or the sex toy wins?
― Billy Pilgrim, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Fun idea.
Steely Dan can turn "Station to Station" into something every bit as imperious as (and maybe nastier than) Bowie's. I can also hear Bowie singing "Third World Man." But he's utterly incapable of "Peg" – it would sound like "Blue Jean."
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link
undoable
― roxymuzak, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah tough, but I can say that SD hasn't ever done anything that outright sucked, so... there is that.
― will, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link
impossible
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link
steely dan wins on consistency i guess but bowie has as many good albums as there are steely dan albums
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I haven't even started reading the No Age thread. I hope this takes a day or two to start clusterfucking.
― BigLurks, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Fleetwood Mac in a heartbeat.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link
roxy music vs doobie bros.
― gershy, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link
http://image.com.com/mp3/images/cover/200/dre800/e823/e82310lph7b.jpg
― am0n, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Roxy's bros v. doobie music?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link
david bowie ---> real name david jones -->changed because of davy jones of the monkees-->was in the musical Oliver! as a boy -->musical has a character by the name of Fagin -->donald fagen
― gershy, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Steely Dan = always boring David Bowie = only sometimes boring
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link
uh I don't think anyone can rep for that Tin Machine nonsense so I'm saying: THE DAN
― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link
David Bowie has more flavors, and more songs that still surprise me, so Bowie.
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Is Fake Tuomas branching out into crustier realms of RONGness?
― David R., Tuesday, 6 May 2008 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Steely Dan have always been awful, wine-bar, patches-on-the-elbows-of-your-corduroy-blazer CRAP. Bowie's had his rough moments, but he's capable of a brilliance that "the Dan" could never hope to attain in a thousand years.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link
OH MAN BUT WHEN THEY GET HOME FROM THE WINE BAR
― 69, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Steely Dan, easy.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link
That scathing scare-quotation of "the Dan" is the moneyshot up there.
― David R., Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link
http://homepage.mac.com/alexinnyc/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2007-09-28%2005.59.27%20-0700/Image-C30C58296DC111DC.jpg
No patches, but...
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i've seen your picture...
(I always thought Alex tolerated - maybe even begrudgingly respected - "the Dan")
― will, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I begrudgingly respect the dan and even agree that CBAT is a pretty can't-miss album but up against the bowie they are some watered-down chardonnay
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link
If Alex had ever been to a wine bar, he'd know that a jacket with elbow patches is the LAST thing you'd wear.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Knew that picture would come back to haunt me. Just out of shot, of course, it my BEER (I don't do wine well).
I respect the Dan, but that doesn't mean I have to like nor listen to them. And compared to Bowie? Give me a break. That don't stand a chance.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link
And that jacket's not corduroy, btw.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Seriously, though, Steely Dan never rocked. Never shocked. Never pushed the envelope. Never challenged. They just make jazzy muso sophisto-pop. Yawn.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link
you're drinking HEINEKEN in that picture though is the thing
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link
All in fun, Alex. Just that your original comment gave me some deja vu.
TAKING SIDES: Steely Dan vs. The Circle Jerks
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link
It was the only beer on offer (high school reunion held at restaurant of former classmate's father. Open bar. Wine or Heineken. I chose Heineken. And would again).
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link
your original comment gave me some deja vu.
Clearly, I'm running out of tricks.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i was just kidding too. and i feel like i've made fun of that heineken before
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I begrudgingly respect the danBowie and even agree that CBATChangesbowie is a pretty can't-miss album but up against the bowieSteely Dan they are some watered-down chardonnayhe is a soulless robot.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link
ok if you think david bowie is a soulless robot compared to Dan I'm really not sure how you listen to music aja sounds like it was made with fucking pro tools, in a bad way
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link
jazzy muso sophisto-pop
I feel like I'm repeating myself, too, but this sounds awesome.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link
aja sounds like it was made with fucking pro tools, in a bad way
slick =/= emotionless
― o. nate, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link
actually in terms of sound quality it is very slick, but totally and analog album, not thin or grating sounding like bad pro tools stuff.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Bowie "pushed the boundaries"?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link
funny, they both look worse compared to the other, to me. against steely dan, bowie's working class intellectual theatre bs looks sort of grasping and desperate. against bowie, steely dan's perfectionism looks really paranoid and fearful. they're both... thin skinned? in a way.
― gff, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link
tom i think the production technology SD used in the studio was just a small mountain of cocaine
― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:39 (sixteen years ago) link
i love steely dan to death. i unreservedly love every album they made in their original go-round. and i think "the rise and fall of ziggy..." and "low," to name just two, completely blow away anything they ever did. so. bowie.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link
It's a close tie these days. At their best Bowie and SD are absolute triumphs of persona, sound, and vision (har har). For me both Low and Gaucho delineate a kind of urban malaise; the latter just happens to be the West Coast kind.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:43 (sixteen years ago) link
David Bowie has never made an album I could listen to all the way through. On the other hand, there are times when spending my whole life listening to Gaucho on a loop seems very appealing indeed.
― unperson, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:45 (sixteen years ago) link
this is easy because Bowie made plenty of genuinely shitty records, which SD never did
― J0hn D., Tuesday, 6 May 2008 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link
It may seem laughable today, but yes. Yes, he did.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link
bowie made a video referencing la jetee
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
bowie has portrayed both nikola tesla and pontius pilate in films
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
I can also hear Bowie singing "Third World Man."
