I remember Smith saying after the last album that he was often trying to write new songs and kept scrapping them, saying "I've done this before and it was much better the first time" and that he didn't care that much if there wasn't another album.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link
i've always really enjoyed 4:13 Dream. What's wrong with the sound of it? The guitars sound good to me. Maybe the vocals are a little too upfront? I dunno. Please tell me!
― brontosaur, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link
Listen to, I dunno, 'High' from Wish back to back with, say, 'The Only One' and it should all become clear.
― But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link
Apparently, after doing this, it all becomes very muddy. Except for 'High', that thing sounds great.
― brontosaur, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link
Yup. It all sounds a bit flat, particularly the rhythm section.
― But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link
I have to say though, "This. Here and Now. With You" is kinda great.
― brontosaur, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
the last two albums just don't sound good, bad mixing decisions, roger's keys all but absent. don't know what they were thinking. also, both albums entirely too long. great albums inside them though.
― akm, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link
Roger wasn't on 4:13 Dream at all! That was when he and Perry Bamonte were "let go" from the band and Porl Thompson was back in. Now Roger's back and Porl is out, and Perry will probably never come back. A shame, as that was a decent line-up. Not exceptional, like the classic 1985-1992 line up, but still decent.
― But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link
oh right. perry bamonte never felt like a real member of the band to me even though he was there for like 25 years. with porl was still around though.
― akm, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link
And of course even that classic lineup is three different lineups.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:45 (eight years ago) link
ned, you going to the shoreline show?
― akm, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link
I have a soft spot for the s/t album. The band sounds amazingly young on that record. "Lost" feels like the work of a 19 year old
― Evan R, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link
^^^ same, loved that record, felt like they regained a sense of dynamics after bloodflowers
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link
In general, Simon writes a lot more than most people realize.
― Austin, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link
Hehehe... yeah, even the classic line-up was three different line-ups, although to be fair the "core" of the band remained the same: Smith, Thompson, Gallup and Williams... with Lol contributing very little, Roger in and out of the band after one LP, and Perry joining at the last minute before both Williams and Thompson left.
― But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link
a transition from the likes of boris to jason cooper is just devastating imo
― always be charging (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link
Sure was -- and frankly, was pondering the best ride down and back, but of course you're on the other side of the Bay!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:07 (eight years ago) link
In fact, thinking about it, the most underrated Cure line-up was probably the Smith/Tolhurst/Thompson/Thornalley/Anderson line-up circa '84.
― But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:07 (eight years ago) link
It's a little weird to realize that Jason's the third-longest serving member of the band now!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link
As can be seen here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cure_personnel#Timeline
Yeah, I was just about to mention that... but at the same time, he's played on about as many Cure studio records as Boris or Lol did!
― But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:13 (eight years ago) link
(Sticking strictly to drums contributions and excepting Lol's keyboard contributions, if any)
― But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link
if you asked me the name of the cure's drummer I'm quite sure 'jason cooper' isn't a name I would remember, not would I ever associate that name with someone in the Cure. Poor guy.
― akm, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, Boris is undoubtedly the first person I'd think of if someone asked me to name one of the Cure drummers. In a way, I kinda feel sorry for Jason in the sense that he joined the band at a time when gaps between albums were starting to get longer and longer, and he's spent quite a lot of his time in The Cure replicating Boris' and Lol's parts live. They haven't really created a sizeable body of work during his lengthy time in the band, and weirdly, I don't think a lot of Cure fans have taken to his drumming even after all this time. On the other hand, he's in The Cure, playing gigs to large crowds and probably earning a truckload of money.
― But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link
I don't think Jason's ever really looked the part either... I remember seeing one press photo circa 4:13 Dream where the whole band were clad in their regulation Curewear, with the make-up and all that. Of course, Robert, Simon and Porl pulled it off as well as they ever did, but Jason just looked daft and uncomfortable.
― But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link
Played "Disintegration" for the first time in ... probably a decade, the other day, and loved it.
And it did prompt me to ponder that I don't think I've ever seen "Robert Smith not being Robert Smith" ... by which I mean I have a sense of who he is and he's always been that.
― djh, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link
Watch the videos to 'A Forest' or 'Play For Today', and marvel at the way Smith looks like an ordinary bloke in a post-punk band, as opposed to the more familiar birds nest hair and make-up that's become his trademark look.
― But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Wednesday, 11 May 2016 21:22 (eight years ago) link
Jason Thudfist is actually the second-longest running member of The Cure ever - Simon has left at least twice during Jason's tenure (there was a proper break around the Cogasm / Wrong Number period, and iirc an invisible-at-the-time dummy spit over Ross Robinson's involvement in The Cure).
― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 12 May 2016 01:30 (eight years ago) link
my ticket:https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/aVVIi1wa0l6LgVm4ZZ1x1PXOFQNR_oIP0g1o7VsEpy6N8rCOD__TGriCNyMBTu-fSemPHJWsvTqLTRObvM-sNKKn9HvcjdNP8QBM4dCitsRyqH_Gg5RdeFmi3HUWi_BloYj8LYAVzTonupr6nrY4p6JLFV6UZY8GU7C9z-mUA5UhZYECyt_DxkMzLxtKVPhNsWcl2bzPgHpsyKH2Aqcdp_yG9uU5RKDl_pdk0JG5z46tXo0axT7FJ-IlT4JTL0PIQRbGhzNJWDw_NhV8mp9bHWtaf4GKrS1HuXoQ_6PgEirJMKhMGut9iCCiZQHwQh7nIhkg8m6Pu-LNc6dhNcpjnGvFc9NPCeiKlgQPyLQWBeKF8_S6qYia7aG3RmwWTuGkglBAUi3LoU-ZkFDVchHmcTCW8LdK6dflPc3UZxX7DHb55JYbW1Yq2jcX1LnT4mOGnlJrNF66VuRlZDmEj0L7fnyDEB23mIPGOWZ9VNohRa4MeBijHev2epWur6j-4nmdxotyc38Jm5aXgamh1XPUlkIrgNsr56Mka46eV_CFpZg=w835-h470-no
― Bee OK, Thursday, 12 May 2016 01:35 (eight years ago) link
Robert says they've decided to do different songs both nights, although we don't know that yet. :) So all of the usual suspects that were skipped last night, probably expect them tonight?
― Bee OK, Thursday, 12 May 2016 01:49 (eight years ago) link
oh wow, i will have no idea what they are going to play by the time my show comes around. so excited, this is right around my birthday. so im being pampered, which mainly means i don't have to drive. win-win.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 12 May 2016 01:50 (eight years ago) link
I try hard not to think about Tony Soprano when I see pics of Robert these days. I was going to post a photo but I decided it was a cheap shot (as if the comment's not a cheap shot already). And to clarify, I say this as an obsessive Cure fan up to (but definitely not including) Wish, though I also love the Trilogy DVD.
― MatthewK, Thursday, 12 May 2016 01:58 (eight years ago) link
So, this is basically going to be the greatest tour, ever...
― Bee OK, Thursday, 12 May 2016 03:16 (eight years ago) link
The Cure start with "Plainsong" tonight. They also played "A Night Like This" and "This Twilight Garden."
― Bee OK, Thursday, 12 May 2016 03:29 (eight years ago) link
if they play those songs at my show. i could die a happy man. i also have no idea what songs they are going to play in their encoreS.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 12 May 2016 03:30 (eight years ago) link
how can someone not love Wish
― akm, Thursday, 12 May 2016 04:03 (eight years ago) link
What a crazy goddamn setlist:
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-cure/2016/kiefer-uno-lakefront-arena-new-orleans-la-5bf16b14.html
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 May 2016 04:28 (eight years ago) link
wow. looking forward to the shoreline show a lot. haven't seen them in ... 12 years? whenever that tour with Mogwai and some crappy bands was.
― akm, Thursday, 12 May 2016 04:32 (eight years ago) link
Curiosa. Which I avoided because why do I want to see a Cure festival set when I could have the real thing. As it were. (Mind you, that tour is where Ben and Aly met that eventually led to School of Seven Bells, so it was all worth it for that.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 May 2016 04:38 (eight years ago) link
listening to the S/T record for the first time since it came out and I kinda dismissed it. I am really enjoying it! getting super stoked about seeing em in LA on the 24th and working through the discography backwards. for a band that has been around forever its a pretty manageable body of work just looking at the LPs.
hoping they'll play Jupiter Crash on this tour.
― brontosaur, Thursday, 12 May 2016 05:32 (eight years ago) link
The Cure start with "Plainsong" tonight. They also played "A Night Like This" and "This Twilight Garden."― Bee OK, Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:29 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkif they play those songs at my show. i could die a happy man.
if they play those songs at my show. i could die a happy man.
otm X 1000
― always be charging (rip van wanko), Thursday, 12 May 2016 05:40 (eight years ago) link
Atlanta if you're reading robert
― always be charging (rip van wanko), Thursday, 12 May 2016 05:41 (eight years ago) link
Ahhhh i can't wait to see them ahhhhh and yah Jason sucks
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 12 May 2016 07:09 (eight years ago) link
I saw them on the Curiosa fest and thought they were pretty good (a little before that I saw them in a club behind Bloodflowers; they were great). But then I saw them at a bigger place, as a 4-piece, in 2008, and was not feeling it for some reason.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 May 2016 13:58 (eight years ago) link
Last time I saw them was 2008 in LA -- four-piece lineup as mentioned, their non-keyboard years, and I liked it for that reason. Stellar set and the new songs were great. I think for sheer stately wonder my favorite time seeing them was the Rose Bowl 1992, though I would have loved to have been at Dodger Stadium 1989.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 May 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link
my favorite show was the medium-sized stage tour they did in... 1998? I was in the 8th row for that one and it was fantastic
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 12 May 2016 17:38 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, anyone who caught that one I'm quite envious of. The other one I wish I had seen was the Reflections tour in LA but other factors prevented me from going, sadly.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 May 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link
ah, it was 1997: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-cure/1997/orpheum-theatre-boston-ma-33d7e02d.html
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 12 May 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link
would lose my shit
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 May 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link
are you talking about the pantageas show ned? yah i was there it was amazing.
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 12 May 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link