audio only
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmJ8ATggl5c
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 04:47 (seven years ago) link
in fairness i thought maybe i hated it for a few years there but then i listened to it and i was wrong
^^^ this. it's an impossibly sad, beautiful song about depression. I sang it to my daughter as she went off to sleep the other night (she's too young to really grok the words, thankfully) and the "no one sings like you anymore" line hit me like a brick wall
― pickety third (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 09:35 (seven years ago) link
I'm not sure what I think of BHS these days. There's maybe a similar problem with it as with Cornell's other flirtation with a Lennonesque melodic sensibility, Blow Up the Outside World, which I used to think was amazing, but now sounds rather gratingly portentous and cheesy.
― Freedom, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:21 (seven years ago) link
By contrast, some of the more understated stuff on DOTUS, I think, still stands up really well. "Switch Opens" may be another case for arguing that Ben Shepherd was SG's most beguilingly idiosyncratic songwriter (also comes to mind is the melodic and rhythmic wonkiness in the chorus of "Somewhere", or the way an otherwise fairly standard, punk-metal song like "Face Pollution" is totally made by the unhinged instrumental section near the end.)
― Freedom, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:34 (seven years ago) link
I think I may have mentioned it upthread, but I was watching some BMF-era live footage on Youtube a while back and Ben Shepherd is a deranged motherfucker, leaping and staggering around the stage and not missing a note but looking like he's scarcely paying attention to anything that he's doing. Thrilling stuff.
― pickety third (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:50 (seven years ago) link
This one is p great imo.
― Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 11:23 (seven years ago) link
There's an interview from those days in Bass Player magazine with Shepard and the interviewer talking completely past each other, where Ben talks about wanting to crawl under the stage and set off low-frequency bombs from there.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 11:41 (seven years ago) link
Revisiting King Animal for the first time since it came out. There's a hoarseness in Cornell's voice on "Been Away Too Long" that makes him sound like Sammy Hagar. That was my impression of the album at the time - that it sounded more like Chickenfoot than Soundgarden. We'll see.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:18 (seven years ago) link
'I'm looking California and feeling Minnesota' is the rare lyric about depression that's both hilarious and heartbreaking. I forget because the riffs are all-encompassing on most listens, but really it was the lyrics on Badmotorfinger that sealed the deal for me.
― pavane to the darryl of strawberry (bendy), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:29 (seven years ago) link
living colour's blow up the outside world cover was great, was cool to see a tribute by a band that actually had the chops and singing ability to cover soundgarden and do them justice
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:31 (seven years ago) link
also unperson jesus christ chickenfoot have a little decency
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:32 (seven years ago) link
Bones Of Birds is wonderful
― pickety third (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 12:49 (seven years ago) link
otm
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link
Anyone ever listen to that Hater album?
― Heez, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link
After making it all the way through King Animal, my impression from five years ago (!) was reinforced. All the songs were decent riff-rock, but when it was over I couldn't remember how a single one of them went. If I was on a game show and the challenge was, "Hum one song from Soundgarden's King Animal for $10,000," I would be going home empty-handed.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:26 (seven years ago) link
i guess that's cool but the playing on that record is wonderful and the songs are all real growers
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:27 (seven years ago) link
"bones of birds" and "halfway there" are up there with any of cornell's great hooks
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:28 (seven years ago) link
and "eyelid's mouth" is maybe the most matt cameron matt cameron song ever, title on down
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:29 (seven years ago) link
I remember liking it but then not going back to it very often
― pickety third (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 15:30 (seven years ago) link
Wellwater Conspiracy has some jams.
― yodarman, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link
The first Hater album was reissued last summer, it's quite good. They made a second one years later but I've never heard it.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I really liked the first one
― Heez, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
i liked it alright at the time, but i have no idea if it's aged well or not.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link
matt cameron is a good guy who writes great songs
― pickety third (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link
he also warbled "puberty love" in attack of the killer tomatoes…
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link
yes! <3
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link
i'm listening to higher truth for the first time and it's a lovely record, way way wayyyy better than carry on, idk why i didn't give it a shot when it came out
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:26 (seven years ago) link
probably because you heard Carry On
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:51 (seven years ago) link
j/k tho. I kinda wanna listen to his other solo albs now, I ignored them because I hated Carry On so much but now is the time to get acquainted.
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:52 (seven years ago) link
"Follow My Way" is still my fav solo joint of his....starts out so Zeppelin-y
carry on is p bad beyond "you know my name" and "arms around your love" and i have no idea why except that maybe audioslave briefly ruined his songwriting
"follow my way" is such a jam
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 14:53 (seven years ago) link
I hated Audioslave but man he he get mileage out of that material with his performances
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 15:23 (seven years ago) link
i just revisited a few audioslave singles. "be yourself" is a great song. the more aggro audioslave tracks are dogshit imo
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 15:50 (seven years ago) link
now i'm onto scream, which 1) lol 2) but i think this song is a jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A9lcO2xeMQ
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link
brad, it's bad. I've wanted to defend scream so bad but in the end, it's just not possible.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:49 (seven years ago) link
lmao i love it while recognizing it is bad
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link
dang that's bad
i do feel like cornell might have been in store for an increasingly interesting solo career as he aged, cf Robert Plant.
― nomar, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
i was hoping Scream would be nothing but covers of the Michael Jackson song when it came out
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
Down On The Upside is better than I remembered. It's still too long, but that's a quibble. I had forgotten songs like Zero Chance and Tighter and Tighter.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:57 (seven years ago) link
Down on the Upside is notable for being the Soundgarden record that Ben Shepherd had the largest hand in, writing-wise. Thayil contributed 'Never The Machine Forever' (a standout track, IMO) but much less compared to what he'd done before.
What I always liked about this band is that all the band members wrote songs and contributed riffs and ideas, even Matt Cameron who came up with some great stuff.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link
you can really hear cameron's melodic sensibility and odd Soundgarden-ish chord changes in his songs for Pearl Jam
― pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 25 May 2017 23:09 (seven years ago) link
Cameron has "Mailman", "Fresh Tendrils", "Applebite" and "Room a Thousand Years Wide" to his credit, so fair fennel seeds to him. And your comments have aroused in me something I'd have never expected: interest in 00s PJ.
― Freedom, Friday, 26 May 2017 07:38 (seven years ago) link
His stuff on Binaural is partic strong
― pickety third (stevie), Friday, 26 May 2017 09:36 (seven years ago) link
"Green Disease" off the mostly ignorable Riot Act is great
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 26 May 2017 11:21 (seven years ago) link
I didn't realize 'Room a Thousand Years Wide' was Cameron... it's about my favorite Soundgarden song most days.
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 26 May 2017 14:39 (seven years ago) link
It's a Thayil lyric, but Cameron wrote the music.
― Freedom, Friday, 26 May 2017 19:36 (seven years ago) link
They should have done more songs with sax on them.
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 26 May 2017 21:24 (seven years ago) link
or songs about improbably large rooms
― BalĂ°y Daudrs (contenderizer), Friday, 26 May 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link
goddamn what a good song
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 26 May 2017 21:55 (seven years ago) link
I saw some pics from the memorial & fell apart again. But it did lead me to find a full recording of his Albert Hall show from last year. He sounds so fucking good
https://youtu.be/z6qUbq6JzFo
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 May 2017 06:14 (seven years ago) link