I want this to exist. If only to pick it apart and decide it's nowhere near as goos as Dan.
― kenan, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Bowie "pushed the boundaries"?It may seem laughable today, but yes. Yes, he did.
Low still sounds fresh, and inventive, today. (I like Steely Dan fine, though).
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 6 May 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link
The Dan never had an album cover as unfortunate as "Diamond Dogs."
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean, i love the dan, but ppl are starting to talk shit about bowie's HAIR? that ain't right. that mane is top 10 of all time.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I have about five dan tracks on my ipod and they all sound the same. i have about five bowie albums and they all sound different (and great). so, bowie.-- ledge, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:33 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
-- ledge, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:33 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
This is not a bad thing
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link
that mane is top 10 of all time.
His hair can't hold a candle to Michael McDonald's!
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link
omg KEEP MICHAEL MCDONALD'S HAIR AWAY FROM OPEN FLAME
― kenan, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link
http://img.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/94992/ghostrider_qjgenth.jpg
― kenan, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/65/197232714_1a90298f64_o.png
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link
michael mcD has a sweet silver session dude mullet, i ain't gonna lie, but c'mon bowie's hair can do it all...glam shag, proto-new wave slick, 80s big....bowie's hair is a complete player, can hit the outside shot, good post moves, rebounding, good passing and can run the offense...those locks go off for a triple double every night....
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link
There's only one way to settle this, once and for all............
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah that's why I made a poll on ILM about it
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Top four American Idolers did "Reelin' in the Years" tonight in their typical Up With People style.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 8 May 2008 02:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Um, and it was "500 Songs That Shaped Rock and Roll" week (the 500 songs courtesy of The Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame). Where they usually medley The Beatles or whoever, "Reelin'" was the only song they performed which means it stood in for ALL 500 SONGS!
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 8 May 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link
ergo bowie wins
― tricky, Thursday, 8 May 2008 03:00 (sixteen years ago) link
too bad it wasn't "showbiz kids".
― tricky, Thursday, 8 May 2008 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link
? bowie vs anyone --> bowie
― daria-g, Thursday, 8 May 2008 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link
steely dan: loved by chaki, bozelka, gabbneb and that fuck from the mountain goats.
enjoy your tofu, douche parade
-- El Tomboto, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 12:44 AM (22 hours ago) Bookmark Link
me and john d vs
http://www.lifeishell.de/oldcontent/goths2.jpg
― chaki, Thursday, 8 May 2008 06:06 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry but bowie easy
― strgn, Thursday, 8 May 2008 08:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Bowie has had some truly crap low points, but the high points of his career have been great. You can't say he's had a boring career.
Whereas everything about Steely Dan is boring.
― sparkletuna, Friday, 9 May 2008 12:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Sunday, 11 May 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
you guys are going to be so aggravatingly ILM about this shit aren't you
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 11 May 2008 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link
And only you can divert the ILM Space Ark from its collision course with the asteroid.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 12 May 2008 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link
ILM is so fuckin ILM sometimes
― Niles Caulder, Monday, 12 May 2008 02:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i agree with gabbneb on ILE somewhat frequently.
enjoy your tofu, douche parade </hstencil>?
― ian, Monday, 12 May 2008 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link
somebody's got to pick up the slack
― El Tomboto, Monday, 12 May 2008 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I was gonna refuse to vote on this cos it's impossible but instead I've reacted against the terrible negative campaigning on this thread.
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 12 May 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
niles is otm. It's like when you turn on MTV and you say "yup, that's exactly what I expected to see.." This thread made me say that.
― billstevejim, Monday, 12 May 2008 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think there is a single artist or band that I would choose over Steely Dan.
― chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Monday, 12 May 2008 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
McCain vs Obama.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link
whatevs, amigos.
― Frogman Henry, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link
wow!!!
― El Tomboto, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link
lurkertronics
haha wow, indeed. I'm pretty sure I didn't even vote.
― will, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link
http://i32.tinypic.com/11w9b48.gif
― jhøshea, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link
an example of the Politics of the Old.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link
you guys, people can vote once a day.
― chaki, Monday, 12 May 2008 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Hey, chaki's right! I never knew that before.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 01:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Ah, that would explain why The Dan got as many votes.
― Billy Dods, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 04:15 (sixteen years ago) link
There's no one who can hold a candle to the Dan. Pretzel Logic - what a masterpiece.
― Dingbod Kesterson, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 10:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Wasn't there a "holding a candle to the Dan" scene in Naked Lunch? Come to think of it, wouldn't Burroughs be the pivot man in this whole circle jerk?
― briania, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:39 (sixteen years ago) link
-- chaki, Monday, May 12, 2008 7:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
I haven't been able to do this lately. Not that I ever did in a serious poll such as this. I figured maybe they fixed then glitch
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:44 (sixteen years ago) link
fuck! "the glitch"
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:45 (sixteen years ago) link
then is the new teh
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 12:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Let's put it this way: Steely Dan did the smart thing by sitting out the eighties.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, May 6, 2008 9:27 PM (1 year ago)
― iatee, Saturday, 29 August 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link
That quote is beyond priceless.
― ― I was Marissa Marchant, Monday, August 8, 2005 10:03 AM (4 ye (PappaWheelie V), Saturday, 29 August 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link