pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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stuff like that is v important it foregrounds the bullshitness of taste

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:38 (eight years ago) link

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AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:43 (eight years ago) link

is Stranger Things really goth? can't wait to find out.

tylerw, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

I assume it was the inclusion of the Clash and Moby that made it goth

Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:51 (eight years ago) link

goth is a bunch of stuff that isn't goth

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

l-r: peter murphy, budgie

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:15 (eight years ago) link

Ever since the redesign (could be coincidence) they've been posting these weird stories occasionally that only exist because they involve, in whatever abstract way, someone with a connection to the music business but don't have much else to do with the actual music or the business.

― Evan, Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:30 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just any thin connection to music at all is enough to get those juicy celebrities/sports news/elections clicks? Silly

http://pitchfork.com/news/69610-bill-murray-and-the-chicago-cubs-sing-go-cubs-go-on-snl-watch/

http://pitchfork.com/news/69608-watch-alec-baldwin-and-kate-mckinnon-escape-snl-to-arcade-fires-wake-up/

Evan, Sunday, 6 November 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link

ppl love tv and sports

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 November 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

more than music

maura, Sunday, 6 November 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link

can't believe pitchfork is using the ridiculous tactic of covering things people want to read about

Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 6 November 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link

better late than never.

scott seward, Sunday, 6 November 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

Why start now

Οὖτις, Sunday, 6 November 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link

the ghost of frank crowninshield compels them!

scott seward, Sunday, 6 November 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

watch-bill-murray-arcade-fire-fred-armisszzzczxzxzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 6 November 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link

Just silly to me is all. It's like they're looking for loopholes around their own rule about what they can write about. Just change the rule!

Evan, Sunday, 6 November 2016 23:40 (seven years ago) link

I forgot that Pitchfork started with a set of rules that we all know and love

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 7 November 2016 00:56 (seven years ago) link

panda bear rules

scott seward, Monday, 7 November 2016 01:40 (seven years ago) link

I forgot that Pitchfork started with a set of rules that we all know and love

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, November 6, 2016 7:56 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't care about the rule. I'm saying they are the ones caring about the apparent rule.

Evan, Monday, 7 November 2016 02:30 (seven years ago) link

The Apparent Rule of Pitchfork: One Man's Journey through the Aughties

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Monday, 7 November 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

what is the rule?

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Monday, 7 November 2016 06:11 (seven years ago) link

disregard mainstream commercial culture, maaaan

pumped up kicks and levels on repeat all night (2011nostalgia), Monday, 7 November 2016 07:07 (seven years ago) link

The "rule" is that it must have relevance to music. That makes sense! But if you're saying "Great, we write a headline with Bill Murray and the Cubs in it because they are singing" then it appears you're looking for ways to meet that requirement via loophole. My entire point was that all of that is silly to me and if they've gotten to that point then why not just allow themselves to write about whatever they want?

Evan, Monday, 7 November 2016 12:35 (seven years ago) link

Just woke up here, sorry if that reads incoherently.

Evan, Monday, 7 November 2016 12:36 (seven years ago) link

Gotta say it was weird that the first post that Schrieber did in his Minneapolis basement in 1996 was just this one solemn vow to never cover anything that wasn't specifically about music. They framed the statement, which stands in the New York office to this day and make certain staffers kiss it every morning

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 7 November 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

isn't one of the lessons from the chives success the fact that bill murray is millennial male catnip

maura, Monday, 7 November 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link

i have a theory that the death of bill murray will be the greatest shared tragedy of our modern times

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Monday, 7 November 2016 14:32 (seven years ago) link

I'm not confused or concerned just amused. I'm not sure if this is coming across.

Evan, Monday, 7 November 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

Amused that they are breaking a rule that only exists in the head of ILX poster Evan?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 7 November 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link

there's no rule but it's legit to notice that there used to be a time when they covered music exclusively, which is the reason they became well-known in the first place, and that gradually they are moving toward a model where they frequently repost the same kind of mini-nonstories that 1000 other outlets cover every day, only slightly spinning them so they could conceivably have something to do with a series of pitches, rhythms, and dynamics. it's no big deal, it's not surprising, conde nast owns them and that's always how this was going to work out. but it's not a rule that only exists in the head of ilx poster evan, it's a memory of what a publication used to be like back in its better days, compared to how it is now, that's all. everyone gets that in order to continually grow and make a profit and put on more festivals and all that, they need to post more clickbaity articles. that's how it is most places on the internet these days. but it's fine to step back every once in a while and lament the decline of it all.

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Monday, 7 November 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link

Well, yes, obviously, I was just making fun of Even calling it a "rule" which is hilarious and insane

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 7 November 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

mock mock mocking yon evan's law

Rae Kwoniff (NickB), Monday, 7 November 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

*sways*

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Monday, 7 November 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

my brother's subscription to Circus started right when they started having hollywood icons like bucky dent on the cover. he was so pissed.

scott seward, Monday, 7 November 2016 16:12 (seven years ago) link

tbf Bill Murray was in that My Bloody Valentine movie

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 7 November 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link

Amused that they are breaking a rule that only exists in the head of ILX poster Evan?

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, November 7, 2016 10:34 AM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They aren't breaking a rule. It's as if they have one that they're bound to. The "rule" (a term being used hyperbolically here) is that for them to allow a headline to be published it needs to be, as Karl put it "slightly spun so it could conceivably have something to do with a series of pitches, rhythms, and dynamics". They can post all the newsworthy clickbait they want. I know why they're doing it and I don't care that they are. If they want to put Trump or Bill Murray in their headlines I say they should no longer feel essentially forced to wait until one of them starts singing.

Sorry that I'm not communicating this very well apparently.

Evan, Monday, 7 November 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

think we can all agree that the news section has always been dumb

tylerw, Monday, 7 November 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

what kind of music does bill murray like?

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 November 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

i'm gonna guess steely dan

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Monday, 7 November 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

"Breaking: Arcade Fire covers Go Cubs Go"

nomar, Monday, 7 November 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

wu-tang clan, duh

brimstead, Monday, 7 November 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link

the thing is.. when i was in high school (yes i am an adult) i would have snickered at many "random celeb + hip band" articles and shared them with my friends (yes i had friends) during lunch.. because i was really into music and using musical matters as a source of self-identification/conversation material..

brimstead, Monday, 7 November 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link

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Position Position, Monday, 7 November 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link

gonna side with evan on this one, does everyone really think that famous indie music site pitchforkmedia has actually been an avclub-style general entertainment site for the past 15 years? and fwiw i honestly don't care at all that they started chasing tv clicks post-CN takeover, it hasn't made the site better or worse or anything. just seems clear that Evan's right--they usually try to shoehorn some sort of music connection into their TV stories, even when it's laughably minor.

Also this:

think we can all agree that the news section has always been dumb

― tylerw, Monday, November 7, 2016 9:41 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is otm, it's usually just reprinted press releases, right?

intheblanks, Monday, 7 November 2016 22:56 (seven years ago) link

Everyone's news section is reprinted/retyped press releases, from Rolling Stone on down.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 00:28 (seven years ago) link


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