Apparently voting for mostly indie/post-punk stuff will give you chamber pop as your Top Genre. What the fuck?
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Friday, 22 January 2016 09:08 (eight years ago) link
i think everyones genre is messed up, except for minei *clenches fist* frickin love indie r&b
― nxd, Friday, 22 January 2016 09:10 (eight years ago) link
Phoebe Ryan - Mine― dyl
― dyl
I almost voted for that but cut it at the last minute
― groovypanda, Friday, 22 January 2016 09:21 (eight years ago) link
DOG LATIN
weighted ballot25 votesIn Top 77: 11Hivemind: 236.96Fuxxor: 0.05Antifuxxor: 4,549.63Populism: 0.58Loneliness0.20Blood Sausage: 34.20Hotness 0.14Neighbour: Mercer FinnRead: Gorilla vs BearGenre: Trap Music
1.Korede Bello - Godwin2. Domenique Dumont - L'Esprit de L'Escalier3. Fetty Wap - Trap Queen4. Future - Just Like Bruddas 5. Carly Rae Jepsen - Boy Problems6. Donnie Trumpet & the Social Experiment - Sunday Candy7. AKA ft. Burna Boy, Da Les & Jr. - All Eyes On Me8. Bicep - Just9. Carly Rae Jepsen - Let's Get Lost10. DJ Paypal - Slim Trak11. Format:B - Chunky12. Frazey Ford - September Fields13. Kendrick Lamar - King Kunta14. Ricky Blaze ft. Shaggy & Kranium - Overrated15. Jack Ü ft. Justin Bieber - Where Are Ü Now16. Miami Horror - Wild Motion (Set It Free)17. Fay-Ann Lyons - Drift18. Skepta - Shutdown19. Young Thug - With That20. Future - March Madness21. Stormzy - Know Me From22. Major Lazer & DJ Snake ft. MØ - Lean On23. Mumdance x Novelist - 1 Sec24. Carly Rae Jepsen - Making the Most of the Night25. Algiers - Irony. Utility. Pretext
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 22 January 2016 09:35 (eight years ago) link
Foster - AEIOU
cut this one from my ballot for no good reason
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 22 January 2016 09:48 (eight years ago) link
getting severe regretful pangs seeing other people vote for things i cut indefensibly from my ballot (apart from there being no songs i could plausibly cut from my actual ballot)
Angela Hunte & Machel Montano - Party DoneAnohni - 4 DegreesKiss Daniel - Good TimeVybz Kartel ft. Konshens, Spice & Tussan - Dancehall (Remix)Natalie La Rose ft. Jeremih - SomebodyMaliibu N Helene - Figure 8Rush - AttentionTekno - DuroSpice - Needle Eye Pum PumDJ Sprinkles & Mark Fell - FreshCamelPhat ft. A*M*E - Paradigm (Amtrac Temptation Mix)Young Thug - PacifierDexta Daps - 7ElevenSelena Gomez - Good For YouBobby Brackins ft. Zendaya & Jeremih - My JamKalenna - Space and Time
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 22 January 2016 10:07 (eight years ago) link
can't believe i didn't vote for pacifier. what was i thinking?
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 22 January 2016 10:10 (eight years ago) link
Is it possible to get my ballot sent to me, poll gods?
