And I think most people enjoy the countdown the way it is
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
and as a eoy pollrunner could I perhaps take this chance to remind everyone voting in metal poll ends tomorrow and we only have 18 ballots so far so all ballots from one album to fifty are equally welcome!
[url=http://ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=104977&action=showall&bookmarkedmessageid=6155782]METAL ALBUMS POLL 2016 VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD. [Voting ends Friday December 16 11.59pm GMT][/url
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
LargeUp's dancehall list is out:
1. Vybz Kartel, “Fever”2. Rihanna feat. Drake, “Work”3. Konshens, “Bruk Off”4. Popcaan, “We Still A Win (World Cup)”5. Alkaline, “City”6. Drake feat. Popcaan, “Controlla”7. Jahmiel, “Where Were U”8. Popcaan, “Ova Dweet”9. Vybz Kartel, “Western Union”10. Mavado, “Progress”11. Charly Blacks, “Gyal You A Party Animal”12. Dwayne “DJ” Bravo, “Champion”13. Chi Ching Ching, “Breadfruit (Roast or Fry)”/ Popcaan, “Wicked Man Ting”14. Spice, “Indicator”15. Chronixx, “Sell My Gun”16. Alkaline, “After All”
― rob, Thursday, 15 December 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link
The 10 Best Experimental Albums of 2016 by The Observer
Bloodmist, Sheen / Pale Horse, Badlands (5049)Body/Head, No Waves (Matador)David Grubbs, Prismrose (Blue Chopsticks)Chuck Hammer, Blind on Blind (AVA Interact)Daniel Higgs, The Fools Sermon, part 1 (Ideologic Organ)Alan Licht, Currents (VDSQ)Merzbow/Keiji Haino/Balazs Pandi, An Untroublesome Defencelessness (RareNoise)Rob Noyes, The Feudal Spirit (Poon Village)Okkyung Lee & Christian Marclay, Amalgam (Northern Spy)Thor & Friends, Thor & Friends (LM Duplication)
― Dinsdale, Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link
Thor & Friends, Thor & Friends (LM Duplication)
please tell me this is the guy from Zombie Nightmare
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link
agree w/ rob that largeup's list is factually accurate
― r|t|c, Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link
Does everyone get the link to Trainor's 'No' on YouTube as the top result for searching 'no' on Google? Shit is messed up.
― nashwan, Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link
meghan trainor is a quack voiced dipshit peddling regressive politics. "no" would be great if anyone else - maybe fellow ricky reed protege lizzo! - was singing it but pop radio is SUPER RACIST ATM so here we are.
― maura, Thursday, 15 December 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
Nope, the guy from Swans/Shearwater/a bunch of other things. Haven't heard the album but they were very good live.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link
That Thor had an album last year, Metal Avenger, and played the Alehorn Of Power fest recently!
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link
11. Charly Blacks, “Gyal You A Party Animal”
is this counted as 2016? i've heard it SO MUCH this year but when i looked it up it was from mid-2015
― lex pretend, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link
it's really amazing obv
They acknowledge that in the write-up. It's a year of impact call though the riddim is from 2014
― rob, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)
oh well this is good anyway. i like marimba.
― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 16 December 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link
my list:
http://tarfumes.typepad.com/tarfumes/2016/12/best-albums-of-2016.html
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 16 December 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link
i thought alkaline's "one more time" was even better than "city"
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 16 December 2016 01:09 (seven years ago) link
good list tarfumes
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 16 December 2016 01:13 (seven years ago) link
Ah I just remembered what EOY feature I was thinking earlier that does the niche/general lists quite well imho. It was NPR, I think?. Have you guys linked to it already?
http://www.npr.org/series/482024024/best-music-of-2016
The general best of albums and songs is kind of what we've seen already elsewhere with a few surprises. But the individual lists are great.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 16 December 2016 01:22 (seven years ago) link
Although I remember last year it was only one article divided by sections. Best classical, best electronic and so on I might be misremembering or it wasn't NPR the list I was looking for.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 16 December 2016 01:28 (seven years ago) link
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 16 December 2016 01:09 Bookmark
largeup list is never really about aesthetic judgement and esp not this year
in any case choosing one alka fave is like how ppl agonise between thugger tracks, but for real
― r|t|c, Friday, 16 December 2016 02:22 (seven years ago) link
"one more time" was the alkaline standout for me too
― lex pretend, Friday, 16 December 2016 12:45 (seven years ago) link
https://popstylemusic.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/charly-black-one-sheet.jpg?w=700
found this handy bumpf to help explain the success of 'party animal'. as you can see ja gave it 0 fucks
FROM THE BEACH PARTY TO THE DANCE FLOOR IN ONE FELL SWOOP!
