of the greatest songs ever recorded— like “Fitter Happier” kinda de-stinks the stink of “the crackle of pig skin / the yuppies networking” and let’s the song slip into my personal canon
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 8 November 2021 02:45 (two years ago) link
That was some post, thank you
― akm, Monday, 8 November 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link
love this convo
i loved fitter happier for a long time. then i got a bit bored and started skipping it. then i realized that either way, it makes for the perfect lead-in to karma police and it's iconic. pretty good for the least-listened to song on the album (according to spotify at least)!
I absolutely love the song “kid a” and wont hear this nonsense of it being a fartsong.
otm. did i already mention my experience of first hearing john mayer via his cover of it, sent to me by the only guy in the dorm with long hair, over the vaunted "T1" connection that was apparently the fucking shit in 2001? he had interesting taste, and would have been a great ilxor! anyway, until i heard his version i thought of the radiohead version as kind of impenetrable or something. but mayer makes it sounds like...all his other music. so strange to go back to the original after that and suddenly hear all these soaring choruses. even today (before reading these posts), for some reason i found myself humming "we've got heads on sticks, you've got ventriloquists" in this really sweet way, like it was the most normal thing to say
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 November 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link
treefingers has raised a bit in my estimation over the years. it used to sound like flat tones to me, now I hear all the variations and different voices added and subtracted all the time. i feel like a common HS radiohead moment is when everybody's listening in the car and then it gets to treefingers. and it's like, is anyone going to make us skip this tonight.
i also have to say that i got lit 420 earlier today thought that the transition at the end of Optimistic into In Limbo is maybe underrated. when In Limbo kicks in it suddenly sounds like the lyrics in a way that is sickening and awesome
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:03 (two years ago) link
It's a double transition - there's the brief "funk" rendition of "Optimistic", and then the even briefer intro to "In Limbo" before the triplet guitar arpeggi start. It's perfectly timed to lead into the second song: "Not this... and not this either... but this!"
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 8 November 2021 03:11 (two years ago) link
yeah, i love it! that little fake-out transition is 23 seconds long.
the exact number of years he was together with rachel. but how would he know that in 2000??
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:14 (two years ago) link
also jordan's number think abt ittwo GOATs acknowledging each other
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:17 (two years ago) link
(jordan retired the season ok computer was released, returns following the release of amnesiac, i just think its an underdiscussed series of events)
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:19 (two years ago) link
anyway "kid a (the song)" is great, "fitter happier" is the "providence" of ok computer (this is Good), "treefingers" is good ambient, "hunting bears" more like "hunting for a point (and starving to death)"
i like the idea of fucking around so you know that the good shit really is the good shit
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:21 (two years ago) link
"fitter happier" is the "providence" of ok computer
yes
also WTF, WOWOWOWOW at the michael jordan connection, makes sense
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link
other important dates93 - mj retires for the first time, same year as the release of pablo honey95 - mj returns once the bends comes out03 - retires for the final time when httt comes out
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:40 (two years ago) link
9-3 = 6
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:49 (two years ago) link
colin and phil sacked for mj and phil (jackson) confirmed
― Clay, Monday, 8 November 2021 03:49 (two years ago) link
paranoid android's 3-songs-in-1 vibe = a reference to the triangle offense
― class project pat (m bison), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:54 (two years ago) link
― just staying (Karl Malone), Sunday, November 7, 2021 9:49 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is true but no one wants to talk about it bc they think they're too good for early elementary math facts
2+2 = 52 + 2 - nigel = 52 + 2 -(-1) = 5
again, nigel is a negative presence
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:58 (two years ago) link
the transition at the end of Optimistic into In Limbo
co-sign, one of my favorite moments on any radiohead album.
Ennh “fartsong” wasn’t meant to be a diss, ― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, November 7, 2021 6:45 PM
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, November 7, 2021 6:45 PM
no, i knew exactly what you meant and i liked it! thank you for expounding, just confirmed what i got from it initially but also very well articulated! i also like that you compare THEM to coldplay and not vice versa. not being snarky, i find that genuinely funny and it makes sense to phrase it that way because at this point . . . it's kind of true.
― the beginning of the end of discourse. (Austin), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:58 (two years ago) link
he is "a negative one" to be around
― just staying (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 November 2021 03:59 (two years ago) link
I like the fartsongs flamboyant tie goon mentions upthread. It's the tracks like Burn The Witch, Bodysnatchers and a few strange sequencing choices on HTTT which I was meaning upthread about certain (otherwise good) songs sticking out on otherwise consistent albums
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 8 November 2021 11:59 (two years ago) link
The biggest (and worst) fartsong is 'Feral'
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 8 November 2021 12:05 (two years ago) link
"bodysnatchers" doesn't really stick out at all, they make it work in the sequence very well somehow
amnesiac and httt are the albums where the sequencing is noticeably a problem & amnesiac is a real 'what could have been' because there was a lot of strong material left off the album
― ufo, Monday, 8 November 2021 12:23 (two years ago) link
In Rainbows has always felt like an excellent mini album with a strong double A-side tacked on the front of it. For me, it's 'Nude' that really kicks off that album's blissy, languid vibe whereas 15 Step and Bodysnatachers are spikey and/or blustering
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 8 November 2021 12:50 (two years ago) link
in fact I'd say those two songs sound much more like they'd fit on HTTT, so maybe I could look at them like they're transitioning from 2003 Radiohead to 2007.
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 8 November 2021 12:52 (two years ago) link