― Tim F, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:51 (eight years ago) link
my ballot
1. Stormzy - Know Me From2. Colleen Green - TV3. Beach Slang - Too Late To Die Young4. Grimes - Realiti (Demo)5. JME ft. Skepta, Shorty & Frisco - Don't @ Me6. Carly Rae Jepsen - When I Needed You7. Skepta - Shutdown8. Stormzy - Shut Up9. Destroyer - Times Square10. The Mountain Goats - The Legend of Chavo Guerrero11. Fetty Wap - Trap Queen12. David Bowie - Blackstar13. Miguel - Leaves14. Joanna Newsom - Sapokanikan15. Years & Years - Shine16. Kurt Vile - Pretty Pimpin17. Courtney Barnett - Pedestrian at Best18. The 1975 – Love Me19. Mumdance x Novelist - 1 Sec20. Justin Bieber - What Do You Mean?21. Susanne Sundfør - Accelerate22. CHVRCHES - Leave A Trace23. Bill Baird - Ken Burns Says Jazz 3 Billion Times Actually 2.97 Bn In Under 3.5 Minutes24. M.I.A. - Borders25. Very Fresh - Clean Touch
― puppy enforcer (cajunsunday), Friday, 22 January 2016 10:57 (eight years ago) link
my ballot 1-4 then unweighted
Skepta - ShutdownDizzee Rascal ft. Giggs - NutcrackerzRae Sremmurd - This Could Be UsMoony - Fire Man
Amber - Shake That BrassChampion ft. Teresa - Red LightDEV - Honey DipDJ S.K.T ft. Rae - Take Me AwayEtienne de Crecy ft. Madeline Follin -You (Todd Edwards Remix)Gucci Mane ft. Young Thug,Khrome 1,Young A - Shotas & RostasKehlani ft.Lexii Alijai - JealousKero Kero Bonito - Picture ThisKid Ink ft. Trey Songz - About MineLady Leshurr - Queen's Speech 4Lucky Charmes ft. Wiley - Skank (Skank Out) (DJ Q Remix)Mello Music Group ft. Open Mike Eagle and Exile - Dark Comedy Late ShowRed Velvet - Ice Cream CakeRich Homie Quan - Flex (Ooh, Ooh, Ooh)Scales ft. Zack Knight - Green EyesSkeme - Red Carpet (Roll Out)Tahiti - Phone NumberTchami ft. AC Slater & Kaleem Taylor - Missing Youtrc ft. princess nyah - butterflies (dj q remix)Vince Staples ft. Snoh Aalegra - Jump Off The RoofYoung Thug - Mine
― pandemic, Friday, 22 January 2016 10:58 (eight years ago) link
don't know who Voodle Nague is but I have no memory of voting in the tracks poll
all about Albums by Bands
― Jute Gazte (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 January 2016 11:11 (eight years ago) link
Music
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 22 January 2016 11:33 (eight years ago) link
Mixed ballot. Bold = placed in Top 77.
Weighted:Songhoy Blues – Soubour (107)Kamasi Washington – Re Run Home (81)Field Music – The Noisy Days Are Over (519, sole voter)Jamie xx – Loud Places (ft Romy) (109)Father John Misty – The Night Josh Tillman Came To Our Apt. (578, sole voter)Kendrick Lamar – King Kunta (3)CHVRCHES – Clearest Blue (43)Floating Points – Silhouettes (I, II & III) (74)Holly Herndon – Morning Sun (272)Insanlar – Kime Ne (Ricardo Villalobos Mix 1) (44)Donnie Trumpet & The Social Experiment – Sunday Candy (9)Jenny Hval – That Battle Is Over (241)CHVRCHES – Leave A Trace (Four Tet Remix) (25)Thundercat – Them Changes (ft Flying Lotus & Kamasi Washington) (75)
Unweighted:Simon Fisher Turner – Shishapangma (Sprinkles' Deeperama) (416)Ashley Monroe – Bombshell (1022, sole voter)Roisin Murphy – House of Glass (125)Anneli Drecker – Circulating Light (1022, sole voter)Unknown Mortal Orchestra – Necessary Evil (1022, sole voter)Everything Everything – No Reptiles (1022, sole voter)Julia Holter – Feel You (23)Robyn & La Bagatelle Magique – Love Is Free (615)Ibeyi – Exhibit Diaz (1022, sole voter)St Germain – Real Blues (710)Mike Garry & Joe Duddell – St Anthony: An Ode to Anthony H Wilson (1022, sole voter)
― mike t-diva, Friday, 22 January 2016 12:01 (eight years ago) link
hoping the votes for various angel haze and abra trax here bode well for the albums poll
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 22 January 2016 12:04 (eight years ago) link
weighted
Dej Loaf ft. Big Sean - Back UpGrimes - Realiti (Demo)Future - Real SistersDrake - Back to BackMiguel - Leavestwo-9 - did itPost Malone - White IversonLana Del Rey - FreakAngel Haze - Moonrise KingdomLil wayne - He's DeadDemi Lovato - Cool for the SummerFrench Montana - body numb full of drugsFuture - News or SomethinJuicy J ft. Wiz Khalifa - Whole ThangAngel Haze - Bruisessarah cracknel - hearts are for breakingRihanna - Bitch Better Have My Moneysarah cracknel ft. nicky wire - nothing left to talk aboutOmarion ft. BJ the Kid - Game OverTate Kobang - Bank Rolls (Remix)Freddie gibbs - white rangebobby raps & corbin - welcome to the hell zoneLittle Boots - desireEllie Goulding - We can't move to thisTroy Ave - She Belong to the Game
― johnny crunch, Friday, 22 January 2016 12:11 (eight years ago) link
Omarion ft. Chris Brown & Jhene Aiko - Post To BeOlamide - Melo MeloKendrick Lamar - AlrightGot7 - Just RightLim Kim - AwooSufjan Stevens- Should Have Known BetterFetty Wap - Trap QueenBig Bang - LoserOlamide - BoboBraids - Miniskirtgrimes - butterflyMiguel - CoffeeTy Dolla $ign - SolidKendrick Lamar - King KuntaOMI - Cheerleader (Felix Jaehn Remix)Timaya ft. Destra - Sanko (Remix)Fetty Wap ft. Monty - My WayArijit Singh ft. Aditi Singh Sharma - Sooraj Dooba HainDJ Kent - Don't Let GoGrimes - Flesh without BloodPatoranking ft. Wande Coal - My Woman, My EverythingBadshah ft. Aastha Gill - DJ Waley BabuDrake - Hotline BlingPost Malone - White IversonYoung Thug ft. Birdman - Constantly Hating
Threw it together way too fast, and a lot of what I'd thought I'd vote for I ended up forgetting to nominate... I'm not good at guessing what's popular on here, thought for sure Post to Be would place, and that Bobo had a pretty good chance as well. Knew that Melo Melo had no chance.
