ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc

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Some really great stuff coming up, sooner and later. Not sure if I noticed Pumpkins getting added but that will be a fun one IMO.

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 22 December 2016 15:30 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Just curious, did we ever decide we'd do a ILM Best of 2010-2014 rollout? I believe we did one for 2005-2009 back in the day.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Monday, 16 January 2017 23:34 (seven years ago) link

I was going to last summer, but nobody (including me) was super enthused about it, so it just kinda evaporated.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 03:57 (seven years ago) link

some folks tried to turn it into a 2000-2014 poll iirc

example (crüt), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 03:59 (seven years ago) link

I think the consensus was that no good music was released from 2010-2014, promising a rather grim affair.

mega pegasus for reindeer (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 04:25 (seven years ago) link

Ha, thanks all. I'm sure it's a ton of work to put that together. And who knows what the turnout would be. Hopefully we do a 2010-2019 poll when the time comes.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:00 (seven years ago) link

If JF doesn't want to do a 2000-14 poll Then I maybe could if there's demand.
Maybe jf could be persuaded to do tracks and I do albums?

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:17 (seven years ago) link

the 2000-15 metal poll went nicely so it would make a nice companion

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:18 (seven years ago) link

oh does anybody want to do a kylie minogue poll? is this where i ask that sort of question? i'd run it.

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:36 (seven years ago) link

wooooo

nxd, Thursday, 19 January 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link

I would definitely vote in a Kylie poll.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 19 January 2017 16:25 (seven years ago) link

I feel like the commentary around the fifteen-year poll idea was that it would basically be impossible to make a meaningful ballot with that much stuff on the table - as tempting as a "all music released since ILM existed" poll might seem, conceptually. Whereas the five-year things, though still overbroad, do hypothetically suggest taking stock of the recent past in what might be a SLIGHTLY more coherent fashion - some kind of 'era' at stake.

stein beck ii: the wrath of grapes (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 January 2017 16:26 (seven years ago) link

I feel like the commentary around the fifteen-year poll idea was that it would basically be impossible to make a meaningful ballot with that much stuff on the table

I disagree. It would mean you really were picking the cream of what was released.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link

It would be much fresher to just have a 2010-14 poll. If we did a 2000-14 one we'd be just going over the same albums again (Sound Of Silver, Kid A, Silent Shout, Discovery etc). Also, Bee just did all those 00s polls recently which already gave away how the results might look. Doing a poll for those first five years of the decade gives other albums a chance to shine.

Really though, I just want to see what will happen if Kaputt wins.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 19 January 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link

wasn't that why some posters didn't want a poll? lol

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link

i'm on team 2010-2014

example (crüt), Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link

My view on a lifetime of ILM poll was simply that
a)companion to metal poll
b)most ilxors weren't posting in those early days

but it doesnt really matter does it?

I'll do a lifetime poll but if someone else would rather do a 2010-14 poll they can volunteer and I'll step aside no probs

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:18 (seven years ago) link

crut its your poll if you want it

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link

Would be curious to see an artists poll. Though I see an almighty clusterfuck deciding what constitutes an artist. Would Spector/Timbaland be eligible? Would you seperate acts who owe most of their success to one member, Wham!/George Michael, Rod Stewart/Faces etc?

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 19 January 2017 17:44 (seven years ago) link

Some Of The Greatest Artists Ever Are Banned: An ILX Poll

stein beck ii: the wrath of grapes (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 January 2017 18:08 (seven years ago) link

Sort of intrigued by the artists poll idea. What constitutes an artist seems a bigger problem than it really is. A month long nominations thread would clear the air.

gospodin simmel, Friday, 20 January 2017 02:12 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

time to get this thing rolling again. is anyone ready to run a poll?

i will do Talking Heads and can go second for this year, just can't start it right now.

Bee OK, Friday, 3 February 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

Is there a limit to number of Fela songs we can vote for?

― quan voice (voodoo chili), Tuesday, February 10, 2015

A Fela poll would be nice!

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 4 February 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link

anyone?

