― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:48 (twenty years ago) link
― echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:49 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:55 (twenty years ago) link
I vote for the Delays over Mew, they work better on some undefinable level, though both are quite fine. Fennesz is better than both, though. The Joshua Treble solo album that came out recently is a pretty good if not striking Fennesz-like release which has its moments of haze and gaze.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:59 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:07 (twenty years ago) link
Are they? I have to be honest, I didn't sense that, it just seemed like, well, enjoyable shoegaze, and I definitely don't recall any Pumpkins-like ego-apocalypse. Even Stina Nordenstam singing on tracks didn't spark things up further. The Delays are fairly straightforward perhaps, but they've got a good producer in Graham Sutton and they know how to work in strange noises into their songs, and it was all in all more involving for me, by a hair I guess.
I think Fennesz is doing something that can't be compared to those "bands".
Which is part of the point, by demonstrating how to use haze for alternate purposes -- it's a seemingly obvious equation of gaze plus IDM with ridiculously grand results that tends to trump all the other recent attempts at same -- whereas all the new bands sound like...bands doing shoegaze. Which, as I thought while I listened to some Bethany Curve, isn't always enough anymore.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:13 (twenty years ago) link
"Am I Wry? No""156""Snow Brigade"
There's *way* more going on with the arrangements and textures than anywhere on the Delays album, and the vocals go quite stratospheric at points.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago) link
Really, this is all based on first listens, and the Delays' hooks worked better than Mew's, and that always counts for something. As such, Mew really ultimately strike me as no more or less creative than the Delays, the latter just has a little certain something in the end results more.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link
As for Fennesz, as much as I enjoy his records (and especially several of the tracks on 'Venice'), it just whets my appetite for something that's beautiful on more levels - whether it be a catchy melody, more propulsion, more rhythm etc. The best tracks on 'Venice' sound like 'Loveless' interstitials which is a high compliment, but they're not specifically why I always return to that record. Also, there's a Kevin Shields piece called "2" from his La La Human Steps collaboration which is perhaps his best pure texture track (I've only found a barely acceptable quality .mp3 unfortunately). It gives me that same ecstatic nausea that frankly, no other "shoegaze" artist can do.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago) link
One Delays track I'm thinking of has this bit of Sigur Ros-style 'beautiful' guitar noise, but they then proceed to make a hook out of that instead of floating off into the ether wibbling like Our Boys From Iceland. Really captured my ear, because it's a seemingly simple approach that adds some unexpected depth, and not in the 'oh it is art' sense, just in the 'hey, more going on!' sense.
it just whets my appetite for something that's beautiful on more levels - whether it be a catchy melody, more propulsion, more rhythm etc
Well that's why for me when Sylvian brings in the purring voice everything's all 'oh heavens, THIS is nice.' I hadn't even realized he was on there and I still haven't heard the stuff they did together last year, so it was quite striking how well the two combined.
ecstatic nausea
Mmmm, nausea. Needs to be more of that. Haven't been knocked sideways in a long, long while.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago) link
Yes there is (re: Snowpony), and the second disc is remarkable, being as it's tracks off the album remixed in a drum'n'bass stylee by, er, Moving Shadow's Rob Playford...
As a slight aside, I finally got my mitts on a copy of Lush's Gala compilation! Arrived in the post yesterday. My, is it lovely.
Oh, and as to the shouegazine revival, think I might've mentioned Sennen before, but I've only just found out they have a website. so ner.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 1 April 2004 08:51 (twenty years ago) link
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 1 April 2004 08:52 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 1 April 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago) link
― yo yo yo (cRaiG), Friday, 2 April 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago) link
I mean, it was even called "Sonic Cathedrals" and everything.
Radio Department played. But that wasn't even the highlight of the evening. The Telescopes DJ'd.
― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link
Next thing you know some corny English fuck will talk over some crappy electro beats about SMSing....
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:47 (nineteen years ago) link
What's crazy is I had forgotten just how danceable much of Shoegazing really was! I mean, sure, lots of it was Cathedrals of Sound type prettiness, but the extended dance mixes and the Weatherall mixes and the "rave music with Rickenbachers, right?" stuff...
I guess, post-Manitoba, someone actually realised "YOU KNOW WHAT?!?!? CHAPTERHOUSE REALLY WERE GREAT!!!"
― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 07:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 25 October 2004 08:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:08 (nineteen years ago) link
(And hey surfacenoise - I'll be visiting Melbourne in a couple months, so you'd have five people there... )
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:14 (nineteen years ago) link
I spent the first 20 minutes just staring at the screen, until I realised that it was on a repeating loop. I mean, Lush videos! Ride videos I'd never seen. Slowdive videos. Chapterhouse videos. Did I mention the SONIC BOOM videos? They did a whole Spacemen spin-offs set including even The Darkside.
― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 25 October 2004 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 10:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:18 (nineteen years ago) link
cough, splutter. my mouth is opening and closing but no words are coming out.
― koogs (koogs), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:22 (nineteen years ago) link
I think Pale Saints were one of the most underrated bands of the 90s.
I was in the loo when "Sight Of You" came on, but I was so so so so soooo happy to hear it again.
― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Yes, definitely, very much OTM!
― Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― cw (cww), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link
strawberry wine / mercy seat / how you satisfy me
I nearly exploded with happiness. Oh wait, maybe that was the heat. But still. No heat in the world could have stopped me from dancing to that.
― Kissing Time At The Pleasure Unit (kate), Monday, 25 October 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link
notable only for their cover of Since Yesterday.
― koogs (koogs), Monday, 25 October 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link
also apparently tomorrow is:
We wish My Bloody Valentine's Debbie Googe a very Happy Indie Birthday today!
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 25 October 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
i was there! twice!
ride, curve, slowdive in 1991er, jesus jones in 1992
http://www.mail-archive.com/sinister@majordomo.net/1998-month-07/msg00471.html(check out the 'prev by date' message 8)
― koogs (koogs), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Piers (piers), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link