― Kris, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Josh, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ernest, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 27 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 14 November 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
...still...i think the argument is probably their best album, and would be a great conclusion....
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 05:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― curmudgeon (Steve K), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 06:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― nancyboy (nancyboy), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I fucking love this record.
http://sickmouthy.com/2013/01/25/fugazi-the-argument-2001/
― i would never inflict the process of making a sandwich on myself (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 25 January 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
i used to think it was the pick of their catalog, but now i think the sound of it didn't age well. something about it is too serious and "mature".i prefer Red Medicine or Kill Taker, which are rawer,dirtier and less calculated.
― nostormo, Friday, 25 January 2013 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
more real?
― moët plaudit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 25 January 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
don't get me wrong, i like The Argument, but it's maybe just a little too "arty" for me.epic problem.
― nostormo, Friday, 25 January 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
not real enough
― moët plaudit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 25 January 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
epic problem owns
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 25 January 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it does
― nostormo, Friday, 25 January 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
All the tracks with prominent double drum kits are amazing. Just played this through my serious headphone rig for probably the first time and it was amazing. Proper spellbinding.
― i would never inflict the process of making a sandwich on myself (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 25 January 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
I was just thinking about how hard End Hits rocks. Must listen to The Argument again.
― owenf, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
Although I'd probably chop the last couple songs off it and Arpeggiator goes on just a tiny bit too long
― owenf, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
the argument rules as do all fugazi albums
― mh (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 January 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
Eh, I think End Hits and Argument are patchy enough.
The aggressive stuff is good, but some of the other stuff...take or leave it.
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
In On The Kill Taker, for example, is vastly superior.
And its more subdued tracks like Sweet and Low is much better than any of the last two's examples.
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
IOTKT might be my fave
― Still S.M.D.H. ft. (will), Friday, 25 January 2013 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
I was just appreciating Canty on "Recap Modotti" this morning.
― bentelec, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
smh @ "vastly superior," one of the most even discographies ever quality-wise
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
end hits kicks ass up and down the block just like kill taker
I feel like End Hits works so well because it gets the ratio between payoffs and proper 'moments' and left turns so right. I think Fugazi work best when they're not left to meander.
― owenf, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
There's some real 'Rock music' cliches in there, like the 'Hey man do the riff but this time without the bass for a couple measures'. Then throwing in a red herring at exactly the right times to make those moments more worthwhile.
― owenf, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
it's also full of other 'Rock music' cliches such as guitars and singing
― del griffith, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
new fugazi leaked
― am0n, Saturday, 26 January 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
restart steam
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 26 January 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the stature The Argument has over End Hits is so unjust imo
― fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Saturday, 26 January 2013 01:25 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, just because it's better is no reason to ... oh, wait.
What I love about "End Hits" is, as the least accessible/immediate Fugazi, it still holds all these neat surprises, which is such a nice thing to have from a band that likely will never record again. So, sure, I listen to it less than all of the other ones, but it's the only one I listen to that, because I'm not as familiar with it front to back, still surprises me with each listen.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's got nooks and crannies
― some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:27 (eleven years ago) link
― am0n, Friday, January 25, 2013 7:03 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ILM should pre-cover it, even though it's not real
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Saturday, 26 January 2013 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
i never really gelled to end hits and the argument. you could argue that steady diet is fugazi's most subpar record and i'd probably agree but the high points (reclamation, dear justice letter, long division, latin roots) are soooooo much better than anything from their last 2 albums. accusing a band of sounding a little too derivative of themselves is kinda foolish but i feel that way about their latest stuff. maybe it has to do with the fact i listened to fugazi basically in chronological order, i don't know.
― cock chirea, Saturday, 26 January 2013 05:07 (eleven years ago) link
I find that middle section of End Hits drags really badly....Floating Boy, Closed Captioned et al..I appreciate the effort but to me each song isn't compelling enough.
I think concise/focused Fugazi is their strongest suit...working 'experiment' elements to that is good (IOTKT, Red Medicine), but to me the focus drops too often on the last two.
I don't think their late-period meandering is their strongest point.
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 27 January 2013 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
How anyone can say End Hits kicks an equal amount of ass as Kill Taker...I dunno, we'll probably always disagree there.
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 27 January 2013 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
This could be a 1990-1995 vs. 1996-2000 argument too...in terms of how many Fugazi-type bands and peers turned the guitars down/experimented a bit
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 27 January 2013 03:18 (eleven years ago) link
xp I love End Hits as much as Kill Taker, maybe more. Rocks as hard (or harder), takes more chances.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 27 January 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
End Hits and Kill Taker are my two favourites but Brad is right, there aren't any bad Fugazi albums.
― Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 27 January 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
Nothing on "End Hits" rocks as hard as the first two songs on "Kill Taker" alone.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah there's not a single fugazi album i don't at least (at least!) like a lot, but in terms of "rocking hard" kill taker is pretty much the peak.
― let's go do some crimes (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
they're all kinda doing different things, and there are certainly hard-rocking moments on all of them, but just in terms of songwriting/approach, there's probably a reason they went to albini for the first version of kill taker.
― let's go do some crimes (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
is Steady Diet generally perceived to be "subpar"? my copy was stolen (along with the bulk of all my other CDs) in college and somehow I've never replaced it. but I remember it fondly.
actually, at the time i think Repeater got the least amount of play by me of any of the first four (counting 13 Songs as one of those "four" btw)
― Still S.M.D.H. ft. (will), Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
"Steady Diet" I think threw people off for being relatively chill and polished after "Repeater," which is such a raw disc (esp. compared to the EPs).
Albini I seem to recall at one point claimed the only two bands he would produce for free were Fugazi and I want to say Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet (!). Both of whom he eventually produced, the Fugazi getting scrapped and the Shadowy Men ("Sport Fishin'") not so hot.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 January 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
"five corporations"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 27 January 2013 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
Steady Diet is unfairly maligned - it is only the "worst" Fugazi album because their bar is so high. There are so many classics on that record. I think its worst offense is its pacing - it's the only album that so rigidly switches between Ian songs and Guy songs, back and forth, back and forth. It seems to ignore a track listing that might lean more on the flow of the songs themselves rather than this weird democratic conch shell hand off.
I wrote about the Argument a few months ago - the one Fugazi album I'd never heard all the way through until just recently.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:34 (eleven years ago) link
i h8 end hits, def their worst
― am0n, Monday, 28 January 2013 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2014/08/11/new-fugazi-music-well-very-old-fugazi-music/
First Demo (from 1988) coming out this winter
― curmudgeon, Monday, 11 August 2014 17:03 (nine years ago) link
― am0n, Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:42 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
boo
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 August 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link
Tracklist: 1) Waiting Room 2) Merchandise 3) Furniture 4) Song #1 5) The Word6) Bad Mouth 7) Break-In 8) Turn Off Your Guns 9) And the Same 10) In Defense of Humans 11) Joe #1
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link