pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Lil Peep becoming a breakout star in 2017 would be a very interesting experience. I would bring out the popcorn for that

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 12 December 2016 06:33 (seven years ago) link

ok what is with this pandora sponsorship thing tbh

"sponsorship is evil" stuff aside.....pandora? really?

austinb, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:41 (seven years ago) link

i honestly thought pitchfork and apple music were cushy so this is really weird to me, but maybe im totally off base

austinb, Monday, 12 December 2016 06:42 (seven years ago) link

sweet #1 choice

flappy bird, Monday, 12 December 2016 07:40 (seven years ago) link

Chance and Kanye have like ten appearances each on there

Number None, Monday, 12 December 2016 08:09 (seven years ago) link

And there should've been more: Fade, Finish Line/Drown, Same Drugs, Father Stretch My Hands pt 1... great year for both of them, really

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 12 December 2016 08:17 (seven years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/news/70394-adventure-time-islands-miniseries-announced/

so is this the first one that has nothing to do with music and doesn't even try to?

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 December 2016 22:00 (seven years ago) link

Wait, what? I'm so confused. Why is there a news story about a children's TV show on there?

Position Position, Monday, 12 December 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

hipster millennials love adventure time

j., Monday, 12 December 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

Golden Globe nominees story was worse

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 02:46 (seven years ago) link

Pandora's about to roll out its on-demanding streaming service. First step is targeting the Whitney fans.

> ok what is with this pandora sponsorship thing tbh

Frozen CD, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 02:47 (seven years ago) link

U GUYS

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

http://cdn4.pitchfork.com/news/70351/c22ba646.jpg

tfw when your site advocates for marginalized voices all year but boss asks you to play nice with the internet's biggest gathering place of unrepentant racists, creep-shot enthusiasts and kid-touchers

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

tfw when your site advocates for marginalized voices all year

i've said this before and i'll say it again

the more performatively woke an outlet, the more likely they are to treat (ALSO PAY) their inexperienced POC and LGBT writers badly

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

Wut? Surely you're not suggesting they pay POC and LGBT writers less? I know the whole enterprise is crashing downhill, but that seems highly unlikely to me.

Position Position, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link

no, and i'm not talking about pitchfork

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

I'm lost now

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

performatively woke

stealing this phrase because it nails the dangerous tendency to treat social justice as a trend (by definition: inevitably displaced), which is why I wonder how many Bandcamp proceeds will be getting donated to progressive causes this time next year. Then again, I'm a cynic

Wimmels, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

"performative" as synonym for "inauthentic" really spread quickly

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link

it's not really a synonym imo

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link

that didn't seem implied to me

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

u can be inauthentic without being performative. imo "performative" speaks more to a style of social media behavior than the actual ideas that behavior is promoting. it's the personalized version of a fluff piece PR ad from Exxon about how they care about the environment and the future.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I guess I tend to have negative associations with the word 'performative' in this context

Wimmels, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link

how can media be 'performatively' woke rather than just woke? all media is performance

flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

When they are making a big deal out of it more than usual? Everything is relative.

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link

but i mean... it's just words on a screen

flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link

Some you're saying it's only performative if you're saying it while waving your hands around in the air or something?

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

So*

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link

but i mean... it's just words on a screen

*keanu voice* whoa

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link

it's just one of those irritating buzzwords that becomes ubiquitous overnight, already way overused/misused

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

yeah it's become deplorable in its usage

nomar, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

Yes, very problematic

Evan, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

bacon

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

there's a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes, who the CEOs are, how the company is structured, how people are hired, how employees are managed, how content is cut and edited, etc.

or yeah, you could just stop and look at the final product/performance, words on a screen and think that's good enough.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

surely there are....degrees of performance

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link

some websites just love to perform
you know the type loud as a motorbike
but wouldn't bust a dominant paradigm in a wokefight

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

BOOM!

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

it's just one of those irritating buzzwords that becomes ubiquitous overnight, already way overused/misused

― flappy bird, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:22 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kind of like... woke

flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link

can we retire "woke" too?

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

where are akbar and jeff when we need them?

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

"performatively woke" is the latest iteration of jazz hands.

my connotation of "performative" is advocating for something else but still managing to make it all about you. that seems like a useful concept.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

that would be like 90% of anything anyone says on the internet.

scott seward, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link

my connotation of "performative" is advocating for something else but still managing to make it all about you. that seems like a useful concept.

― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, December 13, 2016 2:33 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, this makes sense. performative can stay. but woke is no longer bae. woke is totes just...no #NotTheOnion #Because2016

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link

that would be like 90% of anything anyone says on the internet.

― scott seward

oh come on jesus spends large chunks of the christian gospels denouncing just this kind of "performative" behaviour. human evil was not invented in 1996 by steve case.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link

my connotation of "performative" is advocating for something else but still managing to make it all about you. that seems like a useful concept.

ok that is useful, i guess. i thought PW was, like, ppl/corps sharing a bunch of SJ stuff on social media but not putting in any 'work'. so in case of online media, where literally all you do is write stuff for ppl to share, the 'performative' is redundant cus thats all you can do

flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

but yea woke sucks in general imo. white libs/leftists realized saying 'politically correct' makes u sound like a Trump supporter so we just made up a new word

flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

someone should make a Cathy cartoon w/her lying down with "IT'S HARD TO BE WOKE WHEN YOU DON'T WANT TO GET OUT OF BED"

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

ok that is useful, i guess. i thought PW was, like, ppl/corps sharing a bunch of SJ stuff on social media but not putting in any 'work'. so in case of online media, where literally all you do is write stuff for ppl to share, the 'performative' is redundant cus thats all you can do

― flopson, Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:32 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

id argue theres writing that is doing work—journalism, smart criticism, whatever— & there is writing that brands itself as "doing work" & really just writing from a script/reiterating cliches to enhance one's social status

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:51 (seven years ago) link

xp LOL

flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link

xp deej - think the word distinction u need there is good/bad

flopson, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link


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