OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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Up above the streets and houses, 'Rainbow' climbs high

kinder, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link

"Want to hear it a fifth time?"
"No thanks, I'm good."

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link

a blog by some guy i've never heard of from coventry is how far we have sunk? they don't actually teach writing at schools in the west midlands, you know. nothing but instructional sheepfucking!

okay, i made that last part up. i don't actually know if there are sheep there.

scott seward, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

The music industry used to be about two things, the appreciation of musicians creating art in sound, and the ability to monetise that art in order to fund its production. Now it is about one thing. Money.

orly?

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link

iirc the time it was about those two things was the 1600s and ppl were mostly writing music for the local duke

mh 😏, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eta2ulTm4iE

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

wait my post was in this spirit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFELNIpeTjY

maura, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

everything sounds better when it was on home movies

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link

true

maura, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link

i wont to schol in the west midlands and youm very rong, Scoot.

nom de grrrrr (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link

yeah, the feature itself was very good but that last paragraph fell into the trap of conflating musical style with musical personnel. like, if this is the kind of music kesha wants to make then I absolutely support that and god knows she deserves it, but this is the writer editorializing.

(there *is* perhaps something to be written about how the bleak apocalyptic partying of early-2010s pop by women coincided with the people making it, but A) I'm sure there are assholes in literally every pop era and B) it's a little underbaked as a thesis)

also I know Ben Folds means well but if he only knows one musician who "has gone from being packaged to real" then he knows remarkably few musicians. (like, he for sure knows Tori Amos, right?)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link

Ben Folds and his associates

great law firm

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link

too bad they didn't get a music writer to do that feature or we would have missed out on a great "Ke$ha is sitting in an uber." lede

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link

she is sitting in her saturn return

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link

kesha's last album, warrior, had a cover featuring the pop star staring off to the west, green dust exploding from her head, a polygon-laden dress covering her body at strange angles like a unraveled bucky ball. the california hills in the background were purple, not their iconic verdant green, suggesting that things as we usually know them are, in fact, not what they seem. it's fitting then that kesha has had to be a "warrior" fighting in a strange world for the last four years.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:29 (eight years ago) link

i think "very good" is a stretch. i saw lots of lazy assumptions about pop and pop fans

maura, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link

lol @ "iconic verdant green"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link

remember that period of time where music reviews in themselves were entertaining or inspiring? idk, it was probably an artifact of my age at the time

now I'm more interested in well-written and informative for music I might like, and failing that, a complete trainwreck of an article like this I can giggle at

mh 😏, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link

I really am baffled at the consensus about this article -- the thing that gives me pause is that a lot of these assumptions are Kesha's, and if anyone has the right to completely hate pop music and making it, she probably does at this point.

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:47 (eight years ago) link

(btw I was referring to the indie dudes retiring, not the kesha profile, which I haven't read)

mh 😏, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link

i also learnt to write in the west midlands so i guess i am a test case, terrible music-writing-wise

also there are lots and lots of sheep there

mark s, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

i appear twice in a the enemy video, for a total of 4 seconds #funfact

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link

we should do a thread on those "setting the scene ledes"

Sitting at a table at the Beverly Hills Four Season, surrounded by an assortment of G-Unit associates, 50 Cent listlessly picks at a plate of nachos.

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 21:10 (eight years ago) link

meek mill looked through his glasses was my fav

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link

"I'm not sure you ever really leave the Midwest..."

Conor O'Berst is sitting at a Shakey's Pizza buffet in a post suburb of Omaha, the town where he grew up and turned into an indie-rock mecca. He is 36 years old.

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 21:11 (eight years ago) link

we should do a thread on those "setting the scene ledes"

― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, October 26, 2016 5:10 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Me and D-40 and Jordan S. used to talk about this all the time. There was a classic Jordan tweet about it

https://twitter.com/jordansarge/status/429349381142093824

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link

i kind of like the apostrophe there in O'Berst, makes me think of the guy in a different way

tylerw, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link

also I know Ben Folds means well but if he only knows one musician who "has gone from being packaged to real" then he knows remarkably few musicians. (like, he for sure knows Tori Amos, right?)

hi ben. may i introduce you to the beatles? or stevie wonder? or michael jackson? or, oh, i don't know, your entire industry?

