Worst Beatles song on Abbey Road

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Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

xp yeah that's it, thanks for the link. explains why Abbey Road just never sat right with me. also George really can't write bridges- Something and Here Comes the Sun lose steam in the middle, despite their gorgeous guitar hooks.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

Abbey Road is the best sounding Beatles record, IMO. Really warm, full bottom end, a great drum sound and of course brilliant harmonies.

Or to sum it up in an equation... flappy bird = wrong.

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link

:)

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

That makes a lot of sense -- and yeah, this record was something of a template for pop/rock in the 70s, at least on the mainstream end a la Fleetwood Mac/Paul Simon (or hell, Carly Simon).

lol at worst Beatles album. It isn't. You *could* make an argument that it's a somewhat contrived attempt at recovering the Sgt Pepper studio magic (sans psychedelia), and after Let It Be, George Martin said something along those lines. The songs themselves are kind of all over the map (similar to the white album), but the performances and production are both ace IMO. Worst song for me is probably Octopus' Garden, though it really doesn't matter, because the record is such a huge thing for me, it's like asking what's my worst childhood Christmas memory. Even the time my sister broke my magnetic Batman is a beloved family anecdote now.

Dominique, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

Abbey Road does sound hazier/hairier/more stoned than even Rubber Soul. Definitely proto-70s.

xpost Great drum *and* bass sound.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

xp to the Emerick quote btw on mine

Dominique, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

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flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

i agree the performances here are ace. and i love when I Want You violently cuts off. i just don't fuck with the songs, the medley, or the proto-70s sound. different strokes turry

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

abbey road is pretty much the only beatles album (+let it be) that i never get burnt out on

marcos, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link

i don't think i'll ever get burnt out on "Come Together". Ringo's drumming is too good.

"Octopus's Garden" is lovely and knows what it is, a silly song w bubble sound effects. always loved the slightly sinister inflection on the "Happy and we're safe" backing vocals.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

When I was younger, my least favorite songs were actually the hits - Come Together (because it seemed simpler and less pretty than the rest of the record), and Here Comes the Sun (because it seemed corny). I've come completely around on Come Together, but still sometimes will skip Here Comes the Sun. Still pretty good tho.

Dominique, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

also George really can't write bridges- Something and Here Comes the Sun lose steam in the middle, despite their gorgeous guitar hooks.

this...um...no. The bridges take those songs to another plane. And in the case of "Sun," it's a plane where Ringo expertly negotiates the 11/8 - 4/4 - 7/8 time signature cycle with swing, power, and grace.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

I'd skip'Something' but not 'Here comes the sun"

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

and fwiw I think it sounds tremendous. Obviously, from Emerick's perspective of only working with tube gear, the difference between tube and transistor seemed stark to him. Abbey Road sounds different, but not worse than what came before. And I'd argue it's the apotheosis of Ringo's tea-towel-dampened sound.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

the bridge in "Something" is the best part of the song imo

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

Tarfumes and Adam OTM.

Always loved the shifting time signatures during that part of 'Here Comes The Sun', and Ringo does indeed navigate those time signatures well without messing with the basic flow of the song.

The middle part of 'Something' is my favourite part too.

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link

some insane opinions itt - most days I'd probably rate this as the *best* Beatles album for many of the reasons already mentioned, songwriting + performance + production are all at peak. The bridges in Something and Here Comes the Sun are both incredible! That "you're asking me will my love grow" bit come the fuck on!

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link

also George really can't write bridges- Something and Here Comes the Sun lose steam in the middle, despite their gorgeous guitar hooks.

I've been on these threads for years bashing George yet this thought is insane to me

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link

always hard to lose one's place in the vanguard

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, there's more than a few songs in Harrison's solo discography that I'd be the first to criticise for various reasons, and find his voice far less tolerable on much of his post-All Things Must Pass work... but if there's two Harrison songs I can't fault it's his contributions to Abbey Road.

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:25 (seven years ago) link

He didn't write two more perfect songs from a formalist's point of view than his Abbey Road material. There's that condescending line of George Martin's about "Something" ("I didn't think George was up to it. Super song."). Even at his worst (1974-1980) his gift for melody (the guy could write a pretty one) didn't abandon him like his singing and arranging skills did.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:28 (seven years ago) link

I know its strange but I sort of lived with the cassette edition for ages, so to me its Here comes the he sun and Something as the first two tracks.

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

'Here Comes The Sun' led off the A side on the cassette?

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:32 (seven years ago) link

the bridge on "here comes the sun" is insanely cool, tarfumes otm. my favorite part of the song is the beginning of the final verse.. the addition of the piercing yet soothing synth lead with "the ice is slowly melting" just kills me every time. i want to believe him!!

brimstead, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link

"Sun King" is kind of a big bag of nothing.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link

"the ice is slowly melting" just kills me every time. i want to believe him!!

good news!

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

and it won't be years!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

I may have asked this before but does anybody know what the first audible instrument in "Because" is? It seems halfway between an electric guitar and a harpsichord, always been fascinated by that sound and how it was achieved.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link

huh a Baldwin electric spinet apparently

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

don't mind me

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

i always thought it was the moog, so thanks

PappaWheelie V, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link

here comes the sun frequently brings me to tears, but yeah, the "sun sun sun here we come" bit just takes me out of it. same with "does your love grow" in something. what can i say? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
but I really don't like All Things Must Pass, doesn't do it for me at all. i prefer the bloodletting on Plastic Ono Band.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

it always bugged me that I Want You and Because are based on the same arpeggio, separated by only a half step (Dm and C#m)

flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

all things must pass has a lot of good moments but shit is a dreary record sometimes

marcos, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

don't think i've ever listened to even half of it straight throguh

marcos, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:04 (seven years ago) link

The songs are pretty, George's singing isn't.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

man that record got me through some really hard times, I will fight anyone that thinks there's a better Beatle solo album

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link

"Sun King" is kind of a big bag of nothing.

At last, some sanity itt. "Because" is worse though.

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

the only song i don't really f/w on All Things Must Pass is "Isn't It A Pity", everything else is great.

brimstead, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

xp ugh wrong wrong wrong

brimstead, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

this thread sucks

brimstead, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

I hadn't heard ATMP until I was in my late 20s, though I knew the radio hits. Love most of it (never actually listened to "Apple Jam"), don't dislike any of it, and significant chunks are superior to most of Let It Be and some of the White album. "Wah Wah" in particular has some dynamite Ringo playing on it.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

And this Harrison tune should've been on the White album even with Lomax singing, a la "Lose This Skin" on Sandinista!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEJBItLnw5I

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

xp ugh wrong wrong wrong

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lol which post

marcos, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

the one about "sun king" and "because" being bad songs

brimstead, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link

i would like to disagree with the idea upthread that "something" has a bad bridge. imo it's the best part of the song

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

a lot of it's down to the arrangement though, how the percussion and strings just start moving around furiously

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link

'Because' has often been the track from this album that I find myself playing a lot on repeat... I really, really love those vocal harmonies and the general atmosphere/vibe of the track. The a cappella version on Anthology 3 is gorgeous too.

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

"Because" is great. yes the atmosphere....those arpeggios... i love the Switched On instrumentation. song itself is very Yoko Ono. harmonies are wonderful, up there with "Smile".

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 11 October 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link


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