ILX 70s album poll - results

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only 20 still strikes me as pretty low.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I counted 10 postpunk albs, depends on how you classify of course

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

As much as I think this was a success, there were a lot of key records that weren't even nominated, like Starsailor and Headhunters.

What is the logic for only voting on nominated albums, anyway? Why be so exclusive?

Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

80 rock albums

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I count about 20 punk/postpunk/new wave (which probably comes closer to the flexibility of the definition of "classic rock") records, not even including dubious things like Stooges or Kate Bush.

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Mind you, a good number of those are stuff I've never heard like The Fall and Elvis Costello, in which cases I was going by how rock history books tend to classify them.

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

What is the logic for only voting on nominated albums, anyway? Why be so exclusive?

I think the idea is to prevent having lots of albums that only one or two people have voted for, to make insure that the winners have won by some sort of substantial margin.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

(If you're just counting British doom-rocky postpunk from like 1977-1979, that's a pretty narrow subgenre, isn't it? 8% is pretty great representation then.)

xpost Especially considering how flexible the nomination process was for this poll.

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

151 lou reed 'metal machine music'

A joke taken too far?

Cunga (Cunga), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

What is the logic for only voting on nominated albums, anyway? Why be so exclusive?
I think the idea is to prevent having lots of albums that only one or two people have voted for, to make insure that the winners have won by some sort of substantial margin.

-- RS_LaRue (Al__suca...), April 28th, 2005.

oh, i take back the "I really wish I'd voted", I forgot that the reason I abstain from all these polls is that I think this 'nominations' process is the stupidest bullshit ever.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

3 disco albums - don't talk to me about classic rock getting robbed. plz.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I count about 26 classic rock (as in "gets play on FM classic rock stations") records. But like half of those are Bowie, so maybe that doesn't count. Actually this might be higher if I throw in stuff like Talking Heads.

xposts Fair enough. I think minimalism and free funk and motherfucking FUSION were robbed worst. Those and fucking Who's Next.

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link

(OK, truthfully, I was just happy to see Ornette place at all. You know I'll always still love you, ILM.)

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

o no, you dickpipes missed Dark Side of the Moon! more like I Hate Music, jeez!

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

151 lou reed 'metal machine music'

A joke taken too far?

No, that would be:

15 THE MODERN LOVERS - THE MODERN LOVERS

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I forgot that the reason I abstain from all these polls is that I think this 'nominations' process is the stupidest bullshit ever.

I agree, I'd prefer if there were no nominations and we could vote for whatever we like. In that case, we'd need about 400 more people to vote in order get any sort of consensus so that the list would mean something.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the idea is to prevent having lots of albums that only one or two people have voted for, to make insure that the winners have won by some sort of substantial margin.

I think it'd be better to eliminate the one-offs from the tally at the end instead of excluding them outright from the voting. For instance, you just say up front that "albums with only one vote don't get counted." So if you want to take that risk, that's your choice.

xpost

The poll results wouldn't look that different with open nominations. Look at pitchfork's.

Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah i have to say having seen the whole poll and what didn't make it ornette placing seems like a pleasant miracle (esp. since that's the one that made me think 'fuck, i think i forgot to vote for that!' most.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

HEY YOU GUYS - POST YR 70s BALLOT RIGHT HERES SUPERFUNFUN

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Is someone really considering starting up the next poll already? The results for this one aren't even all posted yet.

billstevejim, Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I only actually have 11 of those. I thought it'd be more. I thus can't be any kind of an authority on the subject but I will say my vote would've gone to Singles Going Steady.

Nick H (Nick H), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Look at pitchfork's.

Exactly -- you can't get much consensus by polling only 20 people, which is why you need to take some of those lists with a grain of salt (they do make up for it somewhat by voting for 100 albums each, rather than the 35 (on average) that we did).

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Is someone really considering starting up the next poll already? The results for this one aren't even all posted yet.

I was thinking of volunteering my servics to do an 80's poll, but I was going to leave it a few weeks. Well, at least until the tracks are out of the way.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 28 April 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

this has been the most drawn-out poll in history.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

didn't nominations start in november or december?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

november at the very latest

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link

it's like chinese democracy.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link

or chinese democracy, if you will. AND YOU WILL.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Mellow out dude, it's the '70s.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.vvinyl.com/toys/musictv/cc/cc.jpg

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I only have 68 of the top 100. I should pick up 2 more so I can make it an even SEVENTY!