― Frederik B, Friday, 22 January 2016 12:21 (eight years ago) link
you thought for sure a Chris Brown joint would place?
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a truck (imago), Friday, 22 January 2016 12:21 (eight years ago) link
Hm... yeah I see you're point...
― Frederik B, Friday, 22 January 2016 12:27 (eight years ago) link
I wish Id voted for Post to Be...I kept hearing that 'groceries' line everywhere, with no idea that it was Jhene...
― Peaking Lights covers One More Time (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 22 January 2016 13:57 (eight years ago) link
psssh rasheeda did the groceries line first and better
(i do like "post to be")
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 22 January 2016 14:04 (eight years ago) link
Tim F's ballot (hope it's ok to post it here):
Grimes - Realiti (Demo)KING - The GreatestThe 1975 – Ugh!Fetty Wap - Trap QueenKendrick Lamar - AlrightHercules & Love Affair - Do You Feel The Same (Todd Terry Remix)Demi Lovato – Cool for the SummerYoung Thug - PacifierBicep - CelesteJ Hus - Dem Boy PaigonYears & Years - KingMiguel - CoffeeKrystal Klear ft. Yasmin - One Night OnlySpice - Back BendLauren Mason - GhostsYemi Alade ft. Mugeez - PoseNicki Minaj ft. Beyonce - Feeling MyselfRed Velvet - Dumb DumbRihanna - Bitch Better Have My MoneyVybz Kartel ft. Konshens, Spice & Tussan - Dancehall (Remix)Skales - Je Kan MoFloating Points - Nuits SonoresLindstrøm & Grace Hall - Home TonightCiara - Dance Like We're Making LoveÉtienne de Crécy ft. Madeline Follin - You (Todd Edwards Remix)
― conditional random jepsen (seandalai), Friday, 22 January 2016 14:05 (eight years ago) link
Not that it wouldve affected a damn thing, but tracks I wish i'd thought about voting for:
Errorsmith & Mark Fell - ProtogravityNick Hoppner - Come Closer
― seb mooczag (NickB), Friday, 22 January 2016 14:48 (eight years ago) link
i limited myself to 20 tracks and did the same for albums; i certainly could've done more but I was wrapped up doing the collation of other lists and I didn't want to think too seriously on something that will shift a hundred times over the upcoming year as I listen to more from 2015... Lord knows, my revamped 2014 ballot would look totally different from what I sent in then!
TRACKSD.R.A.M. - Cha Cha3 Winan Brothers and The Clark Sisters - Dance (Louis Vega Dance Ritual Mix) Fetty Wap - No Days Off Future - Fuck Up Some CommasLION BABE - Wonder Woman (Joel Compass Remix)Miguel - CoffeeMissy Elliott ft. Pharrell Williams - WTF (Where They From)Sevyn Streeter - 4th StreetiNSANLAR - Kime NeErykah Badu and Andre 3000 - Hello Brian Blade and The Fellowship Band - Landmarks (came out last year but impact for me in this one)Busy Signal - #Text MessageYG - Twist My FingazRich Homie Quan - Flex (Ooh, Ooh, Ooh)ilovememphis - Hit the QuanLim Kim - AwooJack Ü ft. Justin Bieber - Where Are Ü NowJeremih - Pass DatVictor Manuelle - Que Suenen los TamboresJamie xx ft. Young Thug & Popcaan - I Know There’s Gonna Be (Good Times)
― ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:02 (eight years ago) link
psst sean could you post my ballot too
thank u
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:07 (eight years ago) link
speaking to the lex's album vs. singles concerns up thread: what constitutes a strong single in my mind is different than what constitutes a continuous album. For a single, I was condensed and overwhelming emotion that I can unleash in case of emergency; with an album i need sequencing and diversity and continuous answering of the "what's next?" question. I don't know that saying albums are more difficult/more inherently meaningful than singles is right... they're different goals. It's like comparing raising a child or starting a business; there's different levels of commitment and skills at play but they both take work and artistry. Secondarily, there's so much music out there that if I allowed overlap of my album list to my singles, I would lose the ability to look at songs that really really impacted me (hit the quan or que suenen los tambores or kime ne or landmarks for examples) without context. I love getting blindsided by an isolated song and being caught up without any sense of background or oeuvre. It's not the ONLY way I can fully embrace a single song but it's certainly one of the more exhilarating.
― ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:22 (eight years ago) link
this is all completely insane to me but fair enough
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a truck (imago), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link
There is a simple solution to this:
1. list your top X songs that impacted you in isolation; BOOM there is your tracks ballot2. list your top x albums that impacted you as discrete musical units; BOOM there is your albums ballot3. if there's any overlap, shrug and send that shit in anyway
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:28 (eight years ago) link
like, limiting myself to one slot per artist per ballot felt like an onerous sacrifice, limiting myself to one slot per artist in total would have been completely unthinkable
i don't need voting purity to appreciate individual songs more but then our listening habits are possibly very different
i just vote for my favourite tracks and my favourite albums. i dispute lex's claim that this approach produces similar results in the two polls any more than keeping the two separate would, at least assuming we have diverse tastes
it is possible to both listen to albums as albums and also pick out individual songs and listen to them as songs
dan otm basically
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a truck (imago), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link
my ballot:
U.S. Girls - Sororal FeelingsOf Montreal - Empyrean AbbattoirOneohtrix Point Never - Sticky DramaDavid Bowie - BlackstarDeath Grips - Why a Bitch Gotta LieAphex Twin - diskhat1Grimes - Realiti (Demo)Destroyer - Times SquareKendrick Lamar - Wesley’s TheoryLana Del Rey - Terrance Loves YouBeck - DreamsChelsea Wolfe - Carrion Flowers
I always just kind of throw something together in 5 minutes and as usual looking back on my ballot realize that some weird choices were made. I stand by my top 4 though.
― silverfish, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link
I had 4 Kendrick songs on my tracks ballot because I listened to them a ton independently of the album; I ranked them in the order of frequency that I listened to them. There was no way any of them were not going to be on my ballot; in fact, if I was doing it over I would probably put a few more Kendrick songs on it because I spent a lot of time popping into that album in random spots and grooving on isolated songs, almost as much as I did playing it front to back. (Aside from possibly the Marriages album, nothing else I listened to this past year came close to receiving the same number of spins.) Dumping those tracks in the name of showing off my breadth and diversity of taste would not be a true representation of the music I spent the last year digging and it always baffles me when I see people chime in during the tracks rollout with "oh I love this song, heard it so many times, played it constantly, I took it off my ballot so I could include this K-pop song I found out about last week"
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link
I also stand by your top 4 xp
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a truck (imago), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link
I almost don't listen to tracks outside of the context of an album so the point is kinda moot as far as I'm concerned, my favorite tracks are most likely on my favorite albums (also I didn't nominate any of my favorite tracks anyway, as I needed the noms for my albums, so I ended up voting for what others had nominated, which obviously is not going to be very representative of my own favs)
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link
Bold = didn't place; * = I was the only voter
Carly Rae Jepsen - Run Away With MeMiguel - CoffeeDonnie Trumpet and the Social Experiment - Sunday CandySevyn Streeter - 4th StreetBjork - Stonemilker*The Mountain Goats - Heel Turn 2*Dar Williams - FM RadioSt. Vincent - Teenage TalkPrince - BaltimoreBrandi Carlile - Murder in the CityChvrches - The Clearest BlueFor Esme - Just YetBelle and Sebastian - Nobody's EmpireRichard Thompson - She Never Could Resist a Winding RoadCourtney Barnett - Pedestrian at Best*FIDLAR - 40oz on RepeatKendrick Lamar - King KuntaJazmine Sullivan - MascaraSleater Kinney - A New Wave*G.L.O.S.S. - Outcast StompJustin Bieber - What Do You Mean?Jeremih ft. J Cole - Planes *Beach Slang - Bad Art and Weirdo Ideas*Kerbivore - Opportunity CostsDead Sara - Something Good
― pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link
I just don't consume music as albums any more, but I like plenty of album tracks, my solution is just not to vote in the albums poll at all as I feel unqualified to have an overview of the year.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 22 January 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, January 22, 2016 4:28 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this might get to the heart of it because that's not a simple solution! putting tracks in numerical order stops making sense to me after about three or four; thereafter i feel i'm comparing so many different things as to make it nonsensical. "big pop hit that sounded amazing at parties" vs "country ballad me and my bf both loved" vs "10 min dance instrumental that is compositionally incomparable to a pop song but that i loved for different reasons" vs "summer jam" vs "winter headphones song", it feels arbitrary
so excising album artists from my tracks ballot is not being dishonest or pretentious any more than any reason for cutting any other song is, more convenient and a way to make the exercise more fun/less predictable for myself
