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and you know Chuck with flat-blast this thread with some ctrl-v's in two seconds flat.

― Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

will, not with. and apologies to everybody who thinks rap and novelty don't mix.

― Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Lady Sov needs to get over being Lady Sov. Not that I didn't like the novelty, but it was certainly better over an EP.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link

and yeah, I don't know how anybody who pushes that grime "scenius over genius" bullshit like Simon could settle for a top 20 countdown to tell him if a genre is empty.

x-post there's enough hooks to make it work for one full-length/best-of, but newer tracks like that "remember-when" one do make me worry she's gonna run out of themes fast.

― Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i think when reviewing the LS album the conclusion i came to is that i'm not against levity/novelty in rap ("White & Nerdy" = one of my top 10 hip hop singles this year), but i'm still gonna be selective and subjective about what kind of levity/novelty i want to listen to (xp)

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

snoop dogg is looking really Haggard (pause) these days isn't he

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm sorry

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

snoop.jpg merlehaggard.jpg

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link

this reggaeton this has completely passed my by and i'm glad; i'm still down with grime.
-- the rock n roll nigga (urmuzaksu...), February 28th, 2006. (the rock n roll nigga) (later)

This is my favourite ILM post ever.

― dommy p is alright WHICH IS A LOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT A LOT OF PEOPLE (Dom, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

haha yeah sorry Al, I forgot you're just against white British women in rap.

― Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

The Stylus brass, in their infinite wisdom, have decided to bypass all of the various Brit and Anglophile writers on the staff and stunt cast someone who couldn't care less about "grime" or Lady Sovereign or any of that shit to write this review really does the beg the question of why the fuck you decided to write it.

Pitbull's album is still pretty great when it comes to cunnilingus and dancing, but I'm really disappointed that on the interludes he has to get someone else to read their political poems and his own profundities are mainly about how his life resembles a Keanu Reeves movie.

― Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I was asked to write it. In retrospect, yeah, I probably should've said no, but I like getting assignments that seem like a challenge.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Is 334 Mobb releasing an album this year? Everything I can find just says COMING SOON. All the mp3s I've grabbed of theirs sound great.

― Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

"and yeah, I don't know how anybody who pushes that grime "scenius over genius" bullshit like Simon could settle for a top 20 countdown to tell him if a genre is empty."

well if it makes any difference, he doesnt like grime anymore either. hes a bit fickle like that.

weirdly though, i dont think what he said was actually wrong.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

"Rap is BY and FOR young black men."

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

FALBU

― Zwan (miccio), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

"Rap is BY and FOR young black men."

is that simon or chuck d?

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

noted marcus garveyite al shipley.

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

:-/

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.okodif.com/images/fubu_00006.jpg

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

^ new ralf & florian line

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

also, and i say this as someone who shamelessly/fully ripped off his ideas/style for most of my early "career": can we never, ever invoke simon reynolds again when talking about modern american music?

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

rip him off and start again

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

basically.

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

and can we get back to funny quips and free association so i can get through the next 10 hours without pulling out my eyeballs?

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

c'mon turkey.

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

"We Fly High" is great! The whole Jim Jones album is pretty great too. Kind of sounds like a rock record (there's even one track where he sez "Make it sound like rock music" or something at the beginning). All doomy and gnarly, but the lyrics are totally celebratory.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

c'mon turkey.

bird(man) aka #1 stuffa

sorry.

― am0n (am0n), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:47 (seventeen years ago) link

so, i posted this request on my blog, but since no one reads it anymore (including me) and i really can't bear to read all 720 posts of this thread: now that it's nearly december, what hip-hop albums should a guy who has barely been paying attention this year hear? (stuff i have listened to all the way through: t.i., ghostface, wayne, e-40, keak, roots, some mixtapes, some stuff i'm probably forgetting.)

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I need to post my Top 25 hip-hop records list, but i still haven't heard the Clipse record!

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

OPEN TO ANYTHING

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

except, like, the diplomats.

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, am I alone in thinking Donuts is amazing and The Shining is kind of mopey and sluggish?

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Killer Mike, Trae

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i heard a killer mike single (or maybe mixtape cut) i really liked the other day.

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Most of the rap albums I liked this year were underachieving mainstream albums that were flawed but enjoyable (Field Mob, Ray Cash, Rhymefest, DJ Khaled, Remy Ma). I'm kind of shocked to realize that The Roots might be my favorite rap album this year, it has their usual problems but it just sounds ridiculously good, production-wise. Def Jam should've had them producing album tracks for all the big 4th quarter releases (if will.i.am can do it, why not ?uestlove). It's a shame that A-list MCs only fuck with the Roots when they're on the Grammys/SNL/Unplugged and not in the studio.

(xpost I've had the Killer Mike thing for a minute and keep putting off listening to it)

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i actually really liked the roots album on the first few listens (you're right: it SOUNDS amazing) but i haven't had the urge to play it since the late summer. it also felt like it fell off pretty hard in the final 1/4.

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah it helps that i just finally picked it up a couple weeks ago so it's fresh in my mind.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

chingo bling mextape (if you can find it), pitbull, tego calderon (i say it counts even if it is largely reggaeton), lyrics born, rhymefest (note: i am still as corny as ever)

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

well i'm terribly fucking fickle when it comes to albums. if it doesn't really grab me in the first three or four spins, it's probably not getting revisited. i'll probably take it home with me this weekend. (philly pride, etc.)

― my teeth are horrible, I'm gaining weight, I don't understand twelve-tone (dubpl, Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I love Rhymefest, but those beats are snooze city.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm gonna hold off saying too much until my Top 25 is finalized, but i can say that the Young Dro is fantastic and his lego-labyrynth flow should be an ATL institution like E-40's is in yay area. He does T.I. better than T.I.!

Also: Pigeon John and P.O.S. made the best two backpack records of the year easy

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Game album scanned over 360,000
file:///Users/gsulmers/Documents/Microsoft%20User%20Data/Saved%20Attachments/SALES.htm

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

OK should have checked link before i pasted

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

excuse, 380,000 copies
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=6428

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

not bad, but didn't even make the 400-500k that early reports were predicting last week. dude should've never talked about doing a mil in the first week.

― Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost re 2006 albums good but not mentioned: AZ, diddy, the game (srsly)

xpost pigeon john over the subtle record? i havent heard POS but i really like the subtle (i know im corny) and pigeon john just didnt impress me.

― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the subtle is so far away from hip-hop that i didn't even consider it! I don't know what the fuck it really is. It's great though!

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

not bad, but didn't even make the 400-500k that early reports were predicting last week. dude should've never talked about doing a mil in the first week.
-- Alex in Baltimore (shipley.a...), November 22nd, 2006 5:36 PM.

delusions of grander grandeur

― deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

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