Buckingham's recent solo output has been so damn wonderful. I only hope the Christine pushes him into weirder territory instead of restraining him ala Say You Will with Stevie.
― DavidLeeRoth, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link
His tracks on Say You Will are every bit as weird as his recent solo albums, for obvious reasons.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link
I still think this should be a Fleetwood Mac LP.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link
xparen't Mick and John the rhythm section on this too? it's basically FM minus Nicks
― Dominique, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link
yep
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link
lol owned
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link
Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, and Nicks.
should've called it Perfect Buckingham
― tylerw, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link
Yes featuring Jon Anderson, Trevor Rabin, Rick Wakeman & Stevie Nicks.
(xp)
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link
Honestly, I think it's bullshit that this isn't going out under the name Fleetwood Mac. Mick and John own the name, so if this isn't Fleetwood Mac then Say You Will sure the fuck isn't, if the same logic is applied.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link
god who gives a shit
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 19:06 (seven years ago) link
psyched for this record
lmao at the cover art
for symmetry's sake, she should've held a keytar imo
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 19:08 (seven years ago) link
I'm psyched for this record too, although it's probably bound to get less people checking it out and less press exposure generally since it doesn't have the Fleetwood Mac name on it. Which it should have.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 19:16 (seven years ago) link
I suppose the Stevie Nicks Fanclub think it's a good idea, though.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link
they can call it whatever they want, you jackoffs!!!@#!@$
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link
my total indifference to whatever this is called is non-partisan
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link
The Kurt Schwitterz Experience, Featuring Most of Fleetwood Mac
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link
meatwood flack
― akm, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 21:29 (seven years ago) link
BuckVie
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 21:32 (seven years ago) link
Where's Stevie?!?!?!?!
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 21:38 (seven years ago) link
Buck and Perfect worked on these songs together. Then they got the ol' rhythm section to record them. Stevie wasn't involved in the writing.
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link
Dinosuar rockers making a buckGod just retire
― calstars, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link
Thanks, bro.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link
I wonder if Mick and John will be performing on the tour? If so, I'm buying a ticket
$125 for "rear orchestra" seats, before service charges and taxes? This album better be good
― Wimmels, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 23:28 (seven years ago) link
1. Sleeping Around the Corner, Stevie?2. (How I Really)Feel About You, Stevie3. In My World, There's No Stevie4. Red Sun (That's What We Call Stevie)5. Love is Here To Stay Now That Stevie Is Gone6. Too Far Gone To Care About Stevie7. Lay Down For Free, Free From Stevie8. Game of Pretend That Stevie Doesn't Exist9. On With the Show, Without Stevie10. Carnival Begin, Stevie End
― salthigh, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 23:52 (seven years ago) link
For that price it better be Rumors part II
― calstars, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 23:55 (seven years ago) link
Where does Lindsey end and Stevie begin
i paid more than that for actual Mac last year or the year before.
― akm, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 01:33 (seven years ago) link
in a huge stadium
Mac without cheese.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 06:52 (seven years ago) link
The cover looks like one page from a FMac tour programme, other pages have Mick with Stevie, etc.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 06:55 (seven years ago) link
John stands alone, and by "alone" I mean with a lager.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 07:53 (seven years ago) link
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51NYX6WjNcL.jpg
― cpl593H, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 14:19 (seven years ago) link
Mac without cheese.― Mark G, Wednesday, April 12, 2017 6:52 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mark G, Wednesday, April 12, 2017 6:52 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Heh, well that's certainly one way of looking at it!
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 14:32 (seven years ago) link
oh man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwBy3TvzPEU
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 April 2017 03:07 (seven years ago) link
holy shit this is fucking awesome, they need to change the cover immediately
― flappy bird, Saturday, 15 April 2017 03:29 (seven years ago) link
Very nice. Very LB, but I can hear how CM tempers his approach.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 April 2017 04:19 (seven years ago) link
yeah, diggin' this, hope the single's an indication of things to come rather than an outlier
― Wimmels, Saturday, 15 April 2017 13:20 (seven years ago) link
I like how it has the same beat as Trouble
― flappy bird, Saturday, 15 April 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
Law & Order: LBCMV
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 15 April 2017 18:28 (seven years ago) link
The album sleeve looks really naff, definitely. It looks like it was knocked up in a couple of hours by a record label art department in 1988.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Saturday, 15 April 2017 18:35 (seven years ago) link
does it matter whether two musicians whose collecive age is over 140 years approved a naff sleeve?
