Lol nvm, she deleted the post
― flappy bird, Sunday, 18 August 2019 22:19 (four years ago) link
Great. Cause everyone was wondering.
― Cousin Slappy, Monday, 19 August 2019 05:10 (four years ago) link
I almost never think about Grimes and I'm not really a fan, but the other day "Kill V. Maim" came on in a mix and it struck me as very emblematic of its time. I would definitely put it on an end-of-decade mix.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 19 August 2019 05:38 (four years ago) link
I've always looked at music criticism, reviews, message boards, etc. as a way of finding and rediscovering music without giving any weight at all to the opinions behind the writing. I kinda sift through the opinions for keywords or phrases that are suited to my taste or warn me that I probably won't be into the music being discussed. The idea that someone can interpret a song, or any art for that matter, and bludgeon everyone else with that interpretation seems pretty dickish.That said, I hope Grimes isn't dissected into oblivion by fans and critics alike. She's so damn likable, but even better than that she has interesting songs and you can actually dance to some of them. The ideas behind them are what stick out for me.― Cousin Slappy, Friday, March 16, 2012 11:34 AM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink
That said, I hope Grimes isn't dissected into oblivion by fans and critics alike. She's so damn likable, but even better than that she has interesting songs and you can actually dance to some of them. The ideas behind them are what stick out for me.
― Cousin Slappy, Friday, March 16, 2012 11:34 AM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink
wow seriously homie what horrible thing did she say to you when you found out her address through a shady private detective and showed up at her front door with flowers and a handgun
― omar little, Monday, 19 August 2019 06:09 (four years ago) link
wait hold up don't answer that you weird obsessive, i don't want to have nightmares
― omar little, Monday, 19 August 2019 06:11 (four years ago) link
https://player.fm/series/the-underculture-with-james-adomian/elon-musk-grimes-azealia-banks-w-courtney-pauroso-and-madison-shepard
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link
I think bringing Comedy Bang-Bang into this is just what this album cycle needed.
― ☮ (peace, man), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link
on a tangential note, should I check out Nicole Dollanganger’s music and catch her live show? noticed she’s playing her locally pretty soon and I know Grimes has boosted her
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 19 August 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
xpost
It's not her I have an issue with at all. We actually share a ton in common, especially when it comes to dating and being openly hypocritical. It's her disugsting fans that make my skin crawl. The way you guys infantalize this grown woman is an assault on my senses. Grimes is a-ok in my book.
― Cousin Slappy, Monday, 19 August 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link
no it clearly is her you have an issue with
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 August 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
freak
Hmmm. Name-calling? Ok.
― Cousin Slappy, Monday, 19 August 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
Violence @ midnight !!!! pic.twitter.com/OqGQIXp6bC— ༺GRIM ≡゚S༻(⧖) (@Grimezsz) September 4, 2019
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
The Hunger Grimes
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
zzzzz
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link
Cautiously optimistic
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
in that "can't believe i ever liked this schitt lol" phase
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link
Relistened to art angels recently and was reminded Grimes fucking owns and I don’t care what dumb shit she says in interviews or which colossal idiot she dates. We Appreciate Power is great too
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 5 September 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link
Definitely. wheres the single
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 September 2019 04:20 (four years ago) link
tbf she never specified which planet's midnight
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 September 2019 04:22 (four years ago) link
it's out in 2 and a half hours here: https://youtu.be/M9SGYBHY0qs
also is a collaboration with i_o who seems to be some edm guy i've never heard of?
― ufo, Thursday, 5 September 2019 04:26 (four years ago) link
we’ve still got a couple hours until west coast midnight!
― untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 5 September 2019 04:27 (four years ago) link
So... video is cool, that neoclassical aesthetic is overdone at this point but I’ll always love it. It’s sprinkled with some k-pop vibe which fits her I suppose.
Production is good but the “i like it like that” is mixed in a way that stands out too much and it’s kind of jarring, it’s a stupid hook too but it’s catchy. It’s weird that the more she improves her production techniques, the more generic she sounds to me.
The common link between We appreciate power and this one is the chorus overstays its welcome, it’s repeated until it feels drilled into your brain. I don’t remember her previous chorus being as repetitive as these past two, or maybe there were more ideas thrown in that made me not notice it.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 5 September 2019 07:20 (four years ago) link
I kinda liked WAP but this seems to be not good.
― Simon H., Thursday, 5 September 2019 07:34 (four years ago) link
Both 'We Appreciate Power' and this are more palatable to my ears than 90% of Art Angels, so a modicum of cautious optimism is in order. I do agree with Moka that the choruses are insolently repetitive but that was already true of 'Oblivion', wasn't it?
