Tipsy, I'm not talking about the amount of rhythm -- I'm talking about how she keeps the rhythms kidna frequency-attenuated and non-physical, and it takes several songs before a low-end electro bassline makes them whole and physical. They're very much beats, they're just used, placed, and produced in a way that's different from the vast majority of beat-based music.
― nabisco, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
a lot of the rhythms are clipped and harsh, and i know what you mean about how "bamboo banger" seems kind of untethered until the bottom end finally kicks in. a lot of the beats have a clattery, front-of-the-speaker presence. i don't think it's not physical, though. not bass-centric, maybe. but i think it's beat-centric, i.e. very much organized around the beats.
― tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link
(i mean when you talk about bedroom beats i think like idm or something, which whatever kala is it's not idm.)
― tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link
why does only garbage like this merit in-depth drum sound discussion instead of fuckin mel-man or khao or somebody
― and what, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link
we can talk about mel-man or khao or mannie fresh or anyone you want. i wish there was more talk about beats n drums all over ilm.
― tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link
i find the beats lack that physicality in the same way beats from someone like the bug do. they lack a certain sense of groove.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah it's not really a groove record. they have that kind of post-punk staccato. (explaining both the slits vibe and the wrongness of thinking about it in terms of hip-hop sources.)
― tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
and what: personally i only like drums when they are wielded by foxy "bitches" from the orient! hubba hubba!
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
n*gga pleeze, she only get away with it cuz of 77 overdubbs
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
she can "overdubb" me anytime! woo-hoo!
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link
super roots 12
― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, August 29, 2007 8:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
cibula otm
― and what, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link
ban and what
― blueski, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
wait ethan do you love her or do you hate her or what
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
so confused
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
M.I.A.'s Bird Flu was released November 23, 2006, and on her myspace before that. Can anyone make out a copyright date on this?:
http://www.hardtofindrecordsrecordstore.com/htfrimages/BMR224197.jpg
― energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link
2,300 B.C.
― max, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link
M.I.A. arrives at No. 18 with her sophomore album, "Kala," which moved 29,000 units.
CONGRATULATIONS, BLOGGERS!! YOU REALLY DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2415327/2/istockphoto_2415327_celebration_toast_with_champagne.jpg
― gershy, Thursday, 30 August 2007 02:32 (sixteen years ago) link
can anyone on $1$k hook an ilxor up? i'm 'poortheatre'
― poortheatre, Thursday, 30 August 2007 03:54 (sixteen years ago) link
guess ethan pwned "this bitch"!
― energy flash gordon, Thursday, 30 August 2007 10:32 (sixteen years ago) link
whoa. i got it.
my mind = blown
― poortheatre, Thursday, 30 August 2007 11:15 (sixteen years ago) link
why the fuck is everybody so angry kenan about me saying mia makes shitty music but is still fuckable?? lotta bag-over-the-head rappers make tight music & lotta cuties make shitty music, big fuckin deal -- musically
http://us.ent1.yimg.com/images.launch.yahoo.com/000/004/503/4503650.jpghttp://www.dopebeatz.co.uk/acatalog/lachat-murder.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ed/Anuthatantrum.jpg/200px-Anuthatantrum.jpg >>>>>>>>>>
― and what, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link
http://images.music.com/images/dmc/release/diva/2/images/bio.jpg >>>> http://www.colly.com/images/uploads/mia.jpg
― and what, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link
why don't you like the music?
― blueski, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link
i just pasted 4 pics of rappers i like
― and what, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link
i thought you were saying ms melodie was hotter than mia
― blueski, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:37 (sixteen years ago) link
call her a bitch again, ethan, let it out
― da croupier, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:40 (sixteen years ago) link
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:zqRSn9CYyD2HnM:http://www.poster.net/durst-fred/durst-fred-photo-xl-fred-durst-6226881.jpg
― and what, Thursday, 30 August 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Attention anyone who can actually be bothered to have that argument, the correct line of attack is not "ooh you are being misogynistic" but "ooh you are being like one of those lame dudes who posts on Cat Power threads".
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link
holy shit why do i keep clicking this thread
-- and what, Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link
"ooh you are awful"
― blueski, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Ban women
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
where do you stand on men in drag?
― blueski, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link
MIA = The IT Crowd Snap = Flight Of The Concords
― blueski, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Emergency Kala Ward 10?
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link
The Gucci Mane vs MIA thing is kind of irrelevant as there was already a bird flu dance craze in the Ivory Coast beforehand.
por ejemplo
― The Reverend, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link
there goes my hope of this being my byron crawford/kanye west moment
― and what, Thursday, 30 August 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I have it now. On first listen, brilliant beginning but maybe trails off. However, I will revise these opinions in due course.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 30 August 2007 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link
The beginning tracks are great to listen to while walking around.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 31 August 2007 10:22 (sixteen years ago) link
its a great ipod album.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 31 August 2007 10:37 (sixteen years ago) link
i've listened to it several times now..
the best tracks for me are 'the turn,' 'paper planes,' and '$20,' and 'mango pickle' is really growing on me. at first it seemed like the obvious weak link of the album (kids rapping?), which is now a toss-up between 'hussel' and 'come around,' which is a shame because the production on both are adequate. timbaland and, um, afrikan boy are drags, though. i like the first four tracks, but the side 2 is what makes the album special. she's the only artist whose inclusion of politics in a song i find genuine and even engaging (and lil' wayne on 'georgia bush').
anyway, huge contender for album of the year for me.
― poortheatre, Friday, 31 August 2007 10:48 (sixteen years ago) link
also, those didgeridoo samples in the beat on 'birdflu' sound like the noise a boss makes in Link to the Past when you hit a boss.
― poortheatre, Friday, 31 August 2007 10:50 (sixteen years ago) link
"The Turn" is fucking massive. I'm still not convinced by "$20", though.
I really really like most of this album but it could have been boiled down to just "Bamboo Banger", "Hussel" and "The Turn" and I would have been happy (maybe "XR2" as a bonus track).
― HI DERE, Saturday, 1 September 2007 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Sjam_ygv69Y
― naus, Saturday, 1 September 2007 03:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Also: I really can't stand the way the kick drum completely mutes out the bassline on 20 Dollar. Sidechain compression at it's worst!
― naus, Saturday, 1 September 2007 03:14 (sixteen years ago) link
yeh that's something really off about that muffled bass, it's a shame.
― blueski, Saturday, 1 September 2007 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link
man i would beat that shit up-- she talks real nasty, but not like a flipper. TS, smash-off edition: maya vs uffie. i would get them dyking while my russian wing was making a snuff video of ed danger & diplo.
― luriqua, Saturday, 1 September 2007 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^ saying what we're all thinking
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 1 September 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link
never ban luriqua
― and what, Saturday, 1 September 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Somewhat inchoate thoughts after listening to this for the first couple of times:
The thing that impresses me most at first is how jam-packed with musical/extra-musical ideas it is in comparison with Arular. It seems strange that no one has yet mentioned how similar to Kish Kash this album is in certain ways, i.e. it doesn't seem to be quite as densely mixed, but has that same *something always catching you off-guard* feel to it, I guess. Unlike Arular,Kala feels like a kind of a disorienting listen at first; there seems to be something new/weird/different popping out and making you think WTF(?) every so often (except on "Jimmy", I suppose--which seems to be the most obviously conventional track here, and a great choice for a cross-over[?] single). Nonetheless, even though there's a hell of a lot to digest on first hearing, I have no doubt that this will end up being one of my top five records of the year. Happy, happy! Joy, joy!
― JN$OT, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link