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 April 2017 18:59 (seven years ago) link
Maybe if they expect anyone under the age of 70 to pick it up and give it a listen?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 April 2017 19:20 (seven years ago) link
those listeners will likely stream it
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 April 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link
Or would, if they hadn't wussed out from calling it a Fleetwood Mac record. They must be seriously expectng to make a lot of money on this forthcoming "final" tour.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Saturday, 15 April 2017 19:46 (seven years ago) link
why didn't they call it a fleetwood mac record
why
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 April 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link
Well, it's clear to me that the rest of the band wanted to make a record but Stevie didn't. Stevie is going to be joining the band for a potentially lucrative tour and obviously they don't want to fuck that up, so in order to prevent hurt feelings and to ensure said lucrative tour goes ahead as planned they wussed out from calling this a Fleetwood Mac record/were forced to put this out as something other than a Fleetwood Mac record, thus denying the record the audience it could have had if it were actually being released as what it is.
Personally, I would have released this as a Fleetwood Mac record and stuck a sheep adorned with a Madonna mic onstage.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Saturday, 15 April 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link
Nicks has also said it costs too much fucking money to record an album in 2017, which is a strange remark considering they got several home studios and produce themselves.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 April 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link
Christine sounds like she'd be an acerbic joy after a glass of wine.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link
The production makes them sound like the younger bands who are inspired by them. The three new songs on Spotify sound like a Captured Tracks band's new EP!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link
oh: http://www.npr.org/2017/06/01/530271657/first-listen-lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie
― akm, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link
damn they all sound fantastic
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, June 1, 2017 5:57 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:55 (seven years ago) link
Kinda weird that this thread went dead when the album was actually, you know, released.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 11:38 (six years ago) link
yeah :(
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link
I'm listening to it as I type.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 11:47 (six years ago) link
I'm not as high on it as Brad but about half of it consists of keepers. McVie sounds magnificent on "Carnival Begin."
This was a bit anticlimactic for me -- my favorite song is still Christine's "Feel About You". I'd agree w/the above that about half of it I'd want to hear again, but that's not exactly my description of a great record.
― Dominique, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:16 (six years ago) link
quality of this feels v even to me, don't know what to tell y'all
shouts out to "sleeping around the corner" for kinda sounding like prefab sprout at first, thereby closing a loop
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link
Keepers: Sleeping Around the Corner, Red Sun, On with the Show, Carnival Begin, Love is Here to Stay, Game of Pretend. Well, I guess that's more than half the album.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link
i think "too far gone" is maybe the only misstep but that's only bc i haven't decided how i feel conceptually about "'world turning' but less good"
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link
that's one where the production is too spare to do it justice; the track sounds cramped.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link
I by and large like this, but they sound like hi-fi home demos. Which can be cool! But not always here, imo.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
In My World is my favorite, still. Feel About You is a bit cloying?
― akm, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
this is adorable (ragged voices notwithstanding):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rqLQ05AVNo
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:32 (six years ago) link
Gonna have to take some sedatives before I can bear watching that.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
buckingham unable to stop making his guitar face even while playing ukulele
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
Can imagine that's not that far off from Tusk sessions. Where's ?uest?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
Feel About You is cute, but in such an old fashioned, sunshine pop kind of way, that I can't help but like it. These days, I am taken off guard when I hear a I vi IV V progression.
