I love Swans, but not sure I want to see a naked, sweating, 55-yr-old Gira...
See this seems so close to the point of what Swans were actually about
― Iniesta, I Can Boogie (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 May 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link
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If there is any reformation I'd like to see it's this one. I would kill to see Swans live.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), den 30 maj 2009 02:05 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 30 May 2009 01:49 (fifteen years ago) link
16" hihat not weirdly overszd actually, just a bit fuller when fuller is a good thing.
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 30 May 2009 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link
StanM upthread has it. There won't be any Swans "reunion", because Swans is just Michael Gira plus whoever he wants to play with him. It's highly unlikely he would bring back any of the former members, even Jarboe (they don't get on anymore).
― anagram, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 08:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Hmmmmmmmmm @ the last sentence here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnie_Signorelli
― StanM, Monday, 8 June 2009 10:33 (fifteen years ago) link
unexpected noise moments: algis kizys listed in credits as "driver" for this show
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalom_in_the_Home
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 8 June 2009 12:48 (fifteen years ago) link
i would like them to reform since I missed the last time they played in the bay area because I got confused and had my weeks off and have regretted this ever since.
― akm, Monday, 8 June 2009 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link
No more updates re: possibilities then? Not even about the once-rumored archived live recordings?
Come on Swans! Public Is A Good Idea!
― StanM, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Gira mentions the possibility of playing again as Swans in a new newsletter here:
http://younggodrecords.com/News/Detail/?C=2218
― anagram, Thursday, 11 June 2009 08:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay so I just had that rare musical blowaway moment -- 'Helpless Child' on Soundtracks For The Blind!
Oh my God.
― David Katz (davek_00), Sunday, 3 January 2010 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Something's underway. The official Swans Myspace page just got changed from saying "Swans are dead" to "Swans are not dead". And there's a new song posted, credited to M Gira/Swans (just a demo, though).
― anagram, Saturday, 9 January 2010 05:45 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.myspace.com/swansaredead
OMG! Thanks for the quick heads up!
Not Insane is one of his solo things: http://younggodrecords.com/Releases/Detail.asp?C=2217 , but it also says Swans, so ?
― StanM, Saturday, 9 January 2010 07:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Gira has always switched between playing songs solo and as Swans. If Swans aren't dead then I'm not really bothered until we find out who Swans are now.
― Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 10:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Not at all. Swans existed from 82 to 97 and in that time he only put out one solo album and never played live solo. Since then he has played Swans songs from time to time at solo gigs but has never gone under the Swans name.
As for who Swans are now, it will almost certainly not include any of the key members from past line-ups. It will probably be people who he has played with as Angels of Light and/or new people. Jarboe is not involved. And even though I can't wait for these shows I don't really care who the other musicians are, since Swans is essentially Gira + whoever.
― anagram, Saturday, 9 January 2010 10:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude, I am giving up snark for Christmas so I will be straight with you, sometimes you come across a bit condescending, which is not a great look, especially combined with rong.
― Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 10:52 (fourteen years ago) link
OK but I'd be interested to know what is "rong" about my post.
― anagram, Saturday, 9 January 2010 10:58 (fourteen years ago) link
My original post might've been a bit ambiguous but I was trying to say that Gira sometimes used Swans as a vehicle for songs he'd then play solo, so it doesn't feel surprising that he would have a reformed "Swans" playing an old solo song. And if Swans is essentially Gira + backing randomers then really what is the point of a Swans at all?
― Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 11:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Well all I can say to that last point is that I saw Swans in '86, '87, '92, '95 and '97. In '97 I saw them thirty times. Each one of those tours had different people in the line-up as regards guitar, bass and drums. Other than Gira, Jarboe was the only constant. None of that mattered, they were all Swans and each one as powerful as the other.
― anagram, Saturday, 9 January 2010 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link
It's like, y'know, six months from now, I can't see myself missing Jarboe more than I might miss Ross McLochness, or Ronnie Pudding, or Danny Upham, or Little Danny Schindler, or any of those.
― Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2010 11:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i'd love to see vudi and joe goldring and basically the same people on sountracks tour with gira since I missed all those shows last time.
― akm, Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I vote for a Swans All Star Review Kinda Thing with five lineups and sets per night.
― StanM, Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link
(review? is that even remotely like the word I was looking for? :-/ )
― StanM, Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
More news here. Westberg is on board, fab.
― anagram, Saturday, 9 January 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG
― Jamie_ATP, Saturday, 9 January 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link
now we're talking
― sleeve, Saturday, 9 January 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
yes!
― stirmonster, Saturday, 9 January 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Ivan likes this.
― Ivan, Sunday, 10 January 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Stan agrees with Ivan.
― StanM, Sunday, 10 January 2010 05:36 (fourteen years ago) link
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It's like, y'know, six months from now, I can't see myself missing Jarboe more than I might miss Ross McLochness, or Ronnie Pudding, or Danny Upham, or Little Danny Schindler, or any of those."
LOL!
― Nate Carson, Sunday, 10 January 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
First show announced (but not necessarily the first show they'll play, if you get my meaning), at a festival in Birmingham, the armpit of the United Kingdom.
http://www.capsule.org.uk/supersonic/
― anagram, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Guys, I have a friend who has a friend in the current Swans lineup. Word is that the album is finished already, and that Swans are lining up a sizeable US tour. Austin is on the agenda (which is all I care about, really) but I expect they'll hit a good number of cities, not just the NYC/Cali circuit or anything.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
thor is stoked
― Twink Will Ferrell (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
St. Helens is the armpit of the UK. Birmingham is it's massive and pattable belly. Also, if anyone hasn't attended Supersonic yet they should think about rectifying that mistake.
― Doran, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i've been meaning to make it over for a while
― swag surfer blood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Supersonic is a wonderful festival. I've been for the last three years and loved it every time.
― krakow, Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I have a feeling they'll either play an ATP-promoted show while they're over here, or headline/curate of the December Butlins things.
Genuinely stoked to see them live, it's going to be mythic.
― Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 7 April 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
*one of the
First round of tour dates announced, you lucky lucky Americans.
09-28 Philadelphia, PA - Trocadero Theater09-29 Washington, DC - Black Cat09-30 Boston, MA - Middle East10-01 Montreal, Quebec - Pop Montreal Festival10-02 Toronto, Ontario - Lee's Palace10-04 Detroit, MI - Crofoot Ballroom10-05 Chicago, IL - Bottom Lounge10-08 Brooklyn, NY - Brooklyn Masonic Temple10-09 New York, NY - Bowery Ballroom10-22-24 Birmingham, England - Supersonic Festival
― anagram, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Classic up through Children of Light. Good all the way through. No duds.
― ImprovSpirit, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link
tix on sale for philly, nyc, and boston now
― (e_3) (Edward III), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link
uk tour dates:
October 21 Cyprus Avenue, Cork
October 22 Button Factory, Dublin
October 24 Supersonic Festival, Birmingham
October 25 Arches, Glasgow
October 28 Koko, London
October 29 Uni Stylus, Leeds
October 30 Academy, Manchester
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I shall Koko.
― Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
That's the Sunday of Supersonic then, presumably in the slot Goblin were in last year.
― BLOODY BOLLOCKS HELL! (aldo), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh jaysus Koko, why?
― double shyamalan (MaresNest), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyhoo, Neubauten weekend then Swans a few days later, going to be a heavy October
― double shyamalan (MaresNest), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Also Brighton on Oct 27, I'll be there and at Koko.
― anagram, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Brussels, Ancienne Belgique, Nov. 25
― StanM, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
and – omg – Vienna Arena, 7 Dec. Now we're talking.
― anagram, Thursday, 27 May 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Vienna - woohoo!
― Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Thursday, 27 May 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link