rolling emo/pop-punk/dogs on skateboards 2017

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Legit surprised you've never heard of Hot Water Music in an emo thread. Sad! ;) xp

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 10 February 2017 18:46 (seven years ago) link

honestly "best album panned by p4k" would also be a great poll

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 18:47 (seven years ago) link

I guess we can save the debate for the poll but imo to qualify, bands should have *some* kind of over-earnest or, well, emotional quality, which is why I'd be comfortable nominating Juno but not, say, Black Eyes or Q and not U.

i would nominate q and not u personally but then i think that also opens the floodgates for like, fugazi, so idk

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

it's gonna be weird maintaining the limits of a very ill-defined genre!

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 18:51 (seven years ago) link

yeah and it's gonna feel weird and wrong if like The Wrens place above Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge

then again...heartbreak over silly shit would be v emo, so

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 18:53 (seven years ago) link

See I dunno if it's just the influence of the college radio circles I ran with at the time or what, and honestly no offense intended, but My Chemical Romance was widely regarded as garbage by the emo "cognoscenti" I associated with when they came out. Everyone was way more into the stuff coming out on DeSoto, Deep Elm, No Idea, etc.

Or maybe I just hung out with more punk rockers than it seemed like at the time. The joys of dissecting what "emo" is at 38 years old, 17 years after the fact!

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:00 (seven years ago) link

remember when ultragrrl (i think that was her name?) called three cheers for sweet revenge this generation's nevermind

Mordy, Friday, 10 February 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link

See I dunno if it's just the influence of the college radio circles I ran with at the time or what, and honestly no offense intended, but My Chemical Romance was widely regarded as garbage by the emo "cognoscenti" I associated with when they came out.

This was v much the perception in my friend circle at the time, I only learned to love them and FOB thru ILX evangelism (esp brad's) over the least few years

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:07 (seven years ago) link

i didn't like FOB until infinity on high and continue to find those earlier albums pretty boring + derivative - i think they really came into their sound around then and it has only been excellent stuff since then. MCR otoh was great from the get-go and if anything i think they kinda lost the plot the more proggy-emo they got. speaking of proggy-emo i'm unapologetically a coheed & cambria fan in particularly second stage turbine and in keeping secrets

Mordy, Friday, 10 February 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link

particular*

Mordy, Friday, 10 February 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link

second stage was a huge record for me bc it was kind of a "eureka" moment with regard to the continuity of emo bc parts of it sound like sunny day real estate

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:13 (seven years ago) link

besides ILX I think Thursday's A City by the Light Divided was what clued me in to the fact that there was a whole world of stuff I'd previously dismissed, and tbh I don't think I'd have noticed it except for the fact that it crossed over to the indie press due to (I guess) Fridmann's involvement

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link

anyway I will save my most controversial emo recommendation for the noms thread

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link

i remember wanting that record to cross over more than it did. thursday were always kinda acceptable to like though, all those godspeed! you black emperor references

xpost

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:25 (seven years ago) link

save all this talk for the poll!

Spottie, Friday, 10 February 2017 19:45 (seven years ago) link

this is the most conversational this thread has ever been and i'm enjoying it so much!

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 19:47 (seven years ago) link

tru sorry

Spottie, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:00 (seven years ago) link

ahaha it's ok, i also sorta agree

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

Did anybody listen to One For The Team back in the day? This is one of my fav pop-punk records of the last decade and I've been coming back to it a ton the last few months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmfq_PwyvPo

Evan R, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

i have no idea what this record is! i'm so excited!

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link

oh wow yeah this is great. thank u evan

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 20:33 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it's an old, dear friend of mine. Very much a product of its time, kind of a DIY stab at Tegan & Sara x 2009 Warped Tour x Silversun Pickups-era alt-rock thing, but the songs cut so deep and some of these tracks are monsters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLPxQsExomo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixNeF_9tBQI

Evan R, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

Tegan & Sara x 2009 Warped Tour x Silversun Pickups-era alt-rock thing

oh no! it's... my Aesthetic

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

will check it out

Spottie, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:38 (seven years ago) link

been on a little silversun pickups kick for a bit now

Spottie, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:39 (seven years ago) link

same, mostly in anticipation of their tour with 3eb

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

lol yeah, between Brand New Eyes and Sainthood and Romance is Boring and this record, this was an era that catered to me to almost ridiculous extremes.

