maybe not "terrible" but certainly not "ideal"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
lol yes dance music can only truly be appreciated by extroverts with a budget
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
thrilling revive today
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
i prefer edibles
― A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
kinda weird to talk about clubs when the first two albums on the list are Aphex Twin and Autechre
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
xxxpost I would say, without hesitation, that anyone who reviews music for a living needs to listen on something better than earbuds, yes
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link
I heard earbuds are bad for your ears.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
e-mail link downloads that music reviewers get sound like shit. but maybe they don't notice if they are listening to them with earbuds...
― scott seward, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
that's fair but what % of music writers earn a living doing it xxp
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link
whiney owns beats y/n
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, December 8, 2016 1:45 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
exactly and this is why a number of people have noted that maybe lex should have acknowledged that this was a list of electronic music not necessarily dance music whatever else one might want to say about the list's merits
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
Sonos, boff
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
the discussion about experiencing music thru clubs as it pertains to year end listing is a thorny one because if the implication is that you will go out to clubs, experience music, then curate it into a list then... that takes a lot of effort! like, the way i see people experience new music in clubs can be like, you have to take out your phone and record the song as a voice memo so you don't forget what it sounds like. maybe your friend knows it or you know the DJ and can ask to find out what it is, but you might just have to hope to hear it a few more times so that you kind of just find out what it is... some other way, like if it's a track that sort of floats up to the top on beatport or something. but otherwise it's a very ephemeral experience. you really have to hunt shit down, there's no lyrics to google or hooks to shazam. so anyway i don't begrudge any non-professional dance music writers for not doing all that.
that said it can be a very rewarding experience :-)
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
Or you live in, say, Hoboken so your local clubs only represent douchebags and terrible music
― Evan, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link
dont be mean to yo la tengo
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link
They moved out of town all is lost
― Evan, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link
Steve Shelley still lives here but he's an enabler of the current version of Mark Kozelek so...
― Evan, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
yo wtf really? xp
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link
I feel invested in dance music having a function and a context, but also so detached from it because of where I live. So I don't think it renders anyone's opinion invalid if they aren't able or willing to go out to clubs, but on the very rare occasions that I do get experience good music on a soundsystem and in the company of other humans, it always makes an impact and realigns how I think about it.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link
a club where you can't hear the music sounds terrible!
― banfred bann (wins), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link
― flappy bird, Thursday, December 8, 2016 2:22 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah moved to Manhattan
― Evan, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, December 8, 2016 6:44 PM (forty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is funny considering the history of dance clubs as havens for the marginalised (also "introverts with no disposable income" is more my experience of fellow club-goers)
this isn't about anyone's specific lived experience though, do what you want. but a list of electronic or dance music that leans old, established and away from the dancefloor is BORING, even if it is a mere albums list
― lex pretend, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link
does the wire still call it's dance section "critical beats"
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link
For introverts with a budget
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51J9M39QXVL.jpg
― Evan, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link
its!!! sorry xp to myself
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Thursday, December 8, 2016 2:32 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they got rid of this like ten years ago dude
― Wimmels, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link
ok thats why i asked lol, thats when i last subscribed
― I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link
"Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger captures the band clicking on all cylinders."
what is this bullshit
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link
a cliché
― I know hoes that know Ali Farka Toure (voodoo chili), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link
it's firing
― harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link
it's a shitty mixed metaphor - cylinders do not click
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:51 (seven years ago) link
unless they're referring to a different kind of cylinder than the kind used in combustion engines, in which case its even more wtf just sloppy, bad writing
A clicking sound from the engine generally means something bad in my experience
In which case the review is correct
― badg, Thursday, 8 December 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link
Um, I think the writer pretty much fingered the sound of a bad motor
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 December 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
google "timing belt" to solve this one
― tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 December 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link
i was just listening to Lone Star's *Firing On All Six* earlier today. great album. better band than soundgarden.
― scott seward, Thursday, 8 December 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:00 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's a stretch, and maybe you're just joking, but I guess that could be it? Like, terrible punning-drunken-Uncle play on the album title? Surely not. err...right?
also was this album actually good? I have almost zero recollection of it beyond the singles
― Wimmels, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link
yes, but tbh I way prefer Superunknown
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link
Clicking usually means you have a bad starter. Or maybe it's an electric car, and it's just clicking "on?" But wait, then it would have no cylinders. Hmm.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link
everything post-Hiro Yamamoto sucks imo
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link
if you google "click on all cylinders" it seems to be used pretty widely, esp. in newspaper headlines. i'd usually seen "fire on all cylinders" but also who cares
― na (NA), Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
they're doing "funny" now too
http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9984-the-year-in-disappointment-2016/
― Number None, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
to be fair, most people don't know what the fuck they are writing half the time.
― scott seward, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link
Always wanna read it A Moon Shaped Poop
: |
― nomar, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link
Badmotorfinger owns the zone
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
yeah it's got Outshined
― niels, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link
i think they're saying matt cameron's drums are not recorded loud enough
― j., Thursday, 8 December 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link
The "The 20 Best Experimental Albums of 2016" list makes it clear why they felt the need to end the Out Door.
― Position Position, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link
Jenny Hval is such a crock of shit.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link
otm
― Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Friday, 9 December 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link