:D
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:11 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/j0SBn0j.jpg
― Odysseus, Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:12 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/NgVgKiK.jpg
― Odysseus, Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:14 (seven years ago) link
emobear:
http://static.spin.com/files/field/image/110121-black-cards-1.jpg
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:22 (seven years ago) link
Who is that?
― Odysseus, Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:27 (seven years ago) link
pete wentz!
i know you shun mall emo but cmon
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:29 (seven years ago) link
i was walking home from work just now listening to frame & canvas when i realized i was walking past the front door of where the old tower records used to be, the same spot where i purchased frame & canvas nineteen years ago :-}
https://i.imgur.com/LvQoDRz.jpg
― gr8080, Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:31 (seven years ago) link
...and where a student barber gave me an $8 haircut four years ago
― gr8080, Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:32 (seven years ago) link
:)
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:36 (seven years ago) link
And it hasn't grown since? That's a bargain!
― Odysseus, Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:37 (seven years ago) link
aw :)
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link
sup
01 Jawbox - For Your Own Special Sweetheart02 Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime03 Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy04 The Weakerthans - Reconstruction Site05 Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary06 The Wrens - The Meadowlands07 Constantines - Tournament Of Hearts08 Jawbreaker - Bivouac09 Sunny Day Real Estate - How It Feels to Be Something On10 Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You11 Juno - A Future Lived in Past Tense12 Seaweed - Four13 Rainer Maria - Look Now Look Again14 Knapsack - This Conversation Is Ending Starting Right Now15 Jawbox - S/T16 Fugazi - Repeater17 Shudder To Think - Pony Express Record18 Knapsack - Day Three of My New Life19 Bedhead - Transaction de Novo20 Rites of Spring - Rites of Spring21 Jets to Brazil - Orange Rhyming Dictionary22 Death Cab for Cutie - The Photo Album23 Hum – You'd Prefer an Astronaut24 Pretty Girls Make Graves - Good Health25 Royal Headache - High26 Burning Airlines - Mission: Control!27 Fall Out Boy - Folie a Deux28 Get Up Kids - Something to Write Home About29 Knapsack - Silver Sweepstakes30 Smart Went Crazy - Now We're Even
― mookieproof, Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:45 (seven years ago) link
Had a wee look at the Rate Your Music alltime emo list
http://tinyurl.com/RYM-Top-Emo-Alltime
― Odysseus, Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:51 (seven years ago) link
gradAy
― Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 11 March 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link
mordy based on your list you are the most faithfully emo, i think the exercise might've benefited from you policing more aggressively after all
― Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 11 March 2017 01:09 (seven years ago) link
Shelter - Mantra
Ha wow!
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Saturday, 11 March 2017 01:27 (seven years ago) link
man... I'm crying that I had to miss the final bit of the rollout today. just caught up.
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Saturday, 11 March 2017 05:06 (seven years ago) link
Bold placed. emo to the max B-)
Copeland – In MotionBrand New - The Devil and God are Raging Inside MeSaves the Day - Stay What You AreJimmy Eat World - Bleed AmericanDashboard Confessional - The Places You Have Come to Fear the MostCopeland – Beneath Medicine TreeThe Appleseed Cast - Mare VitalisThursday - War All the TimeMae - Destination: BeautifulArmor For Sleep - Dream to Make BelievePedro the Lion – ControlJimmy Eat World - ClarityCirca Survive - On Letting GoThe Get Up Kids - Something to Write Home AboutCoheed and Cambria - Second Stage Turbine BladeJets to Brazil - Orange Rhyming DictionaryArmor For Sleep - What To Do When You Are DeadThrice - Artist in the AmbulanceTaking Back Sunday - Tell All Your FriendsKnapsack - This Conversation Is Ending Starting Right NowBrand New - Deja EntenduMae - The EverglowThe Early November - The Room's Too ColdDashboard Confessional - The Swiss Army RomanceThe Get-Up Kids - Four Minute MileParamore - Brand New EyesThe Appleseed Cast - Low Level OwlFurther Seems Forever - How to Start a FireThe Spill Canvas - One Fell SwoopDashboard Confessional - A Mark, A Mission, A Brand, A ScarDeath Cab for Cutie - TransatlanticismBoys Night Out - TrainwreckSaves the Day - Through Being CoolJuno - This Is the Way It Goes and Goes and GoesSparta - Porcelain¬Chamberlain - Fate's Got a DriverStraylight Run - Straylight RunFurther Seems Forever - Hide NothingSunny Day Real Estate - DiaryTaking Back Sunday - Louder NowSomething Corporate - Leaving Through the WindowParamore - ParamoreMatchbook Romance - Stories and AlibisPenfold - Our First Taste of EscapeThe Promise Ring - Nothing Feels GoodParamore - All We Know Is FallingMotion City Soundtrack - Commit This to MemoryThe Starting Line - Say It Like You Mean ItThursday - Full Collapse Rival Schools - United by Fate
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Saturday, 11 March 2017 05:11 (seven years ago) link
biggest surprise non placements imo:
Pedro the Lion – ControlThrice - Artist in the Ambulance
no Further Seems Forever
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Saturday, 11 March 2017 05:16 (seven years ago) link
it pleases me that there wasn't that much overlap btwn voters for the Juno albums. time to get that reissue petition started.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 11 March 2017 05:20 (seven years ago) link
Props to Mordy and ArchC for the poll, I've run two so I know how much time/effort it takes.