(I was also seeing 3EB live a ton around that time, too, mostly by coincidence)

Evan R, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link

same, mostly in anticipation of their tour with 3eb

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, February 10, 2017 1:41 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is good. i will partake.

Spottie, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

they're playing the s/t all the way through, it's gonna rule, can't wait to graduate

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 20:45 (seven years ago) link

Stephan Jenkins still rocks a hoodie very well. I interviewed him years ago and he described 3eb as "slammingly misunderstood," and that wording always stuck with me for some reason

Evan R, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:47 (seven years ago) link

lmao

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 20:50 (seven years ago) link

y'know even though the years have proven that Tim Kasher is basically Diet Greg Dulli I still have a huge soft spot for the run from Semantics of Song to The Ugly Organ (and the first three Good Life albums)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

me2

Mordy, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link

(relistening to Young Simon Faves in what will be a long preparation for the poll)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link

"helped" by the fact that Domestica accurately predicted the eventual vibe of my first live-in relationship

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link

y'know even though the years have proven that Tim Kasher is basically Diet Greg Dulli I still have a huge soft spot for the run from Semantics of Song to The Ugly Organ (and the first three Good Life albums)

yeah that exactly the amount of cursive/good life i like. the few songs i've heard from his new solo record sounded pretty good in an early good life way

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 20:57 (seven years ago) link

between Brand New Eyes and Sainthood and Romance is Boring

Taking this down as evidence for my RiB is emo stand.

also does anyone remember the Nintendo Fusion Tour?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-08UCO2Zec8M/TuKaQd3SxKI/AAAAAAAAAPE/oc3E4BTMyR0/s1600/donkeykonga.jpg

devvvine, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link

Those Ugly Organ B-sides and those EPs they recorded while Greta was in the band are all essential, too. Every thing Kasher did got wildly uneven after that, but Mama, I'm Swollen is wayyyyy underrated. Some of his best songs are on that one.

Evan R, Friday, 10 February 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link

Los Campesinos count as emo for sure (I have never liked 'em tho)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link

first three lc records are v emo in their dna

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link

Very happy to be finding no resistance to this.

devvvine, Friday, 10 February 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link

Romance is Boring has some of my favorite lyrics of any record from that era. And yeah, super emo:

Please just let me be the one to keep track
Of the freckles and the moles on your back

Evan R, Friday, 10 February 2017 21:08 (seven years ago) link

for some reason that makes me wonder if Arab Strap should be eligible

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 21:10 (seven years ago) link

lol i'm open to the argument

devvvine, Friday, 10 February 2017 21:11 (seven years ago) link

naaaaaah

Spottie, Friday, 10 February 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

Very happy to be finding no resistance to this.

― devvvine, Friday, February 10, 2017 2:07 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well i'm gonna insist on johnny foreigner being eligible so it'd be weird for me to draw a line

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 21:12 (seven years ago) link

let's not forget that Conor Oberst guested on Hug and Pint

I dunno they don't feel like a bridge too far to me (tho, like, B&S obviously are) but I'm not gonna die on that hill

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link

well i'm gonna insist on johnny foreigner being eligible so it'd be weird for me to draw a line

― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, February 10, 2017 9:12 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

with you there, all in for 'salt, peppa and spindarella'

devvvine, Friday, 10 February 2017 21:16 (seven years ago) link

at the time of lifted i for sure thought of bright eyes as emo but in hindsight for some reason it feels more indie singer-songwriter'y? obv this has something to do w/ the trajectory his career took since then but lifted seems of a piece w/ the rest of his catalog - like maybe he was never emo it was like one of those things where something presents as X but it turns out it was coincidental and actually it turned out to be Y all along.

Mordy, Friday, 10 February 2017 21:18 (seven years ago) link

yeah agree. interested to see how you end up framing this whole thing with which inclusions/exclusions. good luck

Spottie, Friday, 10 February 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link


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