defend 1996

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oh it didnt really happen, it was just something i heard about from other ppl.

, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

JESS I SAID "ALT-ROCK EXPLOSION." I described electronica as "opening up into unprecedented far-flung territories."

nabisco%%, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

(Which I'm still not sure how much I can defend the latter but I would try.)

nabisco%%, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"alt-rock" = "electronica"!

geeta, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

haha thank you geeta.

jess, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

did dr. dre produce no diggety or was it the head blackstreet boy, er teddy riley? i remember dre was in the video, wearing some kind of football jersey. but yeah, it's amazing.

dave k, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Riley prod'd it. Dre just "rapped" (cough, cough) a verse

M Matos, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

haha, i don't remember his actual rapping at all, just the shot of him on the beach posing before the camera moves into the party inside. also, moby sampled the piano riff in 'honey' from california love, right?

dave k, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Best things on the radio, Auckland 1996: The Fugees (playing indie pop rap like a game of chess), the Spice Girls (pre-teen solidarity w/ partner swapping) and Darcy Clay (recorded demo, gave it the best title ever, "Jesus I Was Evil", and got it played). Does any of this cancel out Kula Shaker? Of course not.

B-Rad, Thursday, 30 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four years pass...
I was thinking the other day about how much I hated 1996 as a year for music. I only really started paying proper attention to music in 94, and yes I'm a huge advocate for Britpop (retrospectively, yes a lot of it was shite but at 15 it was all exciting!). 1996 spelled the arse-end of peak period Britpop and ushered in a bunch of bands that make my skin crawl.

Goth-Pop Revival
Garbage, Placebo, Suede - all the crap bits about Grunge but with eyeliner and men dressed in bin bags

Big Beat
A bunch of goons from Brighton making dance music out of children's cartoons is never going to be a dance revolution.

Jungle becomes Drum'n'Bass
Heralding a wave of boring loops with no energy to them at all. New Forms was a crap album, I WANT BIG BEEFY BASSLINES DAMNIT!

Britpop goes crap:
People don't remember Britpop for This Is A Low and Common People, no. People remember a bunch of soundalikes wearing waterproofs and making tuneless bilge about god knows what and Liam Gallagher flipping the bird at the camera.

Poppy Ska-Punk :
No Doubt, Reel Big Fish and that other band started it and before you knew every Hollywood High-School Prom band was fronted by a chubby goateed part-dude with a chequered tie. Queue a billion Ska-Punk covers of cheesy 80s songs.

Mitigating factors: If You're Feeling Sinister, Expecting To Fly

wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 28 July 2006 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Mitigating factors: If You're Feeling Sinister, Expecting To Fly

LOLOLOLOLOL

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Is this an attempt to make Louis Jagger feel more at home?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 28 July 2006 09:59 (seventeen years ago) link

coulda sworn 'sinister' was '97 anyway...

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Born Slippy didn't come out in 1996, I definitely remember buying some compilation which had it in 1995. But it was popularized by Trainspotting in 1996.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:03 (seventeen years ago) link

ah 'sinister' was late '96.

fair point tuomas but to all intents and porpoises, 'born slippy' fkn DEFINED '96.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, to defend 1996, one of the best rap LPs of the nineties came out then:

http://www.cdquest.com/images/album_art/sorted/0049/9250/0049925053227.jpg

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I forgot also - Presidents Of The USA and Steve Lamacq coming out as music's biggest bilge-shoveller.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:09 (seventeen years ago) link

even the Boo Radleys released a slightly weaker album, C'Mon Kids (which I still like but it's not THAT good). It just seems like everything that was popular in 1996 has aged really really badly. Fun Lovin' Criminals etc... Whereas lots things from 1994 (Parklife, Music For A Jilted Generation, SAWII), 95 (Supergrass, Common People) 97 (OK Computer and loads of other stuff) are still classic.

Shit, is OK Computer really 9 years old?!!

wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link

1996 was when techstep broke through, right? For a while it felt like the future.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link

You people are crazy! 1996 gave us:

Mogwai - "Tuner" and "Summer"
Ween - 12 Golden Country Greats
Scooter - Wicked
White Town - "Your Woman"
Air - "Modulor Mix"
Robert Miles - "Children"
DJ Trace - "Mutant Revisited"
The Cardigans - "Lovefool"
Sneaker Pimps - "Spin Spin Sugar (Armand's Dark Garage Mix)"
Disco Inferno - Technicolour

"defend 2006" would be a better thread.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link

people who think this year sucked suck

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link

WHAT ABOUT THE BLUESTONES

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ The Unstoppable Troll Machine (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Also 1996 brought us OMC and you can't diss that.

1997 was a far worse year for music and almost put me off all recorded sound forever.

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ The Unstoppable Troll Machine (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:46 (seventeen years ago) link

just think of all those people reading this revived thread now, groaning and saying about how it should be locked/deleted.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:48 (seventeen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Helenlovejoy.jpg

Sanskrit, yesterday.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Looking at that NME top 50, this was def the year that organ and I were tightest, I liked a whole lot of that list.