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 22:22 (eight years ago) link

This is strangely reported throughout
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7557827/sarah-silverman-fred-armisen-weird-al-yankovic-festival-supreme-tenacious-d

Frozen CD, Monday, 31 October 2016 01:10 (eight years ago) link

strangely reported as though the readers not only didn't know the comedians but didn't know what comedy is

Britney Thinkpeace (m coleman), Monday, 31 October 2016 02:31 (eight years ago) link

I don't have a problem with the piece in general, but this bit from the NYT Magazine profile of Kesha was odd:

When the album was released, Kesha says, she was surprised that people criticized her for singing about the same things that her heroes, Bob Dylan and the Beastie Boys and Iggy Pop and Fugazi and Johnny Cash, had always been celebrated for.

Ah yes, who could forget all those celebrated Fugazi songs about drinking and partying?

JRN, Monday, 31 October 2016 03:48 (eight years ago) link

lesser known works in their catalog

mh 😏, Monday, 31 October 2016 14:10 (eight years ago) link

yeah whenever i want to pre-game i throw on some Bob Dylan cos he's always singing about partying

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 31 October 2016 14:13 (eight years ago) link

Rainy Day Women, BRAAAAAAAH

hardcore dilettante, Monday, 31 October 2016 23:24 (eight years ago) link

Street Legal

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 November 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link

from the 6 Best Things About a Tegan and Sara Show:

Their outfits are consistently on point and reflect the super-cool style they carry in their music. For the Love You to Death tour, the entire band has been rocking an all-white ensemble, plus a jacket of some sort for Tegan and Sara (usually a darker color or black). Can they get any cooler?

Show http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7565716/tegan-and-sara-show-best-things

Frozen CD, Sunday, 6 November 2016 01:24 (seven years ago) link

Noisey declares itself a voice of resistance.

It's been disheartening to see some entertainment outlets already begin to normalize Donald Trump, as if he is any way a traditional candidate or a leader whose opinions merely diverge from the norm. We at Noisey have zero interest in doing this. In fact, the agenda we plan on pursuing over the next four years will be the polar opposite. We will relentlessly and unrepentantly rail against fascism and bigotry in all forms. Further, we will continue to celebrate the culturally diverse voices that make America's music scenes wholly vital, unique, and wonderful.

...

We're going to fight like fuck for music fans who feel like they don't have a voice in Donald Trump's America. We're going to fight like fuck to give a home to artists willing to speak out against oppression, misogyny, white supremacy, and xenophobia. We're going to fight like fuck to provide an outlet to artists and writers of color, to writers who are women, who are immigrants, who are Muslim, who are working class, and who are members of the LGBTQIA community. We're going to fight like fuck to use our platform here at Noisey to oppose everything Donald Trump and his administration represent.

Noisey is still owned by Vice, right?

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link

some rad people write for Noisey,some shitty ones too. the same applies to Vice
'twas ever thus

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

I write for Noisey. Got a piece going up this week, I think. I just think it's funny that they're pretending/hoping nobody remembers who their parent company is and what that brand has stood for over the last, what, 20 years?

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

psyched that the music blog isn't going to normalize donald trump

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

in these times of domestic catastrophe and paralyzing anxiety, it is comforting to know that the world is ready to return to intra-media feuds

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

hi katherine

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link

imo their brand has changed a lot, but yeah xxp

mh 😏, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

fight like fuck

Wimmels, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

would you like some fighting fuck, beseeeerkerrrr

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link

lol

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 November 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

lede:

It’s a fool’s game to try to make diagnoses as to what might or might not be wrong with celebrities who one has never actually met in real life. Or, worse, it’s actively counter-productive: it can lead to the excusing of behavior that’s inexcusable, or conversely, condemnation of behavior that should be considered in the context of mental illness.

headline, subhed and rest of story:

It Appears That All Is Not Well With Kanye West

Kanye looks like he could use some help.

there’s something going on with Kanye West, and it’s upsetting.

West did seem particularly emotional on Saturday night.

it’s hard to listen to this speech and not get the feeling that all is not well with Kanye West.

e’ve seen this movie before — a talented, unstable artist becoming more and more erratic, being egged on all the while by the press and the public, who love the vicarious consumption of “madness” without ever having to live its reality.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 21 November 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

above from flavorwire

fact checking cuz, Monday, 21 November 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link

psyched that the music blog isn't going to normalize donald trump

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:53 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe pfork can give him one of those rare 0.0s

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 28 November 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link


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