M.I.A. - KALA

theres no real breaks used on the album, so that kinda gritty aesthetic i associate with the genre isnt there, but the rhythms are most def lifted right from bmore club.

wtf 'rhythms' are unique to bmore club w/out the breakbeats???

the "Dick Control" kick drum pattern is somewhat unique to Bmore and not breakbeat-based. there's some others that are more recent and/or less easy to define, too.

i dunno, it seems to me that certain kick drum patterns have been around a long time and between bounce, house and bass music you'd have a hard time pinning origins on bmore club

regardless tho, the idea that MIA is going to help any genre 'get quite big' after selling 29,000 records is playing themselves.

hmm that sentence made no sense. i think u know where i was going with it tho

"i dunno, it seems to me that certain kick drum patterns have been around a long time and between bounce, house and bass music you'd have a hard time pinning origins on bmore club"

hip hop breakbeats had been around for years too before marley marl and whoever started looping them up but we still recognise the end product as 'hip hop rhythms'. same for bmore club.

really i'd put it down to tempo and not rhythms if I was gonna say something is Bmore or Bmore-influenced. certain rhythms or "Think"/"Sing Sing" breaks are only gonna bear any similiarity if they're at or around 130bpm.

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"regardless tho, the idea that MIA is going to help any genre 'get quite big' after selling 29,000 records is playing themselves."

untwist your knickers. im obv not talking about bmore cranking out great blockbuster hits. i just mean on a slightly bigger level than it is already. i mean, virtually every review you read of kala mentions the scene/music. thats going to have some effect.

"wtf 'rhythms' are unique to bmore club w/out the breakbeats???"

listen to a track like bombin cock - before the breakbeats kick in, theres a distinctly bmore rhythm in the handclap/kick drum track that you hear in the intro.

this isnt that hard to hear. not sure why youre getting so flustered about it.

noone's flustered, it was just kind of a dumb question to begin with. let the hollerboard sweat whether Bmore is "dead" or "blowing up" every 2 weeks.

i didnt say you were flustered, was talking to deej as he was getting all 'wtf omg wtf'.

"noone" = "not anyone, including deej"

now I'm all grammar-flustered!

you didnt start that sentence with a capital N.

this technique of using the form of "beats" to make music that's not actually beat-centric, music where it's kind of like avant / home-listening "beats," beats you here and listen to even though they're not actually there in a move-to-the-beat kind of way.

i think the album has both kinds of beats. the faster/noisier tracks are plenty beat-centric .(for this experiment i put on "boyz" and observed its effect on an almost-3-year-old. mad pogoing ensued.) some of the slower/blearier tracks take a more, i don't know, sculptural approach to the beats.they're meditative, maybe, rather than declarative. but i think rhythm remains the organizing principle. and i guess you could accuse her of a certain amount of rhythmic tourism. but of course you could accuse timbaland (for example) of the same thing. i like the connections she makes between the rhythms she finds (or has found for her, i don't really care), and i think she hangs them together coherently.

holy shit why do i keep clicking this thread

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tho lol at this bitch naming her song bird flu after gucci mane already did that

fwiw i remember the internet going nuts over her song w/ that title a while before i ever heard of the Gucci Mane one, probably would have to get specific leak dates to really know which one came first.

Tipsy, I'm not talking about the amount of rhythm -- I'm talking about how she keeps the rhythms kidna frequency-attenuated and non-physical, and it takes several songs before a low-end electro bassline makes them whole and physical. They're very much beats, they're just used, placed, and produced in a way that's different from the vast majority of beat-based music.

a lot of the rhythms are clipped and harsh, and i know what you mean about how "bamboo banger" seems kind of untethered until the bottom end finally kicks in. a lot of the beats have a clattery, front-of-the-speaker presence. i don't think it's not physical, though. not bass-centric, maybe. but i think it's beat-centric, i.e. very much organized around the beats.

(i mean when you talk about bedroom beats i think like idm or something, which whatever kala is it's not idm.)

why does only garbage like this merit in-depth drum sound discussion instead of fuckin mel-man or khao or somebody

we can talk about mel-man or khao or mannie fresh or anyone you want. i wish there was more talk about beats n drums all over ilm.

i find the beats lack that physicality in the same way beats from someone like the bug do. they lack a certain sense of groove.

yeah it's not really a groove record. they have that kind of post-punk staccato. (explaining both the slits vibe and the wrongness of thinking about it in terms of hip-hop sources.)

and what: personally i only like drums when they are wielded by foxy "bitches" from the orient! hubba hubba!

n*gga pleeze, she only get away with it cuz of 77 overdubbs

she can "overdubb" me anytime! woo-hoo!

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she can "overdubb" me anytime! woo-hoo!

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wait ethan do you love her or do you hate her or what

so confused

M.I.A.'s Bird Flu was released November 23, 2006, and on her myspace before that. Can anyone make out a copyright date on this?:

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2,300 B.C.

M.I.A. arrives at No. 18 with her sophomore album, "Kala," which moved 29,000 units.

CONGRATULATIONS, BLOGGERS!! YOU REALLY DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!!!

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2,300 B.C.

guess ethan pwned "this bitch"!

whoa. i got it.

my mind = blown

why the fuck is everybody so angry kenan about me saying mia makes shitty music but is still fuckable?? lotta bag-over-the-head rappers make tight music & lotta cuties make shitty music, big fuckin deal -- musically

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why don't you like the music?

i just pasted 4 pics of rappers i like

i thought you were saying ms melodie was hotter than mia

call her a bitch again, ethan, let it out

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Attention anyone who can actually be bothered to have that argument, the correct line of attack is not "ooh you are being misogynistic" but "ooh you are being like one of those lame dudes who posts on Cat Power threads".

holy shit why do i keep clicking this thread

-- and what, Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

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