― Dominique, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
Sounds more like a Lindsey record with some songs featuring Christine McVie who, sadly, is not in great shape, delivering mostly weak, clumsy, schmaltzy songs ('Too Far Gone' being the exception) and unimpressive vocals lacking the beautiful tone and strong presence of her earlier work
while the modern efx (including mild autotune) work fine with Lindsey's more aggressive style, the production does not serve her well
'Sleeping Around the Corner' and 'In My World' are really good songs though
― niels, Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link
oh I love "Carnival Begins"!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link
that's a song that somewhat succeeds in establishing an interesting sonic environment but ultimately I don't find the narrative captivating
I don't mean to be negative, I'm just slightly disappointed bcz I love Christine McVie
― niels, Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
anyone catching them on the tour?
― kurt schwitterz, Saturday, 24 June 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
haha, this first track uses a "motown" drum loop that's packaged with logic pro (and probably some others, but i recognize that one bc i've used it before). its also at the beginning of a tame impala song.
― nice cage (m bison), Sunday, 25 June 2017 04:07 (six years ago) link
It's a good record, it's great to have Fleetwood Mac back.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Sunday, 25 June 2017 08:57 (six years ago) link
yeah did you see rage against the machine are also on tour
― niels, Sunday, 25 June 2017 10:00 (six years ago) link
saw them at the greek theatre in la tonight. buckingham is such a dominating stage presence that it felt more like a buckingham show with mcvie helping out than a buckingham mcvie show. also, her voice was not in a good place. she sounded like she was struggling all night. a little sad. it was still really nice to hear her give "wish you were here" a go. he talks too much and is boring and plays "never going back again" as a frighteningly slow dirge. the backing band (two guitarists who are longtime buckingham/mac regulars and a rhythm section who are not mick and john) came out after four songs and breathed some life onto the stage. "sleeping around the corner" from the new album was great in a way that made me wish they had totally fleetwood mac'd it up in the studio. that was my highlight of the night, along with a fully credible and fun go at "tusk." the set was about half fleetwood mac, half buckingham/mcvie, and two buckingham solo tunes thrown in. they ended quietly, with mcvie on piano singing a good ballad from the new album called "game of pretend," which she introduced by saying "this is not 'songbird,'" which was either a joke or an apology, i couldn't tell. glad i went. not sure what i was expecting. probably pretty much what i got.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 August 2017 08:10 (six years ago) link
"Game of Pretend" is a solid album closer.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 August 2017 10:58 (six years ago) link
Well, all "Sleeping Around the Corner" was missing to make if full Mac was Stevie!
It was totally the Bucky show here as well. I could barely hear Mcvie's keyboard playing, and she felt very much a supporting role. Having seen lots of Buckingham live, plus Mac, I think it would have been fine had she just been rolled out as needed to sing Everywhere, Little Lies, and Hold Me.She closed the show with that same quip about Songbird by the way. Likewise, I couldn't tell if she was joking or apologizing. As it was, the show was maybe half full and people were already streaming out.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 3 August 2017 11:45 (six years ago) link
that's disappointing. did they already play these summer Mac festival shows?
― akm, Thursday, 3 August 2017 13:45 (six years ago) link
I assume he's doing "Trouble" as well
― flappy bird, Thursday, 3 August 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
yeah they opened with "trouble," lindsey and christine alone onstage.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
truel but it sounds kind of small and weirdly enervated on the album. the live arrangement opened it up, made it more fun, bigger.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 August 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
xp whoa that's awesome, that's a great opener
― flappy bird, Thursday, 3 August 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
that show was amazing
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 11 August 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link
"trouble" -> "wish you were here" is a real heartbreaking opening suite
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 11 August 2017 03:35 (six years ago) link
also christine's voice was a little variable but she hit every note in "you make loving fun" so who cares?
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 11 August 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
i think "hold me"'s key was shifted but i assume that was for lindsey's benefit more than christine's
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 11 August 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link
Could you hear much of her keyboard? How full was the audience?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 August 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
it was pretty full but not sold out at the beacon theater i think. it was only difficult to hear christine's keyboard when lindsey was playing his solo tracks
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 11 August 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link
i think i enjoyed this more than any mac show i've seen tbh
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 11 August 2017 15:19 (six years ago) link
Have you seen Bucky solo? Because it was pretty much like every solo Bucky show I'd seen, plus special guest Christine doing her songs.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 August 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link