Bee OK, Thursday, 9 February 2017 03:31 (seven years ago) link

The next one I'm up for is the solo beatles poll but there's a shit ton on the list ahead of that

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 February 2017 03:38 (seven years ago) link

i don't think order matters anymore, do you? if you can run a poll that would be perfect, imo. i will do Talking Heads after that if you decide to go ahead.

Bee OK, Thursday, 9 February 2017 03:43 (seven years ago) link

Hard Rock/Hair Metal - gr8080
Stephin Merritt - Gukbe
Fairport Convention et al (R Thompson, S Denny) - Billy Dods
Jimi Hendrix - some dude
Genesis + solo - NickB
The Burt Bacharach songbook - C. Grisso/McCain
Dead C - Raymond Cummings
Royal Trux + side projects - sleeve
John Fahey - Naive Teen Idol?
Rush - Matt #2
Talking Heads - Bee OK
Gamble & Huff/Philly International Records - jetfan

^^^ the next general batch, yes? I'd say fair game to any of those before we go total free for all and abandon the whole premise of the thread. But Talking Heads is totally in there.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 9 February 2017 04:00 (seven years ago) link

I could do Jimi Hendrix. What was the usual time frame before every poll started lasting four months? Two weeks voting, one week rollout?

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 9 February 2017 06:54 (seven years ago) link

I think some dude still wants to do the Hendrix poll himself, or at least that was the case the last time the idea of someone else taking it over was floated?

soref, Thursday, 9 February 2017 07:04 (seven years ago) link

Genesis + solo - NickB

^ sadly i don't have the time for this at all, so if anyone else wants to run it please do

Benylin Ascent (NickB), Thursday, 9 February 2017 07:08 (seven years ago) link

Eep, yeah, to clarify, ArchCarrier, I meant "fair game" for those individuals to step up and claim their quarters, not for others to take over their polls. Sorry for any confusion!

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 9 February 2017 13:39 (seven years ago) link

No prob!

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 9 February 2017 14:38 (seven years ago) link

Can I get back in queue please for the pop punk emo poll?

Mordy, Friday, 10 February 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link

I could start it now if there's no objection...

Mordy, Friday, 10 February 2017 15:54 (seven years ago) link

^^^ i would like to express enthusiasm for this idea and its potential immediacy

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 15:55 (seven years ago) link

seconded

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 17:27 (seven years ago) link

thirded

Spottie, Friday, 10 February 2017 17:28 (seven years ago) link

i'll give it over the weekend for bee OK to give the go ahead. we can always start on monday. what sounds good - one week nomination, one week votes, one week results?

Mordy, Friday, 10 February 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link

Go for it, we need something to start

Bee OK, Monday, 13 February 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link

I feel like I'd like a slightly longer voting or nomination period but that may be just me

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 13 February 2017 19:59 (seven years ago) link

one week nomination feels right but i think a two week voting period feels more appropriate

the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Monday, 13 February 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link

otm

Spottie, Monday, 13 February 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link

yeah, more time for them deep listening dives, plus a shorter nomination process means less time for pedantry

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 13 February 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link

If It Makes You Less Sad I Will POLL Emo Albums

Mordy, Monday, 13 February 2017 20:13 (seven years ago) link

So I've got the finefinemusic spreadsheet. What have ppl found is the easiest/best way to solicit ballots to input into the spreadsheet? It seems like if I give ppl something like 30 votes (which is built into the spreadsheet), if ppl give me less I'll have to manually number the ballots? (If they give 30 exactly I can just copy/paste the 1 through 30 over and over?) Thoughts?

Mordy, Thursday, 16 February 2017 05:02 (seven years ago) link

Check my answer in the albums poll :)

ArchCarrier, Thursday, 16 February 2017 07:06 (seven years ago) link

When I've done these polls I have a vlookup looking from the album position to a list of the points allocated to the each position. Do as little manual entry as possible, get your formulas to do all the work.

I'm happy to do the spreadsheeting for you if you want, I helped Bee OK with the Van Halen poll a few months ago.

nate woolls, Thursday, 16 February 2017 09:04 (seven years ago) link

hahaha good title!

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Monday, 20 February 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link

lol thx i've spent too much time thinking about the various possible titles for these threads :p

Mordy, Monday, 20 February 2017 17:59 (seven years ago) link


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