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link
with that approach though lex you're effectively ruling out the artists who made the best albums from the tracks poll
...which feels counter-intuitive. for, let's say, dawn richard not to have representation in the tracks 77 feels plain wrong, in fact
― sounding like a silly Iain Banks on a truck (imago), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:55 (eight years ago) link
I had no overlap w/ my singles and albums lists. Album tracks didn't really function as good singles for me this year
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link
the only dawn tracks i considered voting for were "james dean" and "dance" bc they weren't on the album. my votes for all her amazing tracks were contained in my vote for her amazing album
tbh in terms of listening i usually end up listening in ep-length chunks? i mean listening to An Album All The Way Through is great and all if it merits it, but one's listening time doesn't always come in album-length sizes
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link
how i do my ballot:
Whack the whole list into ExcelGo down the list, putting a cross in the right hand column of every song I know or recogniseSort these into known/not knownGo through these and give each mark out of 9: 9 being undroppable, 1 being... well I don't bother with those.I end up with a longest of tracks ranked between 9 and 6, which I then attempt to rank in order. I think about it in these turns: Would I rather hear the track after this one on the list, or this one.Bit of chopping and changing and I'm done.
That's probably more or less what everyone does.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 22 January 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link
also my albums was kind of boring and it seemed depressing to cut away their best parts
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link
I like the Kendrick album and I voted for it, but King Kunta is the clear standout that I was putting on playlists for myself and others over the year.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, January 22, 2016 11:28 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes this is what i did
i appreciate others' push for diversity in their lists to give support to the widest range of artists possible but i also want to be honest about what i actually listened to/dug the most, that said there were a few last minute discoveries i had from the nominations list that i snuck in and maybe in a week or two will regret but who cares really
― marcos, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link
(Xp to lex re: rasheeda , lol thanks, good looking out)
― Peaking Lights covers One More Time (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:13 (eight years ago) link
I basically just copied the list I'd posted on my blog a month previously, however much amendment it could have used. Weighted:
Björk - History of TouchesSusanne Sundfør - Fade AwayGirlpool - ChinatownYoung Guv - Kelly, I’m Not A CreepJazmine Sullivan - Let It BurnDonnie Trumpet & The Social Experiment - Sunday CandyKendrick Lamar - King KuntaChromatics - Just Like YouJenny Hval - SabbathWaxahatchee - La LooseHop Along - Powerful ManColleen Green - Wild OneDawn Richard - Swim FreeTinashe - Dreams Are RealBeach House - PPPEvans The Death - Expect DelaysFetty Wap - AgainThe Radio Dept. - This Repeated SodomyMiguel - WavesJanet Jackson - Night
― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:15 (eight years ago) link
Field Music – The Noisy Days Are Over (519, sole voter)
Yeah! I'll be considering this one for 2016. Field Music great as ever.
― Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link
lex / dan / lj: you're presenting it like it's a problem that I haven't solved. I'm perfectly happy with my methodology; it just doesn't jibe with the way you do it, which is fine.important again as always imo to suggest that we maybe not take ourselves too seriously when discussing the intricacies of tabulating deep meaningful opinions from 130 or so music nerds. I mean _I'm_ listening of course, and the conversation is certainly worthwhile but suggesting there's a platonic "right way" to do it or to bemoan the lack of inclusion of an artist that we're all listening to already in our slambook is where you start to lose me.
― ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:19 (eight years ago) link
Dumping those tracks in the name of showing off my breadth and diversity of taste would not be a true representation of the music I spent the last year digging and it always baffles me when I see people chime in during the tracks rollout with "oh I love this song, heard it so many times, played it constantly, I took it off my ballot so I could include this K-pop song I found out about last week"
― ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:23 (eight years ago) link
do people have diverse lists to 'give support to the widest range of artists possible' (sorry to single out this quote, no better way to put it i think) or just because they just like diversity, seems like the latter?
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:27 (eight years ago) link
each props up the other i suppose?
― ulysses, Friday, 22 January 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link
i guess you could think about it that way, maybe i'll give it a try
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Friday, 22 January 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link