― pomenitul, Thursday, 5 September 2019 08:25 (four years ago) link
it's ok but mostly leaves me feeling like she can do a lot better. the vocal melody is nice enough but her vocals are even more indistinct than usual and don't seem to quite fit with the backing track which is very bland and anonymous (blaming i_o for this), so there's not a lot to actually grab onto. if this track were on art angels (songwriting-wise it would have been right at home, it's just the production lets it down) it would have been much more densely packed with hooks
― ufo, Thursday, 5 September 2019 08:47 (four years ago) link
i guess a positive is i can barely make out anything she's saying so i have no idea if the lyrics are as silly as "we appreciate power"
― ufo, Thursday, 5 September 2019 08:54 (four years ago) link
It’s weird that the more she improves her production techniques, the more generic she sounds to me.
― ArchCarrier, Thursday, 5 September 2019 09:21 (four years ago) link
Nothing weird about it tbh.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 5 September 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link
I haven't listened to Art Angels in a while, but on first listen one of the melodies feels lifted from one of those songs.
― ☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 5 September 2019 11:49 (four years ago) link
i think it's just a very typically grimes melody, the sort that was all over art angels. that's not a bad thing at all, i just wish the backing was better (and i'm largely blaming her choice of collaborator, i_o, for this since his solo work sounds very similarly bland from the little i listened)
― ufo, Thursday, 5 September 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link
improving production at the cost of distinctiveness is a story as old as production itself
this all has a certain “jokers trick” aspect to it ...
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 5 September 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link
"my goal is to make climate change fun (lol..??)" - joker
― ufo, Thursday, 5 September 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
tangentially, I did end up seeing the Grimes-boosted Nicole Dollanganger last week and it was a pretty good show!
― untuned mass damper (mh), Thursday, 5 September 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link
this is decent but definitely more in the realm of grimes music that poppy et al. have moved into while she was between albums, and thus sounds less exciting
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Thursday, 5 September 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link
I mean it's weird because supposedly the more you master something the more 'freely' you can push the limit of your knowledge. I mean Picasso had to learn and master how to paint properly first before he evolved it into his own style. According to her Visions was created in Garageband in a week since she couldn't leave her home due to a fever. Even with the rushed job and some of the presets she used it probably is her most creative and unique sounding album.
That said, I didn't know who i_o was or that he was a co-producer in this one, and apparently he is an edm producer which is a red flag in itself, so I'll also send blame of the genericness of this one his way. Is there a genre more generic than EDM in the past decade? I think that might be one of the few genres where it's extremely difficult to tell an artists production work one from another.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link
it's also the difference between working on an album for 2 weeks and working on an album for 2 years
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link
But also every producer knows that you get the most interesting results out of a piece of gear the first time you use it, when you're exciting and don't really know what you're doing yet.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
usually yes
― flappy bird, Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
(exciting -> excited)
Also creating without the expectation of an audience vs the knowledge of a huge audience, and the usual curve of your technical expertise and experience going up while the number of good ideas that are most 'you' go down/get used up, etc.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 5 September 2019 16:54 (four years ago) link
Yes those are good points. There’s a lot of pressure on her in this album’s cycle that wasn’t there before and there have been several signs, like behind the curtain drama with her label and the constant re-scheduling.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
― flappy bird, Thursday, September 5, 2019 9:28 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Makes me think of Brian Eno saying how deadlines and small budgets usually make for great records and how no deadlines and endless budgets don’t
― winters (josh), Thursday, 5 September 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link
My feeling is ppl are jumping to conclusions way too fast itt; this is more how I hoped “art angels” era would sound, maybe not a home run as a single but I could see being either disappointed or exciting depending on what follows ... not mad at refinement though, a lot of ilx hated “the present lover” for similar reasons & imo that album is a total classic
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 5 September 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link
i personally like the track but i also don't have a particular allegiance to any single grimes style or sound or aesthetic, i'd have been disappointed if she'd stuck to a Visions template. it's hard to remember now how some of her earlier stuff found its way into chillwave threads (where even then something like "Vanessa" stood out as superior to most of the other tracks being posted and that's where i first heard of her) and it's probably good she didn't stick to a predictable path.
― omar little, Thursday, 5 September 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link
Oh, I like this much more than WAP
― winters (josh), Friday, 6 September 2019 03:42 (four years ago) link
love the way this song sounds
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 6 September 2019 03:43 (four years ago) link
I've listened to it a few more times and I'm enjoying it more than my first listen. I guess the reservation I really have with it is that it sounds like the coda to some longer, more fleshed out song. Which it very well could be, in context of the album, but it's a pretty irritating choice for a first single.
― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, 6 September 2019 11:12 (four years ago) link
This new song is great, easily the most I've ever enjoyed her music.
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
this sounds like a good song to do the macarena to
― Non stop chantar (crüt), Friday, 6 September 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link
Hmmmmmmm...
.@Grimezsz is awesome. That is all.— Andrew Yang (@AndrewYang) September 9, 2019
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 9 September 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link