over 35...and it's a hell of a lot harder for new bands to get admitted to the canon.
OTM. Yet Parquet Courts have made my personal canon. I'd even go as far as saying A. Savage is the best millennial rocker.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 13 July 2018 13:50 (five years ago) link
I don't listen to much rock these days but I make exceptions for these:
Parquet CourtsSacred PawsOughtBig ThiefFuture IslandsLescopAlgiers
And the thing is I like these acts LOADS compared to a lot of everything else I listen to, but I just don't involve myself much in the style as I might once have
― Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Friday, 13 July 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link
like they're part of my canon and very high on there
doggie needs to get down w the bradnelsonwave
― flopson, Friday, 13 July 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link
rock is good now
does that mean rockism is the new poptimism?
― enochroot, Friday, 13 July 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link
rockism != rock is good
― flopson, Saturday, 14 July 2018 02:33 (five years ago) link
bradnelsonwave is definitely rockpoptimism par excellence
― Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Monday, 16 July 2018 09:05 (five years ago) link
I was actually wondering whether brad would like this band
― k3vin k., Monday, 16 July 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link
i don't! i see what they're doing and i appreciate it and can see the craft but it's not for me
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 16 July 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
that was pretty much what I figured lol
― k3vin k., Monday, 16 July 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link
respect
― flopson, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
Theres a good interview with A.Savage in this months Tape Op magazine, all about their recording process etc
― raise my chicken finger (Willl), Sunday, 29 July 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link
good indeed, but he doesn't come off as the most easy-going guy in the world does he?https://tapeop.com/interviews/126/andrew-savage/
― niels, Monday, 30 July 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link
haha did he ever?
great interview, thanks for the tip - i let my tapeop subscription lapse.
― flappy bird, Monday, 30 July 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
punk songsi thought that they were differentand i thought that they could end it no, no it was a deception
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 18 August 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link
Of course it was a deception... but was his takeaway from that realization: “Maybe Danger Mouse production will do the trick?”
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 18 August 2018 05:56 (five years ago) link
To elaborate (rather than snark & run): “Pretty Machines” is a great, catchy song about (I think) realizing you can’t escape being a subject of consumer culture and mass media, and a complicated relationship to rock ‘n roll as part of that.And yet this band seems to have de-evolved to ever-clumsier “political” moves — to the point that it’s now yelling “I’M WIDE AWAKE!” over a bed of moar cowbell.
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Saturday, 18 August 2018 06:26 (five years ago) link
The lyrics on their most recent album are their best, IMO.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 18 August 2018 08:15 (five years ago) link
huh, I never took 'Wide Awake' as meant to be literal
― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 18 August 2018 08:28 (five years ago) link
it's just a goofy little punk/funk jam with an arch lyrical conceit, y'know? I think it's fun
― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Saturday, 18 August 2018 08:29 (five years ago) link
And it's one track
― Mark G, Saturday, 18 August 2018 08:31 (five years ago) link
🖲
It's fun and the Danny Krivit re-edit is well fucking banging
― davey, Sunday, 19 August 2018 12:16 (five years ago) link
He shouts out eva hesse and KoBrA in a song where he also says “fuck tom brady!” You rarely see the battle lines between earnest art kids/adults and conservative jocks drawn so clearly in a song.
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 19 August 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link
It’s all extremely arch and maybe obnoxious but also fun—like they’re giving us our very own 80’s.
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 19 August 2018 13:02 (five years ago) link
At they’r best though this band has amazing lyrics, especially that song pretty machines which i always liked but have come belatedly to really, really like. “But these days I fear my window was just a reflection.”
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 19 August 2018 13:09 (five years ago) link
To me, it feels like the wit & poetry have largely been stripped from his lyrix, and replaced with awkwardly expressed rage (with, yes, some good lines here & there), and oblique sloganeering that doesn’t even have the directness & appeal of good hardcore (although I guess “Fuck Tom Brady!” qualifies).Of course, if I liked the song themselves more (music, melodies), I could probably overlook this...
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
confession... i thought he was saying Fuck Tom Petty
― flopson, Sunday, 19 August 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
lyrics on the new album are so great
― flopson, Sunday, 19 August 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link
yeah lyrics are the best they have been, for both guys really.
total football makes some (mostly superficial) allusions to soccer and the line "swapping parts and roles..." is a specific reference to the title concept in soccer. i'm pretty sure the fuck tom brady line is about football (soccer) vs football (nfl), underscoring which the song is referring to, and probably revealing a personal preference too.
you know, there's a US band from the 90s who also had a thing for soccer...
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 19 August 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link
I don’t think the song’s about soccer at all, it’s about the NFL protests (and related issues, I guess)
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
the line "swapping parts and roles..." is a specific reference to the title concept in soccer.Ok, I see
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link
So it’s using this soccer technique as a metaphor for political action? Collectivism and autonomy / Are not mutually exclusive
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link
yeah it is. the song is about collective action in general, and the nfl protests as part of that. i didn't mean to suggest the nfl wasn't also being referenced.
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link
What U.S. band from the ‘90s are you referring to, Polvo?
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
the other P band, who we're discouraged from mentioning on this thread
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
Pavement?
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link
those would be they
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
I think you can talk about pavement. They’re not a NSBM band last I checked
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link
just having some fun "treeship"
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link
When did Pavement mention soccer? (I know they had football lyrics...)
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link
https://www.google.com/search?q=stephen+malkmus+hull+city&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS801US801&oq=ste&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l2j69i61l2j69i65l2.2011j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
Feel like stephen makmus would be down for a kick around, maybe if he happens to be in a park on a crisp autumn day and others are playing
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 19 August 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link
I thought Pavement was all about betting at the horse track
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 19 August 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link
Weezer are more closely identified w/soccer... maybe Parquet Courts are the new Weezer!https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2008/jun/29/popandrockhttps://consequenceofsound.net/2010/06/weezer-releases-unofficial-u-s-soccer-song-represent/amp/
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Sunday, 19 August 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link
It was those lyrics about "Using" in Freebird 2
― Mark G, Sunday, 19 August 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link
malkmus is def a jock but he’s way more into basketball as I understand
still like the new one a lot, but if the ones i’ve heard, “light up gold” is still their best to my ears
― k3vin k., Sunday, 19 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
new interview with a. savage: https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/bonus-interview-with-parquet-courts-a-savage
― flappy bird, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link
Hahahahahaha
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 20 August 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link