Yeah I'm definitely a hoarder.
― Colonel Poo
i'm paranoid, a hoarder, and a product of my generation. i started digital music with napster and have a mentality to match. i'm still prepping for the digital apocalypse... coming any day now, yep, any day now... they'll get my gianni safred mp3s when they pry them from my cold dead fingers.
the plus side is that man being a digital hoarder is so much easier and less damaging than being one of the people they put on tv who fill their house with yellowed old newspapers.
sent out my ipod classic to be refurbed with a 512 gb ssd. hopefully i get it back!
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 June 2017 00:30 (six years ago) link
A few weeks ago I bought a Dragonfly DAC and it substantially improved the sound quality from my headphone jack to the receiver/speakers. Highly recommended.
― skip
i'm kind of looking for audio quality improvement if/when my ipod refurb finishes... since you use two of them, do you know if there's any dac stuff for them? the stuff on the dragonfly site looked to be usb...
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 June 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link
This, so much!
Sorry, I haven't used the Dragonfly for the iPod, just my computer.
― skip, Sunday, 11 June 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link
Being a digital hoarder is a lovely thing, and I have no regrets.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 June 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link
otm
― sleeve, Sunday, 11 June 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
thank u MP3 blogs
Totally report back how this goes. I think about doing it constantly
(I want the 1TB option though lol)
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 11 June 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link
Yes, let us know if it works out, where you got it, how much, etc.
― skip, Sunday, 11 June 2017 03:09 (six years ago) link
I'm also hoarding a sealed, boxed 160 GB Classic. I could probably get $$ for that on eBay.
― skip, Sunday, 11 June 2017 03:10 (six years ago) link
I just carry my 2nd (old) laptop and a backup 3 TB hard drive to all my radio shows and DJ gigs, so easy to go back and forth w/ a turntable and a few crates of records on a 2-channel mixer if I'm live, or queue in VLC if I'm on the radio where I don't usually bring vinyl
for mobile listening I use a Cowon that can play most audio files
btw, germane to this thread:
http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2017/05/11/527829909/the-mp3-is-officially-dead-according-to-its-creators
― sleeve, Sunday, 11 June 2017 03:22 (six years ago) link
I don't believe that "mp3 is dead" story. The company with the patent has said that it will stop issuing licences. But that's because the patent has expired and they no longer have a right to, rather than because the format is dead. Yeah, he pointed out that aac is technically better (and he may have a vested interest there) but lots of devices just won't play aac.
Mp3 won't go away for a long time.
― koogs, Sunday, 11 June 2017 04:05 (six years ago) link
sent out my ipod classic to be refurbed with a 512 gb ssd. hopefully i get it back!Totally report back how this goes. I think about doing it constantly(I want the 1TB option though lol)― or at night (Jon not Jon), Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:17 PM (four hours ago)
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:17 PM (four hours ago)
I wasn't aware that this was even possible! How exciting! I feel like the iPod might have been the last useful product Apple made
― sarahell, Sunday, 11 June 2017 06:22 (six years ago) link
AAC is better only at low bitrates so eh
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Sunday, 11 June 2017 07:11 (six years ago) link
here is where i point out once again that apple views music downloads as "legacy"
there is probably, though i don't know this, a set of benchmarks beyond which they will shutter the itunes store, and cannot wait to do it
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 June 2017 07:52 (six years ago) link
koogs otm
"mp3 is dead" = patents expired this year so we can't force anyone to pay us for it any longer, try this other encumbered format instead, it's so much better, honest!
Vorbis and musepack have been around for over a decade and are also "better" than mp3 yet no one was in a rush to dump the latter for those.
at high bitrates all good lossy codecs are transparent, under 128kbps mp3 is still good but beaten by opus and aac.
― chihuahuau, Sunday, 11 June 2017 11:32 (six years ago) link
what codec does spotify use?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:26 (six years ago) link
https://support.spotify.com/uk/using_spotify/search_play/what-bitrate-does-spotify-use-for-streaming/
This (pleasantly) surprises me (ogg!)
― koogs, Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:40 (six years ago) link
(web player may be different, in 2013 anyway)
(BBC uses aac for radio. Sometimes flac for radio 3)
― koogs, Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:44 (six years ago) link
This thread convinces me to stick to CDs when they're available. All this shit sounds way too complicated.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 11 June 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link
It really isn't an either/or. I buy CDs when available and easily maintain a large digital library. I enjoy the curation aspect and putting something new into the library is a snap at this point. I'm prepared for the streaming apocalypse though there's too much money for it to really happen.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 11 June 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
easily maintain a large digital library.
O RLY
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link
I do buy mp3 albums but very rarely
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, June 11, 2017 5:46 AM (six hours ago)
For years I agreed with you. Now I'm looking at how much physical space they take up (and the records ... *sigh*) and digital is way more appealing.
― sarahell, Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link
I don't buy vinyl but I am considering those space saving sleeves someone highlighted on this or some other thread
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
I thought I was a hoarder but getting uneasy about approaching 60GB means I probably don't qualify
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
to be fair, 60 gb is by any reasonable standard is a lot for mp3s. it's just that some of us are just completely insane hoarders and it's only moore's law that lets us get away with it. (wait, do i really have 700 gb of videos i downloaded from youtube since last October to back up? including 7 gigs of nothing but tv station logos? i am insane.)
― Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 June 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link
it's only moore's law that lets us get away with it.
And I am content.
I buy them all the time, but strictly speaking I am buying from Bandcamp, where I can get them in any digital format I choose. So I go for 320 kbps and forget about it.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 June 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Sunday, June 11, 2017 12:48 PM (five hours ago)
I think an acquisition rate is also something important to consider as whether one "qualifies" -- I mean, is that 60GB over a 10 year period? Including ripped CDs acquired over a 20 year period? Including ripped CDs and digitized records acquired over a 30 year period?
― sarahell, Monday, 12 June 2017 01:33 (six years ago) link
My lifetime collection ripped to lossless is about 730GB for 35k tracks. Mind you I had about 3000 CDs before I started ripping. I'd estimate I have bought ... 30 albums? in digital form and about 20% of the collection is MP3 (live recordings etc).
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 12 June 2017 03:44 (six years ago) link
I started this thread.
As of right now, I own one record -- the new Paramore one. On CD.
I am now on Apple Music. I own some stuff I’ve purchased via iTunes too.
― the ghost of markers, Monday, 12 June 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link
Might be buying The Wilco Book sometime, which comes with a CD.
I anticipate the Paramore CD will not be the last CD I buy in any case, but I have no plans to return to buying a lot of physical music.
― the ghost of markers, Monday, 12 June 2017 04:09 (six years ago) link
Also no plans to start up a big digital music collection. lol. Apple Music, baby.
― the ghost of markers, Monday, 12 June 2017 04:10 (six years ago) link
All that being said, I understand that people have different desires for their music, and that’s fine. Luckily, we have options.
options are great. Love me some options.
― sarahell, Monday, 12 June 2017 04:15 (six years ago) link
$59 for a 1TB external drive that can hold all the music I've ever owned - can't see the need for cloud streaming. But for some, buy once own everywhere makes perfect sense.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 12 June 2017 04:17 (six years ago) link
Stuff on my wishlist that is only available or affordable on digital: some Art Zoyd/Zaboitzeff, some Foetus albums, some Jarboe albums, some Trance To The Sun albums, a Fauns album, most Silvania albums, most Jute Gyte and a bunch of dungeon synth (which is mostly on cassette as their only physical media).There's probably going to be a lot more.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 12 June 2017 12:33 (six years ago) link
at least 10 years at this point, yeah
although the speed of growth is limited, in practice, by how many CDs I can afford to buy, and since I made the brilliant decision to be broke constantly, that speed is necessarily slow (I don't really like downloading something where I don't own a physical copy, unless it's the only option)
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 12 June 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link
I've only got about 1,000 cds - not trivial, but certainly not ridiculous - and I'm looking at moving them across country in a couple of weeks and it really bums me out. It's been at least five or six years since I've actually listened to any of them, they're all digitized and backed up, but I can't really bring myself to throw them away and selling them seems daunting and not worth the effort.
I did finally get around to buying plastic sleeves to replace all the jewel cases; for a while this looked like it would run $500 to buy jewel sleeves, but I found a pack of 1,000 cheaper ones for $130. Now I just need to spend a couple of hours repackaging all of them. And I'll probably never unpack the boxes at the other end of the move.
― joygoat, Monday, 12 June 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link
feel kinda sad for those cds
― niels, Monday, 12 June 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link
Now I just need to spend a couple of hours repackaging all of them. And I'll probably never unpack the boxes
oh man, I'm doing this now too -- not moving, just "decluttering" -- but I never digitized most of them, so, I am doing that at the same time. I'm doing binders for the ones in jewel cases, and putting the ones with alternative packaging in storage boxes.
― sarahell, Monday, 12 June 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
i long sinced binderized everything of mine except my operas (because of their libretto booklets) and film scores (because they're the only CDs I own with any resale value)
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 12 June 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link
I had to put a couple hundred in the basement, still sticking with jewel cases for now. It's nice having a large house in a cheap market.
I should probably go through them in a cull, and try to get whatever meager store credit still applies, but I have the room so maybe I'll just wait for the mythical CD value/nostalgia spike that's sure to happen any decade now
― sleeve, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
maybe I'll just wait for the mythical CD value/nostalgia spike that's sure to happen any decade now
hahahah - i think the same thing!
― sarahell, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:04 (six years ago) link
The Death of the CD Binder
― the ghost of markers, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
I would not store my CDs in binders if I had enough CDs to store in a binder.
― the ghost of markers, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
agreed
― sleeve, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2010/05/ode-to-a-fallen-bro-of-a-product-the-cd-binder.html
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― sarahell, Monday, 12 June 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
I moved overseas three years ago and we sold everything we'd had stateside, including all 3000 cds or so. We just went with an auction house and I have no idea how much we got and I never want to know. I'd ripped them all so the music never stops but it was a stark moment.
― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 12 June 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
nothing more 2002 than a CD binder full of CD-Rs
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 12 June 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link