I had a blast over the last few weeks reacquainting myself with so much music I hadn't really visited in a while. Was fun re-forming opinions on this stuff at such a different phase in my life. As well as learning about so much more.
Genuine thanks to everyone involved in the nomming/rollout for keeping it light and fun. Ive got a lot of not-emo(!) gripes with a fair share of the picks but it doesn't matter in the end, great results anyway. My fav part of these types of threads is when people talk about their favorite tracks and album moments and specific details about those, and there was a lot of that itt. Hi5 to Brad, Simon, AC, Mordy, my closest neighbors I think.
― Lebro v. Wade (Spottie), Saturday, 11 March 2017 05:47 (seven years ago) link
<3 <3 <3
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 11 March 2017 05:55 (seven years ago) link
and yes having recently done the Cohen poll I am also aware of how much of a pain in the neck these are to run!
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 11 March 2017 06:08 (seven years ago) link
</3 </3 </3
(felt like someone needed to type those in an emo poll that prominently features makeoutclub-era bands)
― why ruin a good tradition? (Will M.), Saturday, 11 March 2017 07:54 (seven years ago) link
Really regretting not voting for Orange Rhyming Dictionary now - listened to it last night for the first time in ages and it sounded great. Also it was the very first emo album I bought (January 2000 after seeing it mentioned in the NME). Happily I discovered I still have the CD lying around.
― Gavin, Leeds, Saturday, 11 March 2017 10:43 (seven years ago) link
Best discoveries from the poll?
― Odysseus, Saturday, 11 March 2017 13:18 (seven years ago) link
Mostly new stuff to me. Currently enjoying the Weakerthans and Appleseed Cast.
And not to harp on, but There Will Be Fireworks are worth a listen in this vein:
https://youtu.be/6-0LZ8my44s
https://youtu.be/Ia_o3kw6PGg
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 11 March 2017 13:28 (seven years ago) link
relistening to both juno albums today, thanking simon again for introducing me to my new favorite band of all time
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 March 2017 15:12 (seven years ago) link
honestly it's been almost a month and I don't know if my CDs are ever getting here so this seems as good a time as any
memorial thread of love and mystery for Juno, the Seattle rock band
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 11 March 2017 16:06 (seven years ago) link
SO I listened to 2 Jimmy Eat World and 2 Brand New albums and i thought they were ok.
― Odysseus, Saturday, 11 March 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link
Biggest discoveries for me were Thursday and Brand New.
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 11 March 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link
There's some good OOP albums on this bandcamp from screamo/post-hardcore groups so maybe they should put out the Juno and Gospel albums?
https://thearchivistlabel.bandcamp.com/
― Odysseus, Saturday, 11 March 2017 17:04 (seven years ago) link
The forcefedglass album on there is fantastic if you like screamo.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Saturday, 11 March 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link
omg the Quicksand/Rival Schools axis of melodic Catherine Wheel-y post-hardcore is my JAM
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:29 (seven years ago) link
I used to go to a shitty club indie/rock in Guildford and 'Head to Wall' takes me right back to those heady days.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 11 March 2017 22:45 (seven years ago) link
Who gave the other votes to Okara and i hate sex?
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 March 2017 04:00 (seven years ago) link
Love that someone voted for both Engine Kid records since I missed the deadline. Props to your ballot Odysseus
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Sunday, 12 March 2017 04:09 (seven years ago) link
I liked the I Hate Sex album. I prolly should've voted for it over a few of my picks.
I voted for Avril Lavigne.