― r|t|c, Friday, 16 December 2016 13:25 (seven years ago) link
the real bird sound power
― r|t|c, Friday, 16 December 2016 13:26 (seven years ago) link
Bummed about the lack of love shown to Kiran Leonard's flawed-but-remarkable Grapefruit. That album is really something, IMO.
― zchyrs, Friday, 16 December 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link
belated again so picking up a couple threads:
1) I don't really experience music socially, but that's only because in any given year the music I love the most, no one else gives a shit about nor can I make them. not even in a role where that is presumably my job.
2) the distinction isn't just albums artists vs. singles artists, but also celebrities vs. non-celebrities (even non-Designated Villains like Trainor, people such as Dua Lipa or Zara Larsson, don't get critics to give a shit about their songs), suburban-coding vs. non-suburban-coding (i.e. Rachel Platten), Songs For Olds vs. Songs Not For Olds... also not new, it's the same thing as critics latching onto the first solo justin timberlake songs and ignition at the expense of at least half that year
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 16 December 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link
and sure, the immediate cause of 1) is many lists being compiled via individual ballots, but that consensus has to come from somewhere; if a song doesn't get the full song-and-meme treatment early on it's probably fucked
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 16 December 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link
was shocked to see that Tracks poll hot favourite 'Black Beatles' got to #2 in the barely-relevant-but-still singles chart
― nashwan, Friday, 16 December 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link
well there was a meme
― rob, Friday, 16 December 2016 16:46 (seven years ago) link
it was so depressing when I realised that was the reason for it (also means I feel no inclination to vote for the song in any individual tracks context)
zara larsson made some superb pop this year, "ain't my fault" was a v underrated banger
"no" would be decent b-tier pop in someone else's hands but meghan trainor sounds so flat and bland on it. the song itself might not deserve visceral hatred but it reminds you of all the stuff she's done that absolutely does
― lex pretend, Friday, 16 December 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link
not to ride for tedious viral culture and whatnot BUT secretly i actually kinda think the kernel of the mannequin challenge as commentary on the vibe of 'black beatles' is quite cool spontaneous groupcrit
― r|t|c, Friday, 16 December 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link
but we've developed a nu-rockism around pop artists [prockimism?] that the "good" pop artists are album artists and the "bad" pop artists are singles artists
N O N E of these critics lists are going to ride for the actual hit pop singles of the year that didn't come from album artists — Lukas Graham, Sia, Gnash, Meghan Trainor, DJ Snake, Kent Jones, DNCE, etc
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:00 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
very good point. I hadn't really noticed although once you point it out it's obviously true
― flopson, Friday, 16 December 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link
black beatles was already in the top 20 and climbing prior to the mannequin challenge fwiw, that just pushed it over the top
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 16 December 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link
Whiney bemoaning the lack of critical appreciation for Lukas Graham? Well, I'm back
― imago, Friday, 16 December 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
Although I will say that the lack of PPAP in these lists is deeply troubling, so maybe he has a point
― imago, Friday, 16 December 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
those non-album examples are universally unappetising but his broader point stands
― r|t|c, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link
I mean, I do not like that Lukas Graham song but I'm also not going to pretend there's some objective reason that it's "not as good" as Drake's "Controlla" or w/e
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link
And, like, I can sing it right now which is more than I can say about literally anything Frank Ocean did outside of "Nikes"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link
what he did inside of nikes was very memorable tho
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 16 December 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link
the catchy well-written pop of frank ocean
― imago, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link
but whiney as an editor with actual clout what do you want (or intend?) to do about this structurally? i agree with the thrust of your complaint but when the entire music journalism industry seems invested in doubling down on this direction it feels pointless (not in a "we shouldn't care" way but in a "nothing will change for the better" way)
― lex pretend, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:37 (seven years ago) link
feel like a key problem is potentially brilliant individual voices getting subsumed into the brands of whoever they write for. is there space for any writer to kick against their own publication's consensus any more?
― lex pretend, Friday, 16 December 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link
I don't think there needs to be some **structural overhaul**, it's just funny that we've replaced one brand of corny opinions with another brand of corny opinions and call it "poptimism"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 16 December 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link
well, YOU call it optimism
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link
poptimism even
pop-timism, the new dad rock
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 16 December 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link
I guess I'm happy to live in a safe, sane world where Drake, Kanye, Lukas Graham, and Trainor are stuck in a burning building with no one do save them.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link
two of those artists are not like the other two alfred
― lex pretend, Friday, 16 December 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link
I will not go into the gradations of awfulness.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 16 December 2016 20:17 (seven years ago) link
are you certain the people behind these lists think Frank Ocean is objectively better than Lukas Graham?
― niels, Friday, 16 December 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link
its not really poptimism though, considering its still basically just auteurism
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 16 December 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link