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link

We did start nomination in November, after the 90's poll. Then we had the ILX outage, which killed some of the poll's momentum and took some of our nominations with it. Then we ran into end-of-year listmaking, so that's another few weeks gone.

If we do another poll, I think it should be saved for the fall. Give ILM a few poll-free months so that we come back in October ALL HUNGRY FOR SOME POLLING ACTION.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link

seconded!

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Thirded for the fall (summer is slow anyway), but I think we need a Council of the Elders sit-down on the rules. Heretics unite!

Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link

How do we know we'll be alive in 6 whole months!? Eight-ees! Eight-ees! Eight-ees!

And three cheers for HP.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

HOBART HAS DONE WELL

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Where's The Saints?

Abso-fucking-lutely!!!!!!!

Pradaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 April 2005 08:29 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, put off a new poll. the 70s singles poll is yet to be posted. and that should take us through to the end of the May.

gspm (gspm), Friday, 29 April 2005 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Can somebody post the link to the 90s poll? I'd love to see it.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

THE 1990s POLL RESULTS - THE ALBUMS

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

(You were helped by a librarian today!)

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks so much. I've never heard the majority of those albums, but it's still cool to see the results. Where the hell was Built To Spill? And no Lonesome Crowded West, Being There or Wowee Zowee? And I'm not their biggest fan, but you'd think Spiderland would make it in there somehwere. Geez Louise!

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 29 April 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

This has been bothering me so....700! Entertaining list, thanks Hobart.

jmeister (jmeister), Saturday, 30 April 2005 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi, sorry I haven't started the singles poll yet, and I agree that this has been drawn out. I'll explain that, and then stop being so defensive - when I started this, back in November, I had quite a lot more free time than I do now. The power outage put things back quite a bit, and we lost a lot of nominations. I don't think ILM was quite back to normal until mid-Jan, was it? (I might be wrong there). The idea was to be counting votes through December, and putting up the poll in January - I'd planned it so that I had a clear patch from coursework (I'm a student, second time around, working part-time, commuting and basically drowning in work right now - although you don't want to hear my woes) in which to finish this off.

But it didn't happen like that.. Giving a month to finish nominations, and another month to vote put things back longer, and then it did take me a while to count votes. There are good reasons for that, that I'm not going to go into here. Some things happened earlier this year that caused me a few problems, and made me want to hide away from the world for a bit. Including the internet.

Anyway, that, together with coursework, exams, you name it...meant it all got put off until last week. May not being a particularly quiet time at University, they took longer to post because they had to be slotted in between staying up all night writing bollocks that is of no interest to anyone essays. Which is the reason for the delay in the singles poll too...

Anyway, I didn't post this as a whinge, but as an explanation. I can start putting the singles poll up on friday, but there will be a big gap in the middle, as next week is going to be one of those drinking far too much caffeine, avoiding sleep if possible and trying to cram work that would normally take about a month into one week type of weeks.

Or it can go up the weekend after next when it all ENDS! Temporarily.

It ended up as a whinge, anyway, didn't it?

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Nominations...

Well, I tried to make them a bit more open for this poll - and there was some criticism of that in the initial thread - some people thought there should only be two nominations for each category as in previous polls.

Its a lovely idea not to have to nominate at all, there were so many things I discovered I'd missed out. Or perhaps to have an unlimited number of nominations - to give people a list to think about, even if hey don't have to stick to it (I know there are things I'd miss if they weren't on that list). Just one problem - it would be a huge list and complete fucking nightmare to add up. I wonder if Steve (I think it was Steve who started the whole thing) wisely chose two nomiations for each so he could attempt to keep track of the poll.

If anyone was brave enough to try it with no nomiations, that would certainly make it interesting. You might wish you hadn't, though.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the noms. The number of albums I'd have forgotten to include!

Oh, any news on the album poll with my vote included? If too busy, that's cool no worries.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I wonder if Steve (I think it was Steve who started the whole thing) wisely chose two nomiations for each so he could attempt to keep track of the poll.

The whole thing being the 00s poll or the 90s poll or whichever one prompted the current round of polls.


hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

x-post...yes, Mark, that shouldn't take very long - I meant to do it earlier and I'll get onto it..

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

No problem HP. I think that the song list is antipated more by most of us, so the wait just builds the excitement even more. I don't mind. I really appreciate the work you've done. (btw, the album poll was great!)

peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link


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