I realised/estimated last night that this is the 10th anniversary MONTH I got into punk rock properly, which without sounding old and shit, was probably more important (to me) in hindsight

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:51 (seventeen years ago) link

this was probably the year i bought most records and lived music most intensely.

plus it had 'endtroducing'.

but the aftertaste is curiously 'noelrock' :/

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link

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Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:57 (seventeen years ago) link

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Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:59 (seventeen years ago) link

uh

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link

lfoadvance.jpg

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:00 (seventeen years ago) link

bad hotlinkin' me

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

tell us the picture in words!

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

fixd

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

boys for pele by tori amos came out in 1996 => classic

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

excelsior!

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Tori Amos = an own goal for the defence.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 28 July 2006 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link

armand's 'professional widow' remix is ten years old woo

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:00 (seventeen years ago) link

an equaliser!

fandango (fandango), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:00 (seventeen years ago) link

lfoadvance.jpg

UGH!

armand's 'professional widow' remix is ten years old woo
and they still play it at my local club which i only went to once.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:02 (seventeen years ago) link

oh i remember our big old 'Advance' argument now.

and they still play it at my local club which i only went to once.

get out of the satellites

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:07 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah get out of the nineties, dl; down in ldn it's time for... THE EIGHTIES

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link

get out of the satellites

trying, but hertfordshire is sticky.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Defend - quite literally! - 1996 against the UK Top 10 singles from the same week in 1966, 1976, 1986 and 2006. Evidence called thus far: Technohead, Bluetones, Robert Miles, East 17.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

YES BLUETONES ARE WIN

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ The Unstoppable Troll Machine (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe not a GREAT year, but, ummm...

Aphex Twin – Richard D James (holds up just fine)
Beck – Odelay (BEST OF THE YEAR – though I never wanna hear it again)
Belle & Sebastian – If You're Feeling Sinister (haters will; it's what they do)
Blackstreet – Another Level (at least 50% boring, but "No Diggety" is the point)
Boredoms – Super Roots 6 (first sign of things to come...)
Brainiac – Hissing Prigs In Static Couture (a personal favorite, that's all)
Cradle of Filth – Dusk and Her Embrace (yes, Jan. '97 counts ... sorta)
DJ Shadow – Endtroducing (comically overrated by white boys, but WTF, you know?)
Dr. Octagon – Dr. Octagonecologist (BEST OF THE YEAR – bad year for hip hop?)
Fugees – The Score (BEST OF THE YEAR – obviously...)
Jay Z – Reasonable Doubt (BEST OF THE YEAR – come on, kids!)
Manic Street Preachers – Everything Must Go (uh, English people seem to rate it)
Marilyn Manson – Antichrist Superstar (having good taste is waaaay overrated)
Masada Chamber Ensemble – Bar Kokhba (BEST OF THE YEAR – most beautiful music Zorn's ever come within 100 miles of)
Maxwell – Maxwell's Urban Hang Suite (but it's world-class R&B pablum)
Mobb Deep – Hell On Earth (not The Infamous, but still...)
Neurosis – Through Silver In Blood (BEST OF THE YEAR – devastating)
Neutral Milk Hotel – On Avery Island (too indie for ya? – still massively influential)
Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds – Murder Ballads (chicks dig it)
Orbital – Insides (not classic, but this is a time capsule, right?)
Rocket From The Crypt - Scream, Dracula, Scream! (with Brainiac, just a record I like)
Sheryl Crow – Sheryl Crow (you're above it - so what?)
Skullflower – This Is (now available in over-the-counter form)
Sleater Kinney – Call the Doctor (every bit as good as Dig Me Out)
Spice Girls – Spice (regrets are for the little people)
Squarepusher – Feed Me Weird Things (still kinda mind-blowing)
Stereolab – Emperor Tomato Ketchup (BEST OF THE YEAR - as good as they got)
Sublime – Sublime (I hate this record, but it's better than Tortoise, so deal)
Super Furry Animals – Fuzzy Logic (insanely great, if you dig refried pop-rock leftovers)
Swans – Soundtracks for the Blind (a niche record, but a lovely one)
Tool – Aenemia (hate it, but kids'll be rocking it long after your "hits" are forgotten)
Tortoise – Millions Now Living (I say boring poo; you say classic – shrug)
Tricky – Pre-Millennium Tension (BEST OF THE YEAR – chilling, if dated)
Weezer – Pinkerton (again, it doesn't matter whether you like it or not, you'd have to be an idiot to deny the influence on / relevance to today's pop/rock)

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

comically overrated by white boys

if i may be so bold: are you white?

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

it IS comically overrated by white boys though!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 28 July 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

if you're white (and a boy), i don't think you get to call people 'white boys'.

Roughage Crew (Enrique), Friday, 28 July 2006 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link


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