1. The Get Up Kids - Something to Write Home About2. The Anniversary - Designing a Nervous Breakdown3. Hum – Downward is Heavenward4. Shudder To Think - Pony Express Record5. At The Drive-In - Relationship of Command6. Avril Lavigne - Let Go7. Jimmy Eat World - Bleed American8. Rival Schools - United by Fate9. The Dismemberment Plan - Change10. The Promise Ring - Very Emergency11. The Used - The Used12. Hum – You’d Prefer an Astronaut13. Jawbox - For Your Own Special Sweetheart14. Quicksand - Manic Compression15. Ozma - Rock and Roll Part Three16. Seaweed - Four17. Quicksand - Slip18. Sunny Day Real Estate - How It Feels to Be Something On19. Jimmy Eat World - Clarity20. Against Me! - New Wave21. The Promise Ring - Nothing Feels Good22. Panic at the Disco - Pretty. Odd23. Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary24. Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime25. Pedro the Lion – Control26. Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You27. Constantines - Tournament Of Hearts28. The Good Life - Album Of The Year29. The Get Up Kids - On a Wire30. Hop Along - Get Disowned
― billstevejim, Sunday, 12 March 2017 04:13 (seven years ago) link
in retrospect it's weird that Get Disowned got nommed but not Painted Shut.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Sunday, 12 March 2017 05:05 (seven years ago) link
true but either way i don't find hop along to be emo at all
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 12 March 2017 05:12 (seven years ago) link
Straight in at 101-125 // Emo Poll Near Misses
― ArchCarrier, Sunday, 12 March 2017 14:03 (seven years ago) link
Regarding the emo/non-emo distinction: maybe this is too obvious to be right, but I've always thought that one of the main things that distinguishes emo from adjacent punk-derived styles was its focus, especially lyrically but also musically, on vulnerable emotions like sadness and desperation.That would explain why a band with a sterling emo pedigree like Fugazi (half of Rites of Spring and the lead singer of Embrace!) isn't really emo (lots of oblique, outward-looking songs about politics and stuff), while a band with virtually no subcultural connection to emo like Weezer can place an album in the top ten of this poll.
That would explain why a band with a sterling emo pedigree like Fugazi (half of Rites of Spring and the lead singer of Embrace!) isn't really emo (lots of oblique, outward-looking songs about politics and stuff), while a band with virtually no subcultural connection to emo like Weezer can place an album in the top ten of this poll.
So, without judgment, I've been trying to work out/articulate something about how I think the understanding of the term/concept "emo" has evolved and why there’s so much disagreement on what it means, even if we just look at it in terms of thematic/lyrical content. My sense is that post-00, people are using it to mean something like “earnest, unreflexive expression of the raw emotions of sadness or romantic heartbreak”? And I think this might be fundamentally different from what it meant in the context of ≈85-96 post-hardcore. Even with uncontroversially canonical emo artists like Rites of Spring or Moss Icon, I can’t really imagine them writing lyrics like these (quoted upthread as quintessentially emo lyrics):
And I haven't been taking my medsSo lock all the cabinets, and send me to bedCause I know you're still worried I'm gonna get scared againAnd make my insides clean with your kitchen bleachBut I've kissed enough bathroom sinks to make up for the lovers that never loved me
My sense is that “emo” just meant they were dealing with personal introspection as opposed to singing about smashing the state but i) the emotions in question were not limited to, or even necessarily focused on, romantic heartbreak and ii) the way these emotions were addressed was either with introspective, even obsessive, reflection and self-doubt or with somewhat oblique and abstract poetic lyrics (cf Moss Icon), both of which are different from raw heart-on-sleeve purging. I think this is true even of the sappiest stuff like Rites of Spring’s “For Want Of” or Still Life’s “Outside Looking In”, let alone something like Moss Icon’s “Guatemala”. I think that people weren’t trying to write “Straight Edge” but they also weren’t trying to write “Pictures of You”.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 March 2017 14:58 (seven years ago) link
Sort of a half-baked off-the-cuff hypothesis. A lot of you guys clearly know this stuff better than I do.
You so want to teach this subject to your students, don't you?
― Odysseus, Sunday, 12 March 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link
Oh, I'd be doing a better job of this if I were going to teach it.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 March 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link
And hope is just another ropeTo hang myself with
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 March 2017 15:02 (seven years ago) link
the emotions in question were not limited to, or even necessarily focused on, romantic heartbreak
this isn't even true of '00s emo
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 March 2017 15:04 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, no, you're probably right: I don't even think MCR/FOB/PATD really fit that.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 March 2017 15:11 (seven years ago) link
So, then, why doesn't Fugazi qualify? I don't think "Promises" or "Runaway Return" or "By You" are worlds away from a lot of the stuff you're talking about.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Sunday, 12 March 2017 15:16 (seven years ago) link
good question! i mean, i sorta think they do, they're the ultimate post-hardcore band
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 March 2017 15